SkinsNumberOne

It feels strange when your brain melts.

Sacks and pressures are, by many, considered a QB statistic. Feeling the pocket, stepping up at the right times, releasing at the right times to the right players, keeping your cool; those are all key components of how your protection looks. Wentz looked really bad on all of those metrics. I'm not saying he couldn't improve with some time and some better OL play (but, I think most importantly, MORE RUNNING PLAYS CALLED), but I don't know if it's as simple as "he needs better protection."

Hm, I think you may have missed a couple of key points. Part of the reasons coaches struggle here is because the organization is set up for them to fail in some respects, and in others it is set up to feed their desires. So, do they know their weaknesses (independently), and avoid them, or do they give in? Do they hire their kids/buddies all over the place? I think the guy who did it the best may have been Shanahan, but he also had a lot of owner interference. I haven't gotten the impression that Rivera has had the same level, just based on him hiring so many buddies (so, so many). Snyder is so well established as a poison and this org as a cesspool, he has to promise the kitchen sink to get "good" coaches, who then get power hungry and do things that maybe if they were forced to check themselves against a Pres or GM, they wouldn't do. Not so, here. So it creates the laissez-faire attitude you reference to some degree. All that said, you are DEAD ON with accountability issues. Again, though, it is related to having all of that power. They don't see themselves as accountable, because it's practically in their contract that way! That's the only way they CAME here, after all. I think you are right though - Rivera should OWN the performance on the field. In particular, the playcalling which was much better today, and look at that, a W. I think we'd be sniffing 4 wins by now with the same playcalling against DAL and PHI. With consistent running plays, even with just Gibson, we would have been competitive in those games.

That statement doesn't mean "because she survived cancer" - they are trying to play the victim, yes, but they are just trying to list her positives. Yes it is weird though. The emphasis on Tanya is really strange.

It IS a concern, but I think Spurrier and Rivera have left clear prints. They brought in chums that are clear indications that their decisions carried weight during their time here. I'm not saying every draft/FA pick was specifically them, but there are many moves in draft/FA that have their clear prints. So in that respect, yes it is different from other regimes. That doesn't mean that some of the big moves (Wentz for example) weren't nudged, sure. That isn't the make-or-break for this team being as bad as it is. When you play against horrible Run defenses, and your OC doesn't run the ball - that ain't Snyder! Let's not mix the fact that Snyder is a horrible owner (clear observable) with Scott Turner is a horrible OC (clear observable) and Ron gives him a lot of cover (seen in press conferences, and unearned 3-year extension).

Hey hey hey, wait a second. Spurrier is the one who filled the team up with Gators who had failed everywhere, thinking that they just needed his magical scheme. Zorn made some very obvious mistakes. Jay Gruden, also, was given a lot of leeway. The stories about him (like the ones with DJ Swearinger) are crazy and have nothing to do with the org. Everyone else... yeah. Reverse car wash. Yes, from what I heard, all organizational problems are traceable to Bruce. Not sure where I heard that, but yeah, org should be good now. Bruce gone = we good /sarcasm

Is that the obvious lesson here? I mean, look at the other NFC East teams? Rivera wants to say Quarterback is what divides the NFC East teams. Do you agree? The Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys are winning because teams can adapt systems and make systems win without requiring a specific Quarterback. Scott Turner's system requires all of the pieces to fit just so... otherwise.. JENGA! This failure is because the system requires far too much; Scott himself has essentially said that (but he's too stupid to understand it) in the past. It's easy to blame QBs when they don't make the "perfect decision" or the "perfect play" in a situation. Is that realistic? How many quarterbacks need to come through and perform at best average (Alex Smith) until everyone universally realizes that the OC we have needs to be replaced before any QB would have any success? Josh Allen could come here, he would be a total failure. Maholmes. You have to have other pieces in place for success, starting with an OC who knows what he's doing. I am not saying there isn't a magic formula that could make Scott's decisions work, I am just saying the odds are against it. There's plenty of data to back my statement up.

Well, the sequence of statements is great. "What makes the other divisional teams better?" "Quarterback." "Hmm, so just to be clear, uh, Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush? " "Oh, well HE is a guy who fits their system." I mean, the excuse machine is so broken it is just spewing nonsense. The "system" doesn't require a specific QB, that is "the system" - it is called a "winning system" when you consider the factors at play in the NFL, overpaid QBs, teams that are hard to construct. You have to have a combination of a few factors to be in Super Bowl conversations: - flexible scheme to accommodate for different players - players who are good values If you have those two factors, you can be a perennial winner. The way the structure is set, you cannot count on contract shenanigans to carry you. You can't get 1-year rentals and think you will renew them if they perform (especially at QB), because they will eat too much of your salary cap. The decision making of the Commanders COMPLETELY LACKS visibility on the importance of those two factors. They do the exact opposite: - search idiotically for magical fits that will make an inane offensive scheme suddenly look great; one that has never had success yet, despite getting multiple years (cue excuse machine; but, but, the personnel didn't match!) - let "good value" players (maybe not the most talented you have, mind you) walk Just to be clear, I think the Cowboys team is extremely overrated; they are far from one of the elite teams in the league. I don't necessarily think they win that game without help from the refs, but I think it's possible they do. However, Ron Rivera right now looks much worse than McCarthy, and that is pretty pathetic. It is of his own doing though, because he took the reins of this team and has driven it to the trash heap.

