Diesel Hog Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 First we need an O-Line. However, if CJ Spiller is available in the Draft, he may be a good pick up. I watch a lot of Clemson games, and this guy is impressive. In my ideal draft (if we had about 7 picks) I'd like to see this: 1. CJ Spiller 2. Left OT 3. OG 4. another OT 5. another OG 6. LB 7. CB Something like that...seems like we need more general depth all around (O-line, LB, DB, DT). Having said that, if a guy like CJ is available, I say we take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Night Roach Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 He has what...About 3 years left on his contract? He could be spent by then. In all reality, this entire offense needs to be revamped. I don't see him as being the back of the future for this team, I believe he's in his twilight years. I'd like to see this team start fresh with young players...Big, young, & cheap. I'd also like to see the offensive scheme changed too - This WC style that we're using is for the birds. It isn't working. We need new players as much as we need a new scheme. O-Line, receivers, QB. And yes, RB. Our O-Line? Out with the old & in with the new. Moss if I kept him & not use for trade bait would be a slot receiver, not the featured number one. Sorry, but the days of the 5'10" Clayton & Duper "Marks Brothers" are long gone, & we don't exactly have Dan Marino with that quick release as our QB either. We have a backup at best, but I'll keep the rest of my thoughts about that for another thread. As for Cooley? Stud. He stays. Sorry folks, I'll stop. My post turned into a rant, I apologize for that. Well, at least I didn't start a new thread with my rant. Don't want to get that dreaded "Hi there :)". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askounes Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 It'd be nice to upgrade at RB, but I don't feel that's our main concern. I think if we rotate Betts and CP we'll be OK - we need to use our picks for the OL and maybe a Safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'd MAKE SURE to get a QB. If they trade down, (which I hope. To SF maybe? They have 2 firsts) draft an o-lineman with the first pick and QB with the second. And another idea. Trade LaRon Landry for a draft pick. 2nd if someone's in dire need of a safety, 3rd at worst. If no one trades for the Skins first, DRAFT ERIC BERRY. I know it's not offensive line, but you can not miss with him. Let Campbell go, cut Portis or restructure his contract, bye bye Betts. Let Randle Fail go. (Love him, but just not worth the money). Sign o-lineman in free agency, and draft about 3 or so. In FA, sign Pierre Thomas or Jerious Norwood. That's just a FEW things that need to be done in my opinion. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_HOG Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Fix the OL and running lanes will appear and Portis will get the yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I guess Vinny saw this thread and got Ganther back, nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big "Pimpin" Chief Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Johnathan Stewart!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Portis still has some left. Betts deserves a shot to prove himself as power back here. I would get one more RB though. Most likely a back with some power but has great speed like Portis did when he first came to redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorebd82 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I've been advocating for a QB in the 1st and an OT in the 2nd or even trading back into the late 1st for our choice of OT, but now I'm starting to change my stance. Looking at our draft position and league-wide team needs, I think we might be able to grab an impact back with our second pick. I like the idea of going QB 1st, RB 2nd. All the OL supporters will shoot this down, but hear me out. Bring in two FAs to compete for starting spots on the line. Also spend our 4th and 5th on offensive linemen. But let our new FO decide between Locker, Bradford, Clausen. Then it seems like we could get excellent value at RB in the late first/early second. Looking at team needs around the league, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jahvid Best take a fall. If you look at the teams in the top 20 in standings, the Packers and Bears are the only teams that don't have RBBC or a scatback. So Best might slip to the end of the first round where we could move up to around pick 29-30 for a minimal cost (2011 3rd). Or we could sit at our pick in the 2nd and draft Jonathan Dwyer. He's 250 with breakaway speed. As mentioned before, spend the 4th and 5th on line. Maybe target guys like Jason Fox, Ed Wang, Ciron Black or maybe some guards. Then spend the 7th on a RB to complement the earlier back. If you draft Best, then get Blount in the 7th. If you get Dwyer, go for a guy like Trindon Holliday in the 7th. Under this situation, we could get our QB of the future, RB of the future, two FA starters on the line, two line reserves, and a change of pace back. Sit the QB. Spend early picks in 2011 on line. When our QB starts, he'll have a rebuilt line, the young WRs and TE should be acclimated, and he'll have a RBBC (Portis; Best/Dwyer; Blount/Holliday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Skinhead in Saints Land Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ciron Black is an All American OT. How in the hell is he gonna drop to the 4th or 5th round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, I'm glad all the Portis is better than Riggo silliness is finally gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wysknz1 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 We need an offensive line. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorebd82 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ciron Black is an All American OT. How in the hell is he gonna drop to the 4th or 5th round? That's where he's projected to go. He's considered to be in about the 4th tier of tackles. He's considered by most to be overrated, he's inconsistent and not able to play the left side at all. I'm mostly referencing the ESPN guys projections right now. They seem to be the most accurate each year. I notice that the other guys with drastically different boards start to look more and more like ESPN boards as the draft approaches. Okung is the only OL on Kiper's Big Board, and Ciron Black is listed as his 5th senior tackle (probably no better than 7th overall OT) and is not even considered a top 100 players according to Scouts Inc. Tier 1 - early 1st Okung Tier 2 - late 1st/early 2nd Trent Williams Bulaga Charles Brown Anthony Davis Tier 3 - late 2nd/early 3rd Tony Washington Sam Young Selvish Capers Tier 4 - late 3rd/early 4th Kyle Calloway Jason Fox Ed Wang Ciron Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yes! We need a game changer like Chris Johnson. Javid Best is the one we need to draft! He's a game changer! Build O-line through free agency and the draft. Keep Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yes... we also a need a QB, two OTs, an OG, and a fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 With no salary cap next year, you can expect a lot of contracts to be torn up. Its hard to tell what direction the team will go, especially with new coach. The Skins need everything at this point. QB, OL, RB, DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21forlyfe Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, I'm glad all the Portis is better than Riggo silliness is finally gone. Portis is better..Infact Riggo rushed for less than a 1000 yrds in a full season behind the HOGS...Just Imagine CP doing this ..Infact This year CP will do the same by missing two games ,and running behind this Oline..Skins fan are a joke,They are game to game fans(not you)Next week there will be a thread "the god of Ganther" lmfao..If Ganther has ONE good game and lets say LB plays bad..you will see Start Ganther threads:laugh::laugh::laugh:ES fanbase is clueless so far..Every week some random "One game Hero" will be on this board:hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yes..................................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbowman Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 With Portis' injuries (and 10,328 other factors) threatening his performance, Betts should get the start. Everyone rides him for fumbles, etc., but the evidence is there. When given carries in succession and being more than just a sub, he produces. Call it what you will, but the running production from him last game surpasses anything I've seen from CP this season. 2006 should prove that the guy is capable. Especially given the state of our offensive line, I'd prefer having Betts as a checkdown/swing pass option. That play last week when he picked up 11 or so would've been a 2 yard gain with CP the way he's been falling down on cuts this year. The problem is the evidence supports the fact he can get yards when given more carries, but fails to find the end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 There's been a lot of good RB discussion in the recent pages (90-100) of the QB draft thread: http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=295979 That is quickly become a de facto draft thread. Good discussion going on in there. There you can find my position that we need to be looking RB in the 4th round. Some one like Ben Tate, or one of the second tier Pac 10 guys (McKnight, Blount). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxford Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I would love for the Skins to pick up Spiller but the Skins main focus must be on OL in the draft wherever they are. I can understand them taking a QB with the first pick but the OL MUST be addressed in the high rounds somehow and even in the late ones. Without a solid OL there will be even less passing and less running=less scoring next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorebd82 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If we go QB first and RB with the second pick, we could really establish the identity of the team and be able to ease the QB in as a second year starter. If Best slips, move to the end of the first and grab him. No position has first year impact like a tailback. Best could provide the breakaway ability as part of a RB duo with Portis plus a return game threat and be teamed with our defense under a more aggressive scheme. We would see immediate results. If we stay put and draft 250 lb Dwyer, we would have the most smashmouth running attack in the league. I would assume that we make a major FA move on the line for us to draft a RB, but if you have Portis and Dwyer running behind a stud RG, we will have the most aggressive rushing attack in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantula Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 LaGarrett Blount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorebd82 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 LaGarrett Blount. I recommended a few posts back that I would draft him in the 7th after taking Best in the late first. Portis, Best and Blount could give us a rushing attack similar to the Ravens in 2008. Especially if we go after a couple of free agent linemen and spend our 4th and 5th on linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1skinsfanever Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Trade down pick up picks draft a young back and OL. You can find a good back in 2nd 3rd round but if a top back is there pick him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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