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Arsenic

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hahahahahaha

People used to think the world was flat. When told otherwise, their reply was likely similar to yours.

What would it take for you people to believe this?

Must you hear it on Fox 5 to make it true?

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Spec, this also has much to do with making life less self-sustainable (for profit, as you mentioned).

We will soon no longer be able to "live off the grid". Everyday people will soon no longer be able to afford to farm.

There is already a patent pending for "aluminum-resistant seeds"..

"If you control the food, you control the people"

Aluminum (poison) in our Air. (A Proven FACT)

Fluoride (poison) in our Water. (A Proven FACT)

Excitotoxins (poison) in our Food. (A Proven FACT)

It's obvious, to me, where this is all heading. I cannot hate your inability to see. It's not your fault.

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I tend to have an open mind concerning certain topics, mainly relating to the paranormal, but I don't take much stock in the whole " poison the air/water supply" depopulation theories/issues/whatever. I mean wouldn't the same people who are poisoning us be poisoning themselves? Do they wear gas masks? Do they take special wonderpills that make them immune to it?

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I tend to have an open mind concerning certain topics, mainly relating to the paranormal, but I don't take much stock in the whole " poison the air/water supply" depopulation theories/issues/whatever. I mean wouldn't the same people who are poisoning us be poisoning themselves? Do they wear gas masks? Do they take special wonderpills that make them immune to it?

Actually, yes! The effects that these toxic metals present to our brain can be prevented with certain vitamins.

Everyday people cannot afford to eat organic foods & take multiple vitamins, in order to sustain proper brain function. So, in a sense, a healthy brain can be bought.

As for the water, there are costly ways to prevent toxins as well.

It almost seems as if the future of taxation consists of hurting everyone and allowing those who can afford it to buy there way out of a problem. Then again, this isn't a new theory, is it?

:ols::ols::ols:

People STILL believe that chemtail BS? LOL

Wow.

Sorry....I'm not laughing at you Arsenic-....no wait, yes I am :)

Of all the conspiracies there are, why in the world did you pick the one that is by far the easiest to debunk?

No offense taken.. As mentioned, I completely understand why people are unable to see some harsh facts of current life.

Please, by all means, feel free to debunk.. After all, that is the point of this conversation.

However, please be willing to consider the facts presented on the opposite side of the argument as well.

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Interesting read:

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Victoria Hardy

March 3, 2007

The last couple days in North Carolina have been beautiful, warm enough to sit in the sun with only a t-shirt and watch the birds prepare for spring. I love nature, there is nothing like the smell of dirt as the ground begins thawing after a long winter or the excitement of seeing seedlings poke their heads out of the ground for the first time; I guess part of me is still the kid that likes to dig in the dirt. I also believe that spending time in nature is a great way to connect with God and the flow of life and creativity that exists on the earth. Although my joy this year has been hampered by the sight of the planes overhead littering the skies with ropey trails and the accompanying sense of confusion and dismay that other people don’t see them, don’t care or don’t know.

Yes I’m talking about chemtrails, I've written a few other articles about them, which have received minimal attention, but still I persist. (1) (2) (3) Since I haven’t come to any conclusions in my own mind and thoughts of chemtrails send me into metaphysical theory, I’ve reached out to others in the very small field of study. Dr. Stephen D. McKay recently sent me an email and shared the news that he has been contacted by the BBC and Channel 4 in the U.K. to work on two documentaries about weather modification and geo-engineering projects, including the chemtrail issue. And yesterday I received his findings after six years of research into the subject.

Dr. McKay (photos)believes there are four ongoing projects in our atmosphere, “The first project is an effort to block the rays of the sun from hitting the earth including the ultra violet radiation that will come through without an adequate layer of ozone in the upper regions above the earth. This, it is hoped, will lower temperature on the surface of the earth and block ultra violet radiation from causing skin cancer in humans. The aerosol is probably aluminum oxide or a compound that would have similar properties.”

“The second and most secretive project is the United States Navy's, RFMP, Radio Frequency Mission Planner, military program. The RFMP is the system name given to a group of computer programs and one of the supporting, subprograms within the RFMP system is called the VTRPE computer program. VTRPE is an acronym that stands for Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation, It is a computer Radio Frequency propagation program that deals with radio waves and enables the RFMP system to visually see the battlefield terrain in 3 dimensions (3-D) on a television screen. The RFMP system also depends on satellites to feed their images of the battlefield into the RFMP system to be combined with the battlefield picture painted from the ground thus producing 3-D images.”

