CBass1724 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Even if we put aside the fact that multiple mediocre NBA players on each team will receive max deal type contracts, I couldn't think of anyone else I wouldn't want on this team besides Joakim Noah. Ernie needs to go swimming at Disney if he makes this offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Also there is no chance that Noah will command a max deal in this market. There are like 5 or 6 centers ahead of him on the totem pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 Also there is no chance that Noah will command a max deal in this market. There are like 5 or 6 centers ahead of him on the totem pole. Yep. This sounds like an agent (or Noah's camp) using the media the drive up his market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBass1724 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Also there is no chance that Noah will command a max deal in this market. There are like 5 or 6 centers ahead of him on the totem pole. I hear you, but there is too much money for these owners to spend. Not saying he's worth it, but just won't be surprised when he gets it. Someone will overspend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I doubt he gets a four year deal too. Not after missing most of the last two seasons. I read that sporting news article that discusses the rumor and it was filled with nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBass1724 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'd rather have Dwight Howard on a max deal than Noah. But don't want either, really. On paper, Howard would fit in nicely. In real life, that dude is a cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I'd take Noah in a heartbeat for 3/60. Absolutely perfect guy to put on the floor with 4 shooters and run the spread. Edit: 3/70 even. And I wouldn't have Howard at any price. Edited June 24, 2016 by TryTheBeal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 That is a crazy amount of money to commit to Noah. He's 31 and coming off two injury ravaged seasons where he looked significantly diminished. He should be making like 10 million a year at the most and they should be short term deals. I'd rather have Dwight Howard on a max deal than Noah. But don't want either, really. On paper, Howard would fit in nicely. In real life, that dude is a cancer. Yeah that pretty much sums it up. But I would love to have Noah at a reasonable dollar amount. He is exactly the kind of personality I want in the locker room. Someone who lives and dies by the results of every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The economy has changed. 20 is the new 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Ernie Grunfeld doesn't have time to negotiate or wait around for players to choose a team. He'll spend what it takes on players that will sign quickly so he can get back to living his charmed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 That report makes ZERO sense. I don't buy it as far as the numbers go. Do I expect the Wizards to make an offer? Yes. Do I expect the Wizards to offer Noah a contract with an AAV around 20-30 mil? C'mon, bruh.....what the hell kind of sense does that make? Dude was a shell of his former self, and you're telling me that he's going to command a contract that would make him one of the, if not THE highest paid 5 in the league? He's a backup at this point in his career. He'd certainly help balance things out with the Wizards by coming off the bench due to how skilled he is on both ends of the floor (amazing passer/court vision for a big). But he shouldn't get a contract more than 12-14 mil per year. And that might be pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 A healthy Noah at this point would basically be what Nene was at his best for us. A big man who rebounds, passes and can give some offense. That player is not worth a max contract. Even Ernie isn't that dumb. Or is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Good news... J. Michael @JMichaelCSN 2h2 hours ago Virginia, USA Beal declines #USABasketball invite to participate in #2016Olympics #WizardsTalk @CSNWizards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Even Ernie isn't that dumb. Or is he? Every single Wizards fan is asking themselves this question right now. It is a measure of how bad things have been that none of us can be sure about it. But he shouldn't get a contract more than 12-14 mil per year. And that might be pushing it. I think his agent is the source and I think this is the reason he floated the outrageous max contract claim. 12-14 million is a pretty big stretch for Noah coming off such a disastrous season. He lost his starting job, his numbers tanked, and he missed most of the year, plus he is coming off a bunch of surgeries and he turned 31. But if you float some crazy ass max number and some dumbass reporter runs them for you and you completely blow up the expectations around his market, then maybe 12-14 million actually becomes realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 J. Michael @JMichaelCSN 1m1 minute ago The Wizards are NOT going to offer, nor have plans to, Joakim Noah a max deal, I can confirm. #WizardsTalk @CSNWizards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 J. MichaelVerified account@JMichaelCSN Ive reported Wizards want to get younger and more athletic bigs. Noah doesnt fit that #WizardsTalk @CSNWizards J. MichaelVerified account@JMichaelCSN Nene's role/minutes have been decreasing for 2 yrs. The Wizards "panicked" over his departure? Theyve expected it #WizardsTalk J. MichaelVerified account@JMichaelCSN Leonsis lauded Grunfeld for getting Markieff Morris at $7.4M. Said fiscally good moves like this reason for keeping him #WIzardsTalk J. MichaelVerified account@JMichaelCSN Going from Morris at $7.4M to Noah at $28M is the exact opposite of that. Leonsis wouldnt sign off on that anyway #WizardsTalk @CSNWizards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 J. MichaelVerified account@JMichaelCSN A league source on Wizards' supposed max deal plan for Noah -- and refuting it. "it sounds absolutely ridiculous" #WizardsTalk @CSNWizards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Noah's soul was sent to hell by Nene 3 years ago. He is just ghosting out there at this point, collecting a pension for his loved ones. No chance he is signed to Washington. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The guy who reported this destroyed his credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) The guy who reported this destroyed his credibility. I don't see how. It is apparently a league wide fact that we are more than willing to overpay. Its natural that agents will use that to their benefit as well I wish we could easily dismiss the bull**** rumors, but Grunfeld is the captain of this ship. Bull**** is his M.O. Edited June 25, 2016 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Johnny Obeid @JohnnyObeid 11m11 minutes agoLewisville, TX So much for the plan lol y'all suck at life @TedLeonsis @ErnieGrunfeld At least give us a charity meeting KD. Youre gonna hurt little Ernie and Teddys feewings... Edited June 25, 2016 by STBonecrusher21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 there would be something funny about spending 2 years making it know you are making a run at KD only to then not even get a meeting with the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Predictable result. Grunfeld doesn't have the balls and salesmanship ability to sell someone like Durant. Look at Scot McLoughan when Josh Norman became a FA. THATS who the Wizards need as a GM. It isn't just about having money or even the hometown factor. You gotta be able to sell to superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 It's even more pressure for KD to play in DC. Not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 Predictable result. Grunfeld doesn't have the balls and salesmanship ability to sell someone like Durant. Look at Scot McLoughan when Josh Norman became a FA. THATS who the Wizards need as a GM. It isn't just about having money or even the hometown factor. You gotta be able to sell to superstars. I wasn't counting on EG. I was betting on Ted.....but whatever. If KD doesn't want to give us a meeting, that's fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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