Destino Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I don't think he realizes he's tipping how low his expectations for the bench are when he harps on them like that. It's not limited to the bench, he's been complaining about the starters not moving the ball too. He's right. The Wizards aren't going to be consistently good until they ditch the old school offense and keep the entire team involved and Buck knows it. He just can't call out the coach directly, so he cheers for ball movement and marvels anytime it actually happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 32 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: There are plenty. Oubre is nice, but he is far from unmoveable It really depends on how serious the team is about going further than they have I'm still thinking that he might make Otto expendable. All depends on how good he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Destino said: I'm still thinking that he might make Otto expendable. All depends on how good he gets. i'm not sure I want to deal Otto he better bring back a big fish if he does go. as much as I would like DeAndre Jordan, i'm not trading Otto for someone who can be hacked in the 4th Edited December 6, 2017 by StillUnknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 22 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: i'm not sure I want to deal Otto he better bring back a big fish if he does go. as much as I would like DeAndre Jordan, i'm not trading Otto for someone who can be hacked in the 4th I'd prefer we spent less money at center, not more by adding DJ. We do not a 30 year old max contract center that can't play in the 4th quarter. I'd rather get a good enough center. Portland got Nurkic for a song and instantly upgraded their team. We need a move like that. Something that brings us a younger center that can move his feet a play a little bit on both ends. ... and to get rid of Gortat and/or Mahinmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Long n Left Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Destino said: I'd prefer we spent less money at center, not more by adding DJ. We do not a 30 year old max contract center that can't play in the 4th quarter. I'd rather get a good enough center. Portland got Nurkic for a song and instantly upgraded their team. We need a move like that. Something that brings us a younger center that can move his feet a play a little bit on both ends. ... and to get rid of Gortat and/or Mahinmi. I wonder if the Hornets would entertain talk of moving Cody Zeller, now that Kaminsky is getting the bulk of the run there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I think I'd take Noel over Jordan. But I'm not giving up Oubre for either. I'd be willing to part with a 1st for Noel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I think I'd take Noel over Jordan. But I'm not giving up Oubre for either. I'd be willing to part with a 1st for Noel. Basically where im at. But if im trading a pick its for Boogie. We need someone to protect us from Durant after all the **** we been talking here in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 If we're going to make a move, I'd rather it be so we can get Gortat's contract off the roster. Cousins is a free agent, we shouldn't be trying to mortgage our future when we could just sign our future center in this coming offseason. But that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: If we're going to make a move, I'd rather it be so we can get Gortat's contract off the roster. Cousins is a free agent, we shouldn't be trying to mortgage our future when we could just sign our future center in this coming offseason. But that's just my opinion. Gortat's contract isnt that bad Mahinmi's the one that will stop us from doing business or including our next 3 first round picks just to get him off the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, StillUnknown said: Gortat's contract isnt that bad Mahinmi's the one that will stop us from doing business or including our next 3 first round picks just to get him off the roster Ya, but it's either you get rid of Gortat because of his decline or you get rid of both because of the size of the contracts. Think I'm more concerned about the extra year on Mahinmi's (could be having this same convo we're having with Gortat then), but they are pretty close to each other next year. Mahinmi has been playing better lately on defense, and if I had a choice between who to keep as a backup to Cousins, I don't want the turnstile. And like you said, it'll be harder to get rid of Mahinmi, I don't think that situation is as dire as it was at the start of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Have to get rid of both Gortat and Mahinmi to go after Jordan or Cousins in the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 We can't trade our pick unless it transforms this team. We desperately need youth on the bench, if only to have some athleticism that does not cost a fortune. That pick could very well be a competent inexpensive center, which would free up 10 million to spend elsewhere. It's not a likely outcome, because Ernie, but it could be. Wizards moves this season need to be with the idea that this is not our year. We have to be honest and accept that we are too far behind Boston and Cleveland to push all our chips in right now. No where near competing with Golden State. The idea has to be to position ourselves for future seasons. Try to clear some salary. Maybe tell Wall to become really good friends with Lebron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Was some talk about Okafor here.. Edited December 7, 2017 by CRobi21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 46 minutes ago, Destino said: Try to clear some salary. Maybe tell Wall to become really good friends with Lebron. You just made me throw up in my mouth a little with that. Also to your earlier point, if we give up on trying to get Cousins here, then I guess we're basically accepting NBA purgatory. Gimmie a minute while I let that sink in, because I don't like getting rid of our draft picks either, but damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 They basically paid to get rid of a young center with an offensive game. This is the Portland deal all over again. Ernie dropped the ball here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TradeTheBeal! Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'd rather have Trevor Booker than Okafor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Okafor's defense and soft rebounding are issues. He was a lottery ticket but I feel like he's pretty far from being a good rotation player. I want a DeAndre Jordan type center who is a beast on the glass and can protect the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Skin'emAlive said: They basically paid to get rid of a young center with an offensive game. This is the Portland deal all over again. Ernie dropped the ball here. He's a one-trick pony...does NOTHING other than occasionally put the ball in the hoop. Pretty much a more souped-up Lee Nailon. Unless he fixes his defensive awareness and ability to rebound, he might be closer to being a journeyman or ballin' overseas than folks may realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Building a brick house so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Going Commando Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Yikes. Pathetic defense. One good game then one bad game. Like clockwork. Can't wait until Wall gets back. Brutal shooting performance. Team-wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Kieff heating up. He's going to be aggressive tonight. I hate that move where a defender walks under a three point shooter and turns their back on them to watch the shot to pretend like they aren't doing it on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 They ain't always pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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