”By providing an extremely interactive and visual (television type radar screens) environment, the Radio Frequency Mission Planner, RFMP system allows the computer operator to develop familiarity with the "Radio Frequency" environment before a battlefield war mission occurs by playing a variety of "what-if" virtual warfare scenarios on his computer screen. Since all major modes of Radio Frequency propagation are modeled in his computer, (RFMP system), special, sometimes counter- intuitive, cases can be examined in detail and exploited during a warfare battle mission.”

”The VTRPE computer program only worked accurately over water and along coastal areas but not over land masses because the system's radar waves required an atmospheric condition known as "ducting", over land, to operate accurately.”

”The government and military solved the "ducting" problem by releasing an aerosol, a mixture of barium salts into the atmosphere over America. They made an atmospheric RF duct with a base of barium aerosol from aircraft. The chemical and electrical characteristics of the mixture will cause water moisture to stay in clouds. Again, the aerosol sets up an electrical and chemical environment that supports RF ducting for the RFMP / VTRPE warfare system. Fibers with barium may support ducting. The mixture of barium salt aerosol when sprayed in a straight line will also provide a ducting path from point A to point B and will enable high frequency communications along that path, even over the curvature of the earth, in both directions. Enemy high frequency communications can be monitored easier with the straight line A to B ducting medium.”

”The third project also utilizes the mixture of barium salts in the atmosphere. Weather control is a project of the U.S. Air Force and utilizes Nikola Tesla concepts of radio frequency radiation (HAARP) against the ionosphere above the earth. Fragile life support systems in our environment are being manipulated, tested and altered by government for military advantage. Air Force documents implied, "the risks are high but the rewards are worth it." The mixture of barium salts, supporting moisture, is encouraged along the weather fronts and manipulated in a control fashion. It is believed microwave energy is also utilized in the weather control program. Weather data is also a required input to the VTRPE program of the RFMP system. Perfected weather control technology will enable a military to withhold rain, cause floods, cause drought, cause storms, withhold sunshine, damage food crops, and bring any country to its knees without firing a shot.”

”The fourth project in the atmosphere is the DARPA, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, biological detection and decontamination programs. The program also utilizes the mixture of barium salts as the base vehicle in aerosol along with special polymer fibers in the atmosphere. They have released biological into the atmosphere in trials, testing the detection and decontamination systems.”

”It is believed that barium salt, polymer fibers and other chemicals, in the atmosphere are the physical irritants that are either directly or indirectly responsible, for the recent epidemic increase in cases of nose bleed, asthma, allergies, pneumonia, upper respiratory symptoms and a noticeable increase in arthritis symptoms, recently reported nationwide. Chemicals illegally sprayed into the atmosphere are producing atmospheric and ground conditions detrimental to human and animal health but favorable to the growth of harmful molds and fungus. These conditions are not conducive to good health. The soluble salts of barium, an earth metal, are toxic in mammalian systems. They are absorbed rapidly from the gastrointestinal tract and are deposited in the muscles, lungs, and bone. No case data is available from the medical community on the long term effects of barium in the human body.”

”The programs are secret because the Federal EPA and State Environmental Quality Agencies need to "not know" about what the by-products of the metabolites of biological, illegal and harmful agents are. It's for that reason the project has been declared secret from the citizens of the countries.”

So, now we know and it is as much as we suspected, so I guess the question becomes, what next? As I enjoyed the fine southern weather the last couple days and watched planes, sometimes five at a time, leave their trails across the sky, I heard we were expecting a terribly violent storm and I wondered, why doesn’t everyone see the pattern?

And again the door to my philosophical brain springs open with a thousand questions and few answers, I’ve heard many express that seeing the chemtrails was life-changing, most remember the date as one would a traumatic experience, but I know that life-changing experiences only make us stronger. I’ve heard others express the idea that becoming aware of the activity overhead felt like they had been called, or chosen, for a greater purpose, similar to the characters in the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But most just speak of fear, death and disease raining from the clouds and I am suggesting that if this a nefarious plot by the global elitist to harm humanity, then fear is exactly how they would expect us to feel and it is our duty to rise above that emotion.

Much thanks to Dr. McKay for sharing his time and his findings.

