.Guy. Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Our existence has no inherent meaning, and there are no gods to supply our existence with meaning. Each of us must determine the purpose and meaning of his own life. Agree/disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 disagree, what if I decide my purpose is the be the last person standing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Agree. But that's just me, personally. ---------- Post added February-9th-2011 at 09:33 PM ---------- disagree, what if I decide my purpose is the be the last person standing Well, that's your right. But the decisions of others have put laws in place, created by government and enforced by police. So you wouldn't get far. You're taking it to the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Agree. But that's just me, personally. ---------- Post added February-9th-2011 at 09:33 PM ---------- Well, that's your right. But the decisions of others have put laws in place, created by government and enforced by police. So you wouldn't get far. You're taking it to the extreme. You gravely underestimate the means One can legally kill millions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I thought this thread was going to be you telling everyone you have an STD... :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 You gravely underestimate the meansOne can legally kill millions Interesting. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Interesting. How so? The men who do the most damage do not do so with their hands For instance I could choose of life of politics, rising in power all the while working to enact law and repeal laws that protect people as more and more power comes and more connections are made situations can be manufactured to start wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 The men who do the most damage do not do so with their hands For instance I could choose of life of politics, rising in power all the while working to enact law and repeal laws that protect people as more and more power comes and more connections are made situations can be manufactured to start wars From an objective standpoint, I'd hardly say Hitler had the legal right to abuse the world as he did... One can actually kill millions with their hand(s), just depends on if you are willing to consider the said organisms "alive" haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 From an objective standpoint, I'd hardly say Hitler had the legal right to abuse the world as he did...One can actually kill millions with their hand(s), just depends on if you are willing to consider the said organisms "alive" haha. Hitler never leaves Germany who care the man was hailed by many and the people in Germany by and large were happy to do his bidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Guy. Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Hitler never leaves Germany who care the man was hailed by many and the people in Germany by and large were happy to do his bidding I am sort of confused by what you are saying so please confirm Basically what you are trying to say is that without god giving peoples lives meaning there would be nothing to stop them from killing other people? And you are using Hitler as an example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I would tend to agree with the lack of inherent meaning, but the EOG question I am undecided. Sartre claimed in 'Existentialism and Human Emotions' that the EOG isn't even really the central question.... even people who accept the EOG still suffer from anguish over making choices where their belief system offers no clear guidance. He gave a few examples. ---------- Post added February-9th-2011 at 10:15 PM ---------- OTOH, the scientist side of me says that human behavior is largely driven by natural forces, so our choices aren't really ours but are the result of biology and environment. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I am sort of confused by what you are saying so please confirmBasically what you are trying to say is that without god giving peoples lives meaning there would be nothing to stop them from killing other people? And you are using Hitler as an example of this. No I was mentioning Hitler in reposnse to someone already mentioning. I am saying for me knowing I will answe for my actions and not being the ultimate authority keeps me in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Agree/disagree? Oh joy another "there is no god but me" thread. BTW.....disagree strongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Our existence has no inherent meaning If human life has no inherent meaning, would that mean that it also has no inherent value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Agree/disagree? I disagree. I've never bought into hedonism or meaninglessness. I think there is purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I disagree. I've never bought into hedonism or meaninglessness. I think there is purpose. Here too. I believe there is always purpose, and I also believe that we will rarely understand that purpose fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I've always thought the purpose was rather simple. Leave the world better than you found it. I figure man's ultimate goal is to recreate Eden or paradice on Earth. Most days, I can't figure out if we're moving backwards or forwards in pursuit of that goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I've always thought the purpose was rather simple. Leave the world better than you found it. I figure man's ultimate goal is to recreate Eden or paradice on Earth. Most days, I can't figure out if we're moving backwards or forwards in pursuit of that goal. I dont think we have the ability to grasp divine purpose because we are not divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I dont think we have the ability to grasp divine purpose because we are not divine. Who you talking about? :halo: Frankly, I think we are all divine... except for Bette Midler. I suspect the Divine Miss M is sort of like Little John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I dont think we have the ability to grasp divine purpose because we are not divine. What about when the Divine reveals the divine purpose to us? ---------- Post added February-10th-2011 at 09:40 AM ---------- If human life has no inherent meaning, would that mean that it also has no inherent value? And the net result of that idea is wholly dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 What about when the Divine reveals the divine purpose to us?QUOTE] They will have to use layman's terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 If human life has no inherent meaning, would that mean that it also has no inherent value? If you consider us, as humans, to merely be highly evolved creatures, who happen to be bipeds, have opposable thumbs, and higher brain function, then no, I guess not. Do Elk look at each other and wonder if their lives have meaning or value? Of course not, because they don't have the capacity to do so. The only reason why we ask these deeper questions, and always have, and furthermore, come up with explanations, is because we have the capacity to do so. If other animals had brains that function as ours do, they would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 If you consider us, as humans, to merely be highly evolved creatures, who happen to be bipeds, have opposable thumbs, and higher brain function, then no, I guess not. Do Elk look at each other and wonder if their lives have meaning or value? Of course not, because they don't have the capacity to do so. The only reason why we ask these deeper questions, and always have, and furthermore, come up with explanations, is because we have the capacity to do so. If other animals had brains that function as ours do, they would do the same. Answer me this...why did you use elk in your rhetorical question? If you can answer that, the other answers fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweedr01 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I thought this thread was going to be you telling everyone you have an STD... :paranoid: lol, is that how your STD thread started? ---------- Post added February-10th-2011 at 02:45 PM ---------- From an objective standpoint, I'd hardly say Hitler had the legal right to abuse the world as he did...One can actually kill millions with their hand(s), just depends on if you are willing to consider the said organisms "alive" haha. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, thanks for that guy ---------- Post added February-10th-2011 at 02:47 PM ---------- Oh joy another "there is no god but me" thread.BTW.....disagree strongly. we don't agree on a lot, but we do here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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