finbudguy Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 He's not my type..... :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20April1980 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 If you seriously think he's playing to the standard of a top 10 QB, your standards are WAY lower than mine.Leading an offense to a serious lack of scoring, the fumble problems returning, what should be 4 INT's, one a pick six were it not for a poor Lions secondary on two successive plays last week, continued slow reads and broken plays when it counts; but behold, were moving the ball between the twenties, and the (b/s) QB rating doesn't lie. :doh: Oh, and he's led his team, (like it or not, he's the QB, and the leader. It's what they get paid the bucks for), to one win out of three, by getting them in position to put up a whopping NINE points on the SB bound Rams. (I'm still not laughing at that one either.). And nice distorting of my post to have me having no one else accountable on this anemic O, despite what I said. :doh: Your sitting there straight faced and saying his play is top ten worthy, regardless of what the rankings say? SERIOUSLY? Hail. Not me the stats. The same stats that say we are almost dead last in rushing and have zero rushing td's by the offense. We have 1 by the punter :hysterical: We have not had a 100 yard rusher in 12 games Why is this not a concern? I would rather figure out why we have not had a 100 yard rusher than bench a 92 rated qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Not me the stats.The same stats that say we are almost dead last in rushing and have zero rushing td's by the offense. We have 1 by the punter :hysterical: We have not had a 100 yard rusher in 12 games Why is this not a concern? Who said it wasn't? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20April1980 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Who said it wasn't?Hail. You How does the most important person on this or any other team, your leader, your QB, the man who sets everything in motion, have "no bearing" on why the offense isn't scoring? :whoknows:We can't run the ball to press in '09, no question. Equally, we've had little production through the air. And by production, I'm alluding to those pesky point thingies that win you games. And not every play in the precious RZ has been a run. If the run games not working, very good or better QB's pick up the slack and get it done. '09 is no different to the previous 3 years he's started in that respect. And no, he's not the only problem by any means on the offensive unit. And I include our very amateur HC in that, as he likes to take charge of the O. But he sure is a MAJOR one, and has been for a lot longer than this embryonic season. Hail. No running game would be a major concern. Blaming the qb cause we only have 4 offensive td's is not. We know why we aint scoring. We can't run the ball!!!! We are 1 dimensional and predictable inside the redzone. Run left Run left for no gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 YouNo running game would be a major concern. Blaming the qb cause we only have 4 offensive td's is not. We know why we aint scoring. We can't run the ball!!!! We are 1 dimensional and predictable inside the redzone. Run left Run left for no gain. :doh: I don't know why I'm asking, as your ignoring the point on the offense as a whole and fixating on the lack of a serious running threat these first three games in '09, but does the above account for the lack of scoring his previous 36 starts too? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubstix Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Jeff Garcia for what? We are hardly a team one QB away from a superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMeast Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Quarterback is far, far, far, far, far, far, far from the problem!Seacrest, OUT! Agreed. Did you know that Jason Campbell is currently the number ten ranked passer in the league. Seriously, the Redskins have a top ten quarterback currently. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20April1980 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 :doh:I don't know why I'm asking, as your ignoring the point on the offense as a whole and fixating on the lack of a serious running threat these first three games in '09, but does the above account for the lack of scoring his previous 36 starts too? Hail. Nope. My analysis has nothing to do with last year or the year before that.. Just what is happening this year. If the numbers and play on the field said bench JC I would be screaming it from the rafters as well. The facts show all the good offenses can run the ball. We have always had success when we ran the ball. Some one needs to start scoring some rushing td's. We can't get the yard when it matters let alone when it doesn't. We have to rely on Jason just to be in games and your blaming him for the fact that we had a chance but lost cause we couldn't even go 1 yard to score a TD. JC does not have to be Peyton Manning. We just needs a balanced offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20April1980 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Agreed. Did you know that Jason Campbell is currently the number ten ranked passer in the league. Seriously, the Redskins have a top ten quarterback currently. HTTR Be nice if we had a top 10 ranked RB right now :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Nope. My analysis has nothing to do with last year. Just what this year. If the numbers and play on the field said bench JC I would be screaming it from the rafters as well.The facts show all the good offenses can run the ball. We have always had success when we ran the ball. Some one needs to start scoring some rushing td's. We can't get the yard when it matters let alone when it doesn't. We have to rely on Jason just to be in games and your blaming him for the fact that we had a chance cause we couldn't even go 1 yard to score a TD. JC does not have to be Peyton Manning. We just needs a balanced offense. Wasn't aware I put the blame on him for last week's opening drive leaving points on the field, but whatever fits, shrugs. We never will have a balanced scoring offense, if you want to go off facts. Last year for example we ran the ball well, and ended up leaning it almost solely to our folly down the stretch as we had zero threat through the air, and opposing D's focused on the only threat we did have. In 39 starts, we've had little scoring threat to speak of from him. It's nothing new to '09 because the run game isn't getting it done. He's playing better ball this year, but that's saying little, particularly when it comes to scoring production. Or the ability to process everything quick enough and make the right decision within that. But the very misleading stats say we've got a top ten QB so all's well with the QB play, regardless of what's been left on the field. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Why is it JC's fault our rushing game is almost ranked DEAD LAST Really? You don't know? That proves your ignorance. If we had a QB that defenses actually respected and feared, that would open up the running game, period. When you have a QB that does little more than hand off or dump the ball off to game plan against, it makes it very easy to stop the opposing offense. You keep bringing up stats about his so called production. The truth of the matter is that he has produced next to squat when the game really mattered or was on the line. Once the game is out of reach and the defense is in prevent, he's the man. Hence where your skewed stats come from. Interesting how his best passing stat games are losses, hmmm? However, the main stat, the only stat that matters, the one you are refusing to look at is the stat for WINS. You know, the object of the game? Take a look at that stat. Even in the years when our running game is lights out, he still can't deliver that stat. We aren't talking about three games; we're talking about three years plus. Now, if you get a QB behind center that can read a defense, find open WR's, doesn't hold on to the ball forever, and can accurately pass the ball more than 15 yards down the field, I guarantee you that the running game AND the line will look 100% better. It starts with the field general, and JC could not lead a lemming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Garcia is a master of the west coast offense. He can't run anything else, but he can run that offense to a T. However, I do agree with those pointing out that our OL is leaking like a sieve, and Garcia does tend to take hits when he's got pressure. I always have liked the way he plays though. He has more heart then our entire team is displaying right now, and one thing is for sure with Garcia, he leaves every ounce of fight he's got out there on the field. You'll never see him quit. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 He's a west coast QB who's been very productive over the years. Could he be any worse than Collins and Campbell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 i have to agree, i said this while watching the game, cut Aldridge.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 It would get us through this year and next, until we draft a franchise qb in the 2011 draft. I would rather us do that than burn a 1st rounder on someone this year without doing some serious repairs on the Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papabear Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I totally agree. I'm still confused why Philly didn't keep him. Good grab for the Skins if you ask me. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I said this before the season. We don't have "the answer" at QB, may as well bring in a Vet that understand the west coast offense to groom whoever we draft next year. Keep in mind Redskin fans, we have to sign SOMEONE no matter what we do. Campbell is gone at the end of the year. We have no starting QB next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I totally agree.I'm still confused why Philly didn't keep him. Good grab for the Skins if you ask me. :2cents: really? philly has mcnabb, kolb who was fire, and vick....wo would u drop for garcia? that said i agree, lets sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 It would be interesting to see him get picked but beyond our offensive line I am not sure anybody could be successful in that situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Do we really even need to try to salvage the season? Let it run its course and hope to get a top 5 pick. Sadly this season is over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Actually, I'd be in favor of this too. At least it'd give us a chance to grade our WRs. Its hard to grade them with QBs who we think aren't quality QBs. Maybe he'll find ways to utilize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 You want him killed too behind this terrible O-line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGordon_3 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 How could he be worse than what we got? What does Vinny have to lose? I think Garcia could be successful here. His track record speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyBoy Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 He's a west coast QB who's been very productive over the years. Could he be any worse than Collins and Campbell? Why we didn't grab him the moment he became available is an absolute mystery.........but then again it would have made perfect sense, which is clearly something this organization hasn't the ability to execute. Hopefully they'll see the light and folks here will see what can happen with even a serviceable QB under center. I fully understand JC is not the only problem, but he's a big one. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. Time to fess up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Welcome to 2004:hysterical: Garthia should have been signed instead of Brunell. Wouldn't have cost a draft pick, and no $40M mega-deal either. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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