AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 with sanctioned propaganda label "Good Luck" is a "sanctioned propaganda?" Now I've heard it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 "Good Luck" is a "sanctioned propaganda?" Now I've heard it all. You apparently have bought into it:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 I'd be more than happy to sentence those owners to 10 yrs in prison and fine them to recoup the illegals relocation costs.A first class plane ticket back home sounds good. Both encourage it,while they excuse it for economic and humanitarian reasons. I wonder how many of your vegetables were picked by illegals, I guess by the fact that you buy them then you too are complicit, after all if you really wanted to make sure you weren't aiding in criminal activity then you'd grow all your own veggies. Oh, and beef too because they work in our cattle farms too, and pigs, and poultry...wow looks like we're all going on a diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 You apparently have bought into it:D LoL well I certainly won't use that term again, I'd hate to be a propagandist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 I don't think there is an issue with him leaving water in metal containers, for example. Anyone have a problem with leaving metal containers out there for them? I don't, heck I'd buy some to put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Anyone have a problem with leaving metal containers out there for them? I don't, heck I'd buy some to put out. You mean like a fence?...I'm onboard with containment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Who promotes travel? Daytona Beach or the McDonald's that you stop at on the way? Neither the bottle guy nor the horse farm advertise. (As far as I know.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Aug 2009 From Jan. 1 through the date, at least 135 bodies have been found along that stretch, up from 120 at the same time last year, medical examiners' records show. I find it odd that the same people that say the aborinal swamp rat is putting HUMANS out of work in logging... but 135 people dying in 8 months due to a lack of water can't have a bottle of water.... (IN the Desert). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeysc23 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Its one thing to be humanitarian ... its another to promote illegal activity. While I understand its close to impossible to solve the problem of illegals crossing the border, we shouldn't be promoting the activity or encouraging it through those kinds of behavior. They understand the risk they take when trying to ILLEGALLY enter this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Funny how after you demonize people (they steal our jobs, our education and our healthcare) they don't deserve water when they're dying of thirst in desert anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Anyone have a problem with leaving metal containers out there for them? I don't, heck I'd buy some to put out. No problem with humanitarian aid here. I'd agree that the best way to stop illegal immigration is to greatly reduce or remove the employment opportunities. First priority should be providing tools for employers to validate that employees are legal, and then enforcing the law very aggressively. If we need cheap immigrant labor, we should have a cheap and easy temporary visa program that supports it. Commercial companies can quickly stand up databases and systems that manage millions of people, so it would not be a big deal to provide the tools that employers need to only hire legal immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Aug 2009I find it odd that the same people that say the aborinal swamp rat is putting HUMANS out of work in logging... but 135 people dying in 8 months due to a lack of water can't have a bottle of water.... (IN the Desert). If 135 people had been shot while performing home invasions, would you favor humanitarians handing them Kevlar, "to protect their lives"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 No problem with humanitarian aid here. I'd agree that the best way to stop illegal immigration is to greatly reduce or remove the employment opportunities. First priority should be providing tools for employers to validate that employees are legal, and then enforcing the law very aggressively. If we need cheap immigrant labor, we should have a cheap and easy temporary visa problem that supports it. Commercial companies can quickly stand up databases and systems that manage millions of people, so it would not be a big deal to provide the tools that employers need to only hire legal immigrants. Oh, I'd agree. The biggest reason we have a problem with illegal immigration is because of the huge numbers of people who are paying people to do it. (Funny. We can throw people in jail for buying drugs, because they are giving money to dealers. But we just can't seem to punish businesses for financially promoting crime.) And the biggest reason why it's hard to punish businesses is because it's just too easy for the businesses to play the "I didn't know" card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I some what agree with MSF's approach to border protection less the muder part. If we started firing liv grenades ane missles in the general direction illegals would have second thought about crossing our border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxBuddy21 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I think they should start spreading water out in the desert. And springing traps on anyone that drinks the water. That way, you give them the water they need so they dont die of thirst, then we can ship them back across the border immediately. Solves both problems right? Im sorry but it is ridiculous that a country that worries about budgets and money spent the way we do continues to allow people to come to this country illegally with little or no recourse. All of the major job sectors that provide work to illegals should be audited and searched. Want to create jobs for Americans? Imagine the number of jobs that would create and the project would pay for itself with the money we save by exporting the illegals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 Neither the bottle guy nor the horse farm advertise. (As far as I know.) But, what I was responding to was the thought that leaving water is somehow encouraging them to cross. They were already travelling through there he just gave them water so they wouldn't die, it really sounds though as if some would be more comfortable if there was no water and the illegals died in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 I some what agree with MSF's approach to border protection less the muder part.If we started firing liv grenades ane missles in the general direction illegals would have second thought about crossing our border. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses...for target practice." Something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 If 135 people had been shot while performing home invasions, would you favor humanitarians handing them Kevlar, "to protect their lives"? No one is shooting the immigrants...huge difference. BTW, in most states you can't shoot someone in your house unless your life is directly threatened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 Funny how after you demonize people (they steal our jobs, our education and our healthcare) they don't deserve water when they're dying of thirst in desert anymore. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 If 135 people had been shot while performing home invasions, would you favor humanitarians handing them Kevlar, "to protect their lives"? Actually it would be "yard" not house and yes.. Walking through your yard is not a death sentence. and water is a basic human necessity. No different than a cop doing CPR on a criminal to keep them alive after a car chase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeysc23 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Funny how after you demonize people (they steal our jobs, our education and our healthcare) they don't deserve water when they're dying of thirst in desert anymore. If you put yourself in a life threatening situation for whatever reason (and yes crossing the desert to illegally enter a country with not enough water) is a life threatening situation .... why should people feel bad? How about going through the proper means to enter this country? Then you don't have to risk your life almost dieing in a desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 If you put yourself in a life threatening situation for whatever reason (and yes crossing the desert to illegally enter a country with not enough water) is a life threatening situation .... why should people feel bad?How about going through the proper means to enter this country? Then you don't have to risk your life almost dieing in a desert. I don't understand how people cannot feel bad for folks who are falling over dead even if they are entering illegally many of whom are promised jobs when they get here. I don't get how or when we lost our compassion for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 There are Federal installations all over the place that will shoot people for tresspassing or walkingon thier grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 "I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink" Make all the excuses you want people. It's not me you have to explain your positions to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 There are Federal installations all over the place that will shoot people for tresspassing or walkingon thier grass. Tell ya what, next time someone walks on your lawn go ahead and shoot them...we'll see you in 15 to 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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