dc1 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'm amazed at the statements that JC has only been good for the last 2 to 3 games or that he's very inconsistent. What is inconsistent is 1: The memories of most of the posters on the site. 2: The aptitude or level of fundamental football concepts. Between the last 6 games of 2008 and the first 7 of 2009: JC has played under arguably, the worst line in the NFL , a non existent running game and amateurish play calling (laughable as best). He has been and should be applauded to have lived through it – as no other NFL QB could have been successful under those conditions – None! Over the last 5 years we have seen how even the smallest amount of pressure disrupts the most prolific offenses and QBs in the league. See Peyton Manning and the Steelers or Tom Brady’s and NE’s perfect season crumble around NY’s defensive line. What has Changed? Within the last 5 games we have seen: Sherm Lewis (s) offense bloom into what appears to be a basic pro offense (better than what we had). The O-Line has provided more time – resulting in deeper (longer developing) and more consistent WR patterns as well as (to say the lest the occasional QB pocket) The O-Line has provided more up front push - resulting in a more successful running game – and a sellable play action. Very short list - He may not be a top 10 QB (yet),.. but he’s not garbage. What’s sad,.. is that most of the folks who bashed JC. Would have traded their left tennis ball to have Matt Cassel last off season….. oh that’s right ..a consistent system, protection and a competent running game doesn’t mean anything….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I believe that Matt Castille was the lead singer of a 1970s soul group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Skins_&_'Stons Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 What’s sad,.. is that most of the folks who bashed JC. Would have traded their left tennis ball to have Matt Casel last off season….. oh that’s right ..a consistent system, protection and a competent running game doesn’t mean anything….. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 This could be in about 29038423098 other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPWilliams17 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'm amazed at the statements that JC has only been good for the last 2 to 3 games or that he's very inconsistent.What is inconsistent is 1: The memories of most of the posters on the site. 2: The aptitude or level of fundamental football concepts. Between the last 6 games of 2008 and the first 7 of 2009: JC has played under arguably, the worst line in the NFL , a non existent running game and amateurish play calling (laughable as best). He has been and should be applauded to have lived through it – as no other NFL QB could have been successful under those conditions – None! Over the last 5 years we have seen how even the smallest amount of pressure disrupts the most prolific offenses and QBs in the league. See Peyton Manning and the Steelers or Tom Brady’s and NE’s perfect season crumble around NY’s defensive line. What has Changed? Within the last 5 games we have seen: Sherm Lewis (s) offense bloom into what appears to be a basic pro offense (better than what we had). The O-Line has provided more time – resulting in deeper (longer developing) and more consistent WR patterns as well as (to say the lest the occasional QB pocket) The O-Line has provided more up front push - resulting in a more successful running game – and a sellable play action. Very short list - He may not be a top 10 QB (yet),.. but he’s not garbage. What’s sad,.. is that most of the folks who bashed JC. Would have traded their left tennis ball to have Matt Castille last off season….. oh that’s right ..a consistent system, protection and a competent running game doesn’t mean anything….. Great post! I agree whole-heartedly. Jason has not looked good at times, but this TEAM as a whole hasn't looked good. Particualrly with the backward way of building the team (from the outside in), that Vinny has taken. That being said if we follow Vinny's trajectory and focus on beefing up the O-line a bit more with some young quality depth (last year we upgraded the D-Line a bit). Then maybe we can FINALLY do something in Zorn's third year. Yeah, I said Zorn's third year. I now consider these first two years as on the job training. Not the way most teams in the NFL would do it, but that seems to be the way of our Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Fixed. Sorta fixed. Getting closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan4life83 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Good call, JC has won me back over the year, the kid can ball and is still getting better. For anyone to think we will be better without him shows just how little they know of football:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 Fixed. Darn it' date='.. I could have sworn they were the same guy…. Thanks ![/font'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwyl Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 What’s sad,.. is that most of the folks who bashed JC. Would have traded their left tennis ball to have Matt Casel last off season….. oh that’s right ..a consistent system, protection and a competent running game doesn’t mean anything….. What’s sad,.. is that most of the folks who bashed JC. Would have traded their left tennis ball to have Matt Cassel last off season….. oh that’s right ..a consistent system, protection and a competent running game doesn’t mean anything….. Fixed. Fixed your fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I am convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Some JC Bashers are just sad,.... of course they're sad Campbell is playing great, and becoming the leader of this team :cool2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Skins_&_'Stons Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Sorta fixed. Getting closer. Fixed your fixed :doh: :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 :doh::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: double that for me:doh::doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well enjoy your post thread starter...you'll just get mocked for the most part, without much serious football conversation and more vitriol from the agenda driven bashers of Campbell you're calling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 of course they're sadCampbell is playing great, and becoming the leader of this team :cool2: Seriously man. WTF? It's bad enough when a guy with 5 posts starts a callout thread making the debate a personal issue and questioning the "aptitude" of anyone who disagrees with him. But when a mod stoops to this level it lowers the standard of the entire board. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ignorance is bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Seriously man. WTF?It's bad enough when a guy with 5 posts starts a callout thread making the debate a personal issue and questioning the "aptitude" of anyone who disagrees with him. But when a mod stoops to this level it lowers the standard of the entire board. :doh: Well put. In 5 years the JC love fest has found a game to hang their hats on, 1 win against the Raiders in which Russell had to replace big time Gradkowski, keep reaching for them stars guy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Seriously man. WTF?It's bad enough when a guy with 5 posts starts a callout thread making the debate a personal issue and questioning the "aptitude" of anyone who disagrees with him. But when a mod stoops to this level it lowers the standard of the entire board. :doh: 1. I'm staff not a moderator 2. lighten up it was a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 1. I'm staff not a moderator2. lighten up it was a joke Staff... mod... whatever... Yeah, it's a joke all right. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well put.In 5 years the JC love fest has found a game to hang their hats on' date=' 1 win against the Raiders in which Russell had to replace big time Gradkowski, keep reaching for them stars guy's.[/quote'] your post isn't even a little bit relevant to the post you quoted, just another excuse to bash Campbell. yeah one win :thumbsup: :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passizle Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ignorance is bliss. Only you would know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Can I ask why everyone has to pick a side on Campbell? Why can't we root for the guy and team and let the football people do there job? Either people say he will be our franchise qb, or others say he sucks and shouldn't be in the league. Some, but very few, believe he is what he is. A great game manager, a starting qb (with proper building around him), and someone who can lead a team with his toughness. Is he the best? No. But is he the worst? No. Everyone in the league is looking for the next Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, etc. But 85% of the league doesn't have them. So stop acting like we are the only team in search of one. We have a middle of the pack qb right now, one who has shown flashes of brilliance and stupidity. But everyone needs to stop acting as though he is our problem. The construction of this team is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Staff... mod... whatever...Yeah, it's a joke all right. :doh: excuse me, but unless you can suddenly read minds, don't try to tell me my thought process. there is nothing wrong, or suggestive in my post that violates board rules or good taste, don't attempt to condemn me because you read it wrong, or transposed more than what was written. I read the title and thought it was a good set up line to poke fun at the Campbell bashers.... believe it or not, I don't care but don't tell me what I was thinking and suggest I would lie about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 your post isn't even a little bit relevant to the post you quoted, just another excuse to bash Campbell.yeah one win :thumbsup: :hysterical: Sorry if you can't comprehend I touched on 2 different issues there[that is why I separated "well put" from the rest of the post:thumbsup:] then it is not hard to understand your belief that JC is a franchise QB. Your not overly observant.:loser: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Can I ask why everyone has to pick a side on Campbell? Why can't we root for the guy and team and let the football people do there job?................ We have a middle of the pack qb right now, one who has shown flashes of brilliance and stupidity. But everyone needs to stop acting as though he is our problem. The construction of this team is the problem. Awesome post and I agree with everything you said. I don't think he's a franchise QB but I think he's someone you can win with. The options outside of Campbell for next season aren't necessarily any better (he's among the best FA QBs and this rookie class isn't that great IMO). Bring him back and see what he can do at a modest price and if not, move on. That's contingent on him playing this well for the rest of the season though. If not, cut him loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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