Just read an old 2020 article talking about how Scott Turner in Carolina was OC for four games: 0-4 record outside of garbage time (last 5 mins): avg 8 points per game sound familiar? Nothing changed for this guy after this many years, but of course it’s the qb Ron! some other interesting tidbits in article about nepotism: https://deadspin.com/dwayne-haskins-sacrificed-for-nfl-nepotism-of-scott-tur-1845339489

My kids are fans and I just try to make sure they don’t spend three hours every week glued to this. It is too much of a time and life commitment when the outcome is known, and the product is not even entertaining. I may be ok with watching full games with them again when Scott is gone. Right now this offense is hot garbage. It is just too much to see this level of abject incompetence.

Yes that is a big mention, I just got tired of listing, haha. I actually didn't know that last point from Keim, interesting. Yeah I did read how upset BUF was. That's pretty stupid; a LOT of good things happen when you maintain good relationships. This is the other huge indictment I see in Rivera. He was supposed to usher in "respectability" and a "culture change" but this offseason proved the opposite. They made huge missteps that proved "more of the same" and in some cases MUCH WORSE than with Kyle Smith running our FA/draft. We have 0 respect from the Colts and Buf. Colts because they 100% know they fleeced us, we had no competition and overpaid for Wentz REGARDLESS of his performance. You don't overpay for no reason! BUF was very annoyed by the McKissic situation. McKissic clearly wanted to stay in WAS. The thing you are referencing as a "mistake" - do you know, they said that was their "POLICY???" So it wasn't really a "mistake" as much as the most moronic plan you could imagine. Much worse than a mistake. Either this was a VERY STUPID plan, OR (and I think this is true) they knew they'd have attrition from Wentz contract and some negative pub, so they decided to not contact anyone and let "nature take its course." Well, guess who you lose then? You lose your BEST VALUES, other teams swoop in and take YOUR BEST VALUES. What an absolute shock that Settle, Carter, and McKissic disappeared so quickly, along with Ionnaidis who was particularly upset about treatment (culture change??). This lack of respect to players is the opposite of culture change and respectability. This is the kind of stuff where I saw with confidence, Snyder or not, this regime of Rivera and FO need to get the boot. Actually I really think Rivera has managed what I thought impossible. He took away a lot of places where we had some real potential growing. Amazing. Managed to make this team demonstrably worse.

I dislike Dan as much or more than anyone. I stand by that. However, a lot of the moves have Ron's imprint on them. I don't know, maybe Dan said "you can't go with O'Connell, I don't like him" or "Get rid of Kyle Smith, he smells" or whatever. I have no idea. All I know is, everyone who we ended up having here: Scott Turner, Marties, all of them have specific associations with Rivera's past. It just became clear that Rivera thinks that he has some crack team. The record speaks for itself. Even if they have some wins later this year, it's another poor start and I don't see them turning it around to make the playoffs. Most of us think they probably end the year with a bottom-feeder record. Bottom-feeder, average, whatever, I just don't think it matters. Rivera has built a team based on favoritism, and we are seeing what happens when merit is so low on your priority list. We are not in the rooms with Rivera, that is true, but at the very least I think signing Scott Turner to a 3-year extension was unearned and asinine. Just like Wentz, no one was calling for Scott Turner.

They may be getting close to the Super Bowel, where all of the worst teams get to. If the past three weeks are any indication (and yes, I include Detroit based on the first half there and then making similar mistakes in two more games), then I think this team has a very good chance of being the worst we've seen. I do think that someone will force Turner to run the ball more at some point in the season, and then we'll win some games. I believe that will happen. I don't believe any sane person should accept that as proof that this HC or his creation (GMs, coaching staff) deserve any more time here. Just my opinion, but there was too much obvious stupidity: - Wentz's deal cost way too much; no one was competing for his services, so we definitely overpaid. Colts basically gloated about it later. - Wentz's deal led to a LOT of attrition that was basically admitted. - Ioannidis (his agent said something about Wentz contract being why the FO changed their minds on keeping him) - Settle (just a guess that it was related, but regardless I think this was idiotic) - DeAndre Carter (again, idiotic planning) - Jamin Davis as a first round pick; this was widely thought to be a reach. It looks like this was a reach. When you make moves as if you are the smartest guys in the room, and you end up being very wrong, that's a bad look. Some analysts are saying that Davis is being asked to do too much (in terms of complexity) by Del Rio. In both cases, in my mind, it is a reflection of Rivera in some way because Rivera has his fingerprints on the FO and coaching staff to such a large degree. - There is more, a lot more, but anyway I think it's enough

Too bad the refs didn't call holding on one of them. Maybe they could sack Wentz next week just to one-up themselves.

I have been a subscriber of the Snyder cycle since Shanahan. When Snyder got rid of Cerrato, I hoped that things would get better for obvious reasons. The alternative was pretty sad. Here we are. When the Shanahan thing blew up, I knew we were toast in terms of reaching any high levels of success. To me, though, there is a LARGE gap between "high levels of success" and what we saw on the field the last three weeks. What Scott Turner has put together. There is a LARGE gap between those two things. I also personally don't remember a time when a coach was given as much power over this team since Schottenheimer. Even with Gibbs, Snyder was enjoying buddying up and feeling like a big shot, being in the room making decisions with Cerrato and Gibbs. I think Schottenheimer kicked him out, and Shanahan wanted to but couldn't. I don't know if Ron wants to kick him out or not, or what has happened there, but I imagine Snyder has been somewhat involved. Still, this is the first time I have ever seen a coach get this much power in Washington since Schottenheimer, that is my feeling. The result has been atrocious, so a lot of my feelings are about getting Ron out because he's just so, so bad at this point (along with Turner in particular).