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However, please be willing to consider the facts presented on the opposite side of the argument as well.

Ahh

Problem #1

There are NO facts on the opposite side. Sorry...

As far as debunking, no thanks. Not that I can't. As stated previously this is by far the easiest conspiracy to debunk, and as a meteorologist this would be fun. But it would be pointless. I've argued about this many times before and really it's just dumb. I'm not going to waste my time. Just google 'chemtails debunked' or something and have at it. Plus, you're not going to change you're mind anyway, so...please don't even pretend you're open to it.

I do have a quick question though. It seems a lot of people who believe this stuff have no scientific background. Perhaps you're different.

So...I know weather. I know rain and snow have to be a certain size and weight to be able to fall. With these chemicals, which are sprayed several more miles up and supposedly in a controlled fashion..how heavy are they and what exactly are they comprised of that they are able to both affect life and yet remain undetectable with our senses, all the while falling in or affecting designated areas?

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Ahh

Problem #1

There are NO facts on the opposite side. Sorry...

As far as debunking, no thanks. Not that I can't. As stated previously this is by far the easiest conspiracy to debunk, and as a meteorologist this would be fun. But it would be pointless. I've argued about this many times before and really it's just dumb. I'm not going to waste my time. Just google 'chemtails debunked' or something and have at it. Plus, you're not going to change you're mind anyway, so...please don't even pretend you're open to it.

I do have a quick question though. It seems a lot of people who believe this stuff have no scientific background. Perhaps you're different.

So...I know weather. I know rain and snow have to be a certain size and weight to be able to fall. With these chemicals, which are sprayed several more miles up and supposedly in a controlled fashion..how heavy are they and what exactly are they comprised of that they are able to both affect life and yet remain undetectable with our senses, all the while falling in or affecting designated areas?

:) Finally!

I'm definitely able to change my mind. If I'm open-minded enough to consider such craziness, then I'm also capable of writing this off as a lost cause.

In the video posted in the OP, biologists studying soil samples found Aluminum, Barium and other elements thousands of times higher than normal limits. "These shocking results led to additional testing of Lake Shasta with samples from the Pit River arm tributary that tested over 4,610 times the maximum contamination level of aluminum allowed in drinking water in the state of California. Also, peer reviewed scientific studies conclude that bio-available aluminum, now found in huge quantities in rain world-wide, is very harmful to flora and thus the eco-system. Ironically, these are the same substances the scientists are considering implementing in the various potential “future” aerosol spraying campaigns that were being discussed.."

As a meteorologist, there a few few points early in the film that might interest you. Other meteorologists are shown to be perplexed with some showings on their radars that don't add up. One meteorologist is even shown admitting that the green spots on the radar weren't weather related, talking of his ex-military experience and knowledge of sprayings.

Check it out.. I'm interested to see what you think.

I don't necessarily think this is "New World Order" type stuff.. I've read so many different possible reasons for such a plan to be carried out, from preventing bio-warfare, to controlling UV issues, etc.. It's definitely understandable why they'd want to keep something like this under the radar.

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You might also enjoy this read:

http://www.ligh****cher.com/chemtrails/smoking_gun.html

It's from 2003. Interesting, nonetheless.

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Finally!

You do realize that none of that actually answered his question, right? The problem with theories like this, and the theorists that propose them, is that while skepticism of the government is healthy, it's rare that the same skepticism is turned on the alternate theory, which generally has so many holes that if the government proposed it, the very same people wouldn't believe it for a second.

Baaa(h).

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I understand that you have been brain washed. The human brain is the most lethal weapon on this planet. Because of this, the amount of brain function that we use is closely monitored and manipulated thru our air, food & water.

I think theories like this, and those who believe them (and then act like pompous asses because they believe that they are "in the know" and pity those who aren't) are so ****ing stupid, that this is my new sig.

So that anyone who is curious enough to check out why you made this statement, will be lead back here, and can continue to argue how insanely foolish being swayed to believe such grand conspiracies really is.

Carry on, now. This really wasn't a rant about you, but the topic. So don't be offended (But I know you won't...because you'll say that its not my fault that I don't have the capacity to believe this) :)

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I think theories like this, and those who believe them (and then act like pompous asses because they believe that they are "in the know" and pity those who aren't) are so ****ing stupid, that this is my new sig.

So that anyone who is curious enough to check out why you made this statement, will be lead back here, and can continue to argue how insanely foolish being swayed to believe such grand conspiracies really is.

