Hersh Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) They are easier to find, I just feel the Wizards haven't really tried to find good shooters for some reason or have had bad luck. I mean other than Mason, who have we really added with a consistent jumper? Lewis never had his heart in it for us, Crawford was always inconsistent, Mack never really had a consistent 3 point shot, Wall we all know about, Mike Miller had one for us for a little bit, and Martin and Almond are cast offs that can't really be counted on for huge minutes. This draft is susposed to be deep in the SG area with plenty of guys who can shoot like John Jenkins, Doron Lamb, Buford, O. Johnson, and Kim English. Find one in the 2nd or grab one in FA if you can. Like I said earlier, I'm not arguing against T-Rob and I think the Wiz would have a real strong PF/C rotation if they drafted him. What if T-Rob is off the board? I'm not super high on MKG at this point. Edited June 11, 2012 by Hersh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/06/11/cavaliers.offered.4.24.33.and.34.picks.hornets.first.overall?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Cavaliers offered #4, #24, #33 and #34 picks to the Hornets for the first overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Like I said earlier, I'm not arguing against T-Rob and I think the Wiz would have a real strong PF/C rotation if they drafted him. What if T-Rob is off the board? I'm not super high on MKG at this point. Well if T-Rob is off the board, it's Beal for me but he isn't too popular around here. My board has been T-Rob, Beal, then a bit further down is MKG, Barnes, then Drummond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 You know what I think MKG might be? MKG is a guy you have to give a max deal to but you can't really win a championship with. That make sense? Like a Rudy Gay or an Iguodala. A nice player but you just aren't going to get over the hump with him as THE guy. ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 05:05 PM ---------- Joe Johnson ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 05:06 PM ---------- Ok, I'm officially Drummond and then Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 You know what I think MKG might be? MKG is a guy you have to give a max deal to but you can't really win a championship with. That make sense? Like a Rudy Gay or an Iguodala. A nice player but you just aren't going to get over the hump with him as THE guy.---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 05:05 PM ---------- Joe Johnson ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 05:06 PM ---------- Ok, I'm officially Drummond and then Robinson. Actually, I think MKG maxes out at a poor man's Gerald Wallace. And yeah, I'm completely on the Drummond/TRob bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Ok, I'm officially Drummond and then Robinson. I am the other way around, but would be fine with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Anyone know how big Drummond's hands are? Sorry, I've just been obsessed with that ever since Kwame. They measure that at the combine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/06/11/cavaliers.offered.4.24.33.and.34.picks.hornets.first.overall?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter That was met with a resounding no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Actually, I think MKG maxes out at a poor man's Gerald Wallace.. I'm not really comparing MKG's game to Gay's, Iguodala's or Johnson's. Just what his presence means to a franchise. ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 05:29 PM ---------- And regardless of what any of us want, I think the pick will be Robinson. This franchise has LOOOONG had a hard on for local guys. Don't see that changing under Ted. ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 05:36 PM ---------- BTW, draftexpress.com has really taken it to the next level this year. nbadraft.net should never be mentioned again. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 seems like most of us have settled on the rest of the top four as TRob, Drummond, and MKG. I think that's pretty firm. Seems like most of us have a preference of one of those three, but that we'd be pretty happy with multiple directions. That's where I'm at too. I think we'll get good value out of either MKG, Drummond, or TRob. Drummond is the unquestioned upside pick. He's just so enormous and athletically gifted. He's appealing. TRob is the easy fit that makes a lot of sense because of his position, local connection, and upside. But I actually think MKG is the best player right now. Interesting that he's the youngest player in the class. His upside is pretty high too. I think the thing with MKG is that you're not going to like his game just off of clips and numbers. He doesn't show up like that. It's within the context and flow of a season that you'll fall in love with him as a prospect. The further we get from the season, the more we'll forget how special he is. The kid is just a born winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaticSkinsFan Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I think most people have one leg shorter than the other. It's just how much is what matters. A good chiropractor once a week would take care of that. My right leg is longer than my left. I go to get an adjustment once a month. I don't think it's that big of a concern unless he starts to have back problems. A good pair of insoles or something to even it out wouldn't even be noticed. idk, im just leery since Greg Oden had one leg longer than the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 In short, MKG is so much more than the sum of his parts. He probably deserves to go second overall, but I think Drummond will probably go second overall. ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 06:49 PM ---------- Sports are about heart when you get down to it. A career is a marathon. Heart is what separates the good from the great. That's why I think MKG is going to be a special player. Does he fit here though? If you draft him you've GOT to go out and find some shooters some other way or else Wall is going to go insane. I don't like Terrence Ross at ten, but just outside the lottery around 15-20? Sign me up. Those picks are often pretty cheap too. Lots of teams put them up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) I'm still: 1. Beal 2. TRob 3. Drummond 4. MKG I'll be somewhat disappointed if we come away without Beal or TRob. After those two, I'm not really in love with any candidate so I would swing for the fences with Drummond and prepare to be disappointed with the end results. Edited June 11, 2012 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaticSkinsFan Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I'm still:1. Beal 2. TRob 3. Drummond 4. MKG I'll be somewhat disappointed if we come away without Beal or TRob. After those two, I'm not really in love with any candidate so I would swing for the fences with Drummond and prepare to be disappointed with the end results. the more I think of it, the more I want Drummond. I think having Nene here will help him a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 the more I think of it, the more I want Drummond. I think having Nene here will help him a lot. If our front office had a better, or any, record of developing big men, I'd be much more receptive to the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaticSkinsFan Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) If our front office had a better, or any, record of developing big men, I'd be much more receptive to the idea. yeah, Im with you on this usually. But I think Blatche and McGee could have been helped by having a veteran big man to learn from. Nene is a true professional, and I wouldnt have an issue with Drummond watching him play and trying to beat him for a starting spot. Edited June 12, 2012 by AsiaticSkinsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If our front office had a better, or any, record of developing big men, I'd be much more receptive to the idea. This is what scares me too. It's sounding like all of us appreciate how special Drummond is. But I also know that to a man, we are all extremely pessimistic about this front office's ability to develop raw talent. Can't help the feeling that we'd waste Drummond. I'm kind of hoping he goes second so we don't even have to deal with it. ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 08:34 PM ---------- It's almost like you have to take Drummond if he's there at three though. If you don't and he works out like he has the potential to, that is a pick that will haunt the franchise forever. He could change the course of a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 yeah, Im with you on this usually. But I think Blatche and McGee could have been helped by having a veteran big man to learn from. Nene is a true professional, and I wouldnt have an issue with Drummond watching him play and trying to beat him for a starting spot. Having Seraphin there to push him would help too. It's pretty obvious that Seraphin is a worker. Problem with Blatche and Javale was that they (and NY) just pushed each other to be more clownish. It's basically like this: For Robinson, his natural skill and athletic ability is his limit. For Drummond, his work ethic is his limit. Drummond is a huge risk but I think you have to take it. You want to take stars in the top 3. I'm not sold that Robinson can be a star. I don't think there's any question that Drummond can be. ---------- Post added June-11th-2012 at 08:50 PM ---------- Who's a similar player to Drummond, who was drafted in the same range, who busted? Not trying to make a point, just trying to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostic Hog Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [/color]BTW, draftexpress.com has really taken it to the next level this year. nbadraft.net should never be mentioned again. Seriously. Of course, I'm not a Wizards fan at all. I'm a Sixers fan. I'm not a huge NBA fan, but I catch on when the home team is in the playoffs. I looked at this website noted above, they have Austin Rivers going to the Sixers. I am now officially pumped! Someone that can shoot - holy ****, batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Who's a similar player to Drummond, who was drafted in the same range, who busted? Not trying to make a point, just trying to think. Well Kwame Brown... I think Andrew Bynum is his best comparison though, particularly from an age and physical perspective. Bynum was so young when he came into the league. But he flashed dominance even as a rookie. Drummond will need to show signs as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I don't really see the Kwame comparison but maybe that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Well Kwame Brown...I think Andrew Bynum is his best comparison though, particularly from an age and physical perspective. Bynum was so young when he came into the league. But he flashed dominance even as a rookie. Drummond will need to show signs as a rookie. Bynum had the privilege of being tutored personally by Kareem, Drummond won't get anything close to that kind of instruction here. Edited June 12, 2012 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Bynum had the privilege of being tutored personally by Kareem, Drummond won't get anything close to that kind of instruction here. You've got to get Drummond a one on one big man coach. Otherwise you're not getting the most from your investment. It doesn't have to be a big name like Kareem, just someone who is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 You've got to get Drummond a one on one big man coach. Otherwise you're not getting the most from your investment. It doesn't have to be a big name like Kareem, just someone who is good. Agreed, if the front office isn't willing to go the extra mile to make sure he has everything possible to make him successful, they might as well pick somebody else. He's a raw piece of clay, we have to mold him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 http://www.nba.com/wizards/wizards-pre-draft-workout-schedule-tuesday-june-12th WASHINGTON, DC – The Washington Wizards will conduct pre-draft workouts on Tuesday, June 12th at 11:00 am at Verizon Center. The following players are currently scheduled to participate in tomorrow’s workout Jason Clark - G - Georgetown - 6’2, 180 lbs Matt Gatens - G - Iowa - 6’5, 212 lbs Bernard James - F - Florida State - 6-10, 240 lbs Scoop Jardine - G - Syracuse - 6-2, 195 lbs Darius Miller - G - Kentucky - 6-8, 225 lbs Miles Plumlee - F - Duke - 6-10, 245 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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