MattFancy Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I think the Rockies got the better end of the deal. IMO, it's a mistake to only consider his stats especially on this team with little run support and in this brutal division. Guthrie's stuff is underrated and his age very much overrated. I think this could be another stinker like the Hernandez deal. Just my take and I confess that I've never seen Hammel pitch one inning. I don't think its a great deal for either team IMO. Guthrie wasn't anything special here and its not like we got anywhere with him. We got 2 ok guys for 1 decent guy. I don't think it makes either team better, but don't think either team is worse because of it. Plus Guthrie gets the thin air of Coors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I don't think its a great deal for either team IMO. Guthrie wasn't anything special here and its not like we got anywhere with him. We got 2 ok guys for 1 decent guy. I don't think it makes either team better, but don't think either team is worse because of it. Plus Guthrie gets the thin air of Coors. I'm happy for Guthrie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm happy for Guthrie... I am happy for him too. But I think we got the better end of the deal by the ever so slightest of margins. It was not a great deal for either side, but I worry about Guts in Colorado and I am fairly certain that he will be pitching elsewhere in 2013 while we have the very similar Hammel for at least one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I am happy for him too. But I think we got the better end of the deal by the ever so slightest of margins. It was not a great deal for either side, but I worry about Guts in Colorado and I am fairly certain that he will be pitching elsewhere in 2013 while we have the very similar Hammel for at least one more year. Time will tell friend. I hope you're right. I did read some positive new about the Taiwanese pitcher we recently signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Time will tell friend. I hope you're right. I did read some positive new about the Taiwanese pitcher we recently signed. Yeah, the reviews on him seem to be mostly positive, so I am definitely intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Please don't sign Manny What difference would it make? We might as well sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 What difference would it make? We might as well sign him. 1) He's suspended for 50 games 2) What is he really going to bring to the team? He sucked when he played last year and has basically been out of baseball for a year 3) It just goes back to those late 90s, early 00s teams when we signed washed up vets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Anyone familiar with the term team cancer? Just say no to estrogen boy with the ***** tits and bad attitude. I have never seen any player loaf more in the outfield than Ramirez in my life. Didn't he quit on his last team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Anyone familiar with the term team cancer? Just say no to estrogen boy with the ***** tits and bad attitude. I have never seen any player loaf more in the outfield than Ramirez in my life. Didn't he quit on his last team? I think he "retired" last year because of the suspension. But I agree with pretty much everything you said. I don't want him. I know this team is probably going to suck, and adding him probably will not make that much better. It would make things more interesting, but probably in a bad way. He tends to loaf around anyways, and I can't imagine how bad that would become if he were on a really bad team. Which we certainly have the potential to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I don't expect Guthrie to be good in Col. Fly Ball pitcher in that park? hello era of 5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Plus the guy is 39, will be a media circus and will have to serve a 50 day suspension. If this is what Dan Duquette is about........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Plus the guy is 39, will be a media circus and will have to serve a 50 day suspension. If this is what Dan Duquette is about........ Can't argue with much of what you said about Manny BUT do you really think/want Chris Davis/Nolan Reimold to get around 500 AB's? And wilson betemit to get around 250-400? (I was surprised by how good his numbers are) My point is we suck. If Manny has anythign left I wouldn't be opposed to us signing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Can't argue with much of what you said about Manny BUT do you really think/want Chris Davis/Nolan Reimold to get around 500 AB's? I absolutely want to see Nolan get 500+ AB's. Now that he's past that injury and some other things, I think he's going to be the biggest surprise for the O's season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I absolutely want to see Nolan get 500+ AB's. Now that he's past that injury and some other things, I think he's going to be the biggest surprise for the O's season. Thats fine. Hopefully he can ge back to what he did in the '09 season with regular AB's. Still leaves Davis...which could be a pleasant surprise. My point is we can do worse than manny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Can't argue with much of what you said about Manny BUT do you really think/want Chris Davis/Nolan Reimold to get around 500 AB's? And wilson betemit to get around 250-400? (I was surprised by how good his numbers are) My point is we suck. If Manny has anythign left I wouldn't be opposed to us signing him But say Manny has something left, how many games does he win for us? Maybe another 3 or 4? I mean you figure he's going to be miss a 1/3 of the season almost because of his suspension. So at most, he gives us 112 games. Why does a losing team need an aging vet to DH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I absolutely want to see Nolan get 500+ AB's. Now that he's past that injury and some other things, I think he's going to be the biggest surprise for the O's season. Agreed 110% I don't know what it is, but my gut instinct has always told me that sooner or later Nolan is going to breakout. I really pull for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Last Orioles game I was at I went on this long semi-coherent rant during a Reimold at bat about how on any other team he wouldn't be starting. He went yard. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 the koreans are not too happy that we did not use the proper procedure for grabbing Kim. they have filed a complaint with MLB and have banned O's scouts from attending Korean games as well as banning Kim from ever playing or coaching in Korea. dont know if anything will come of it, but it seems to me that they are quite angry that they didnt get financial gain from the scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 http://twitter.com/MannyMachado3/statuses/168116979926962176 I hate how MLB keeps ranking my orioles in last place again. Man I can't wait till we shut them up nd become al east division champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-9- Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This came from Eric Bickel's twitter page: EBJunkies Eric Bickel FWIW I heard the Orioles r being quietly shopped by Peter Angelos. Good news 4 O's fans. Bad news is asking price isn't enticing 4 buyers. Eric Bickel is co-host of The Sports Junkies on 106.7 The Fan in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please buy the team Cal!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Or anybody not named Schneider or Angelos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-9- Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Or anybody not named Schneider..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capcrunch98 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I hate how MLB keeps ranking my orioles in last place again. Man I can't wait till we shut them up nd become al east division champs. It's going to be a rough spring and summer in Charm City. And unlike last year, we won't have a lot of hype and hope going into this season to at least carry us through Memorial Day. At least I'll continue to be able to pay $8 for nosebleed seat and end up sitting 5 rows behind the dugout by the 3rd inning. Although by the 7th inning stretch, I am usually reminded of why the Yard is so empty in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have no problem with Machado tweeting that. I want players that want to win and care about winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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