Carry on, now. This really wasn't a rant about you, but the topic. So don't be offended (But I know you won't...because you'll say that its not my fault that I don't have the capacity to believe this) :)

hahaha. I'm honored to occupy your sig.

but we both know your true intentions here.. ;)

I dont understand what makes this so unbelievable. You have official geo-engineering reports that say the govt is studying the effects of using aluminum in the air, just incase of emergency climate issues. You have planes leaving lines across the horizon which look completely different from normal contrails.. Those lines slowly fade into clouds which cover the sky, differently from normal contrails. People have studied substances that fall from these clouds, onto the ground, into water etc., all of which contains the exact substances which are being studied for geo-engineering use.

wtf? :whoknows:

Why are you so afraid to admit that this is possible?

What would it take for you to believe this is possibly happening?

I don't feel "in the know".. or better than anyone. I simply found this very interesting, given the information provided in the video found in my OP (which you didn't bother to watch). Everyone is so busy hating to consider what I'm saying.

When this eventually comes out, be fully prepared to eat crow. Oh & I'll expect the rights to your sig for a full year, since you're so sure that I'm crazy.

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It is DDT. The government commissioned the fact-less book on it in the 60's to brainwash the Amerikkkan public then used it as scientific fact to pass a law banning DDT. What we all failed to realize is the clause deep in the 4 page bill that says the Federal Government can still use it if deemed necessary.

Pg. 3 Section IV Article Q

"In the course of human events when it becomes necessary we, the Federal Government, reserve the right to use DioDoxyhydroruphenoTol (DDT) as a means of controlling the public when pushing our National Solcialistic Liberal Communistic Agenda."

We cannot stand for this any longer.

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As I drove down my street last night coming home from work, the skies were filled with trails. I've never seen so many. In fact, they were still being made. Crazy. Did anyone else in the Silver Spring-Burtonsville area notice this? Just about dark at around 6pm.

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I can't even tell when people are serious anymore.. :(

Chach, this happens often.. It's rare to see no "Geo-Engineering" activity. The more you pay attention, the more you realize just how prevalent these artificial clouds are.

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I honestly wasn't expecting to get laughed at so badly.. In hindsight, however, I should have known this was coming.

I totally understand what makes this hard to believe.. However, it really isnt that far fetched. Every day more and more evidence is being compiled. Eventually, they'll come out & admit that they've been saving the planet and were afraid to admit to us just how bad the climate had become.

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As I drove down my street last night coming home from work, the skies were filled with trails. I've never seen so many. In fact, they were still being made. Crazy. Did anyone else in the Silver Spring-Burtonsville area notice this? Just about dark at around 6pm.

What?! A lot of people travelling by plane just before Christmas? Unpossible.

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Also on the ligh****cher.com site....

U.S. military is liaising with extraterrestrial life according to independent sources

source: by Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner / Michael Salla, Ph.D / December 28, 2009

I can't even tell when people are serious anymore.. :(

Chach, this happens often.. It's rare to see no "Geo-Engineering" activity. The more you pay attention, the more you realize just how prevalent these artificial clouds are.

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I honestly wasn't expecting to get laughed at so badly.. In hindsight, however, I should have known this was coming.

I totally understand what makes this hard to believe.. However, it really isnt that far fetched. Every day more and more evidence is being compiled. Eventually, they'll come out & admit that they've been saving the planet and were afraid to admit to us just how bad the climate had become.

So lets be clear. You believe all of these aircraft are dumping chemicals into the atmosphere. Literally thousands of aircraft that require hundreds of people each for maintenance and daily operation and no one involved knows about it? No one speaks out? Where's Wikileaks when you need them? :ols:

Dude. You are reading bull**** written by morons. Oh and BTW... Who is Victoria Hardy ?(the author of the article you quoted in post 36)...

http://turtlesvoice.blogspot.com/

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The Turtle's Voice is Victoria H., a writer, artist and drummer attempting to make sense of the world.
:ols:

Now *THERE* is a source that inspires confidence. :rolleyes:

Seriously dude. Put down the bong and go back to school.

---------- Post added December-22nd-2010 at 04:47 PM ----------

Silly Sheeple

:P

Ah, the final argument of conspiracy theorists. Anyone with enough sense to recognise their bull**** for what it is are "Sheeple".

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