TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 This would certainly be confusing. Forgetting Campbell for a second (even though he's our incumbent starting QB)...what about Brennan? That's not a joke...we have him here learning the system, taking reps, and now both he AND Campbell will essentially be pushed aside for the latest and greatest rookie QB? I could definitely understand if a FO becomes disenchanted with a QB. It happens. And, if both our backups were old, then fine, draft his replacement. But, in theory, we've had Campbell's replacement on the roster for a year now. Ideally, I'd love Campbell to take the reins and succeed. If he can't, I'd like to see Colt be the guy. If we already know that both those guys can't do it (impossible), then Sanchez is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Mark Sanchez = David Carr/Alex Smith Seems to me that Campbell is approaching Carr territory, honestly. "Give him more time. Give him a line! He needs a wideout! Ok, he needs TWO wideouts!" etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzhi Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 This would certainly be confusing. Forgetting Campbell for a second (even though he's our incumbent starting QB)...what about Brennan? That's not a joke...we have him here learning the system, taking reps, and now both he AND Campbell will essentially be pushed aside for the latest and greatest rookie QB?I could definitely understand if a FO becomes disenchanted with a QB. It happens. And, if both our backups were old, then fine, draft his replacement. But, in theory, we've had Campbell's replacement on the roster for a year now. Ideally, I'd love Campbell to take the reins and succeed. If he can't, I'd like to see Colt be the guy. If we already know that both those guys can't do it (impossible), then Sanchez is fine. Colt is a 6th rd draftee. He doesn't deserve anything. He's lucky have made the team. Only way he gets the chance if the starting QB gets hurt and stars while filling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Seems to me that Campbell is approaching Carr territory, honestly. "Give him more time. Give him a line! He needs a wideout! Ok, he needs TWO wideouts!" etc etc Hmmmm. That sounds familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Sanchez has 16 total starts. History tells us that QB's do much better with that senior year of seasoning also. I really hope we don't go for him. This goes along with my post a little while back about staying away from workout warriors and sticking to college game tape for the most part. He was decent at USC, but he also had a great surrounding cast and a very good defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I firmly believe that this is a smoke screen for other teams interested to move up and trade with the Redskins. They were 15 minutes away from getting Jay Cutler, so that should tell you all you need to know. They are going to do something at QB, because they have no faith in JC nor do I. We would be better off in 2009 with JC instead of a rookie QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 **** this ****. Draft an offensive lineman and leave the pretty positions alone. You've had to have learned by now, front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Seems to me that Campbell is approaching Carr territory, honestly. "Give him more time. Give him a line! He needs a wideout! Ok, he needs TWO wideouts!" etc etc Well maybe if we actually gave him a line, that excuse wouldn't be applicable. Sadly, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 It is standard operating procedure with the Redskins that where there is smoke, there is fire, involving the Redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Colt is a 6th rd draftee. He doesn't deserve anything. He's lucky have made the team. Only way he gets the chance if the starting QB gets hurt and stars while filling in. I never said he deserved anything. I'm talking more about our program and philosophy. If Colt wasn't going to be your QB-in-waiting, then you might as well have two experienced backups. It makes no sense to have a player on your roster who can't play immediately unless you have a long-term plan for that player. So either, a) he is considered a potential starting QB down the road or we wasted a roster spot with him last year. If we draft Sanchez, I would like to go ahead and have two vets on the roster as our other QBs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintrain Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 So there is a very real chance that Campbell will suck this year and be gone next? Then wouldn't it make sense to prepare for that chance (as it is the most important position on the team) just to be safe? Otherwise, if Campbell does bomb and we wait until NEXT year to pick one up, that's just delaying our progress by an entire year. What would make anyone believe that Campbell will 'suck' or 'bomb' this year? What's your definition of 'sucking' or 'bombing'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 If JLC is reporting it, then it definitely won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocampo Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The FO does not show JC any respect, Are they trying to get him to snap. Even the guys on this board that want a open COMP at QB don't like to see a class act like JC being treated like this. I wonder if JZ has anything to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinWill Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 **** this ****. Draft an offensive lineman and leave the pretty positions alone. You've had to have learned by now, front office. The pretty positions is what wins football games. The signal caller is the most important position on the team, make no mistake about that. Unfortunately, JC is not the answer and we do not need another season to realize this. Again, if Sanchez is there at 13 there should be no hesitation on the pick. An OL can't make JC a better QB, he lacks the awareness, pocket presence that is required of the position. I'm no expert but this is what I have witnessed the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 As someone who watched every USC game... ... this would be an unbelievable roll of the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzhi Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I never said he deserved anything. I'm talking more about our program and philosophy. If Colt wasn't going to be your QB-in-waiting, then you might as well have two experienced backups. It makes no sense to have a player on your roster who can't play immediately unless you have a long-term plan for that player. So either, a) he is considered a potential starting QB down the road or we wasted a roster spot with him last year. If we draft Sanchez, I would like to go ahead and have two vets on the roster as our other QBs... 6th rd QBs are drafted to be cheap backups. If they ever become a good starting QB (after many years on the bench learning & the starting QB hurt), you hit the lottery jackpot. This is the reason why Colt will not be the answer in the short term or ever. If we draft Sanchez, you want vet (2nd string) and young guy learning too (3rd string). Why. Because vet will get old / demand more $$$ / release, young guy takes his place, we draft another late rd backup and cycle repeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0mega Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The pretty positions is what wins football games. The signal caller is the most important position on the team, make no mistake about that. Unfortunately, JC is not the answer and we do not need another season to realize this. Again, if Sanchez is there at 13 there should be no hesitation on the pick. An OL can't make JC a better QB, he lacks the awareness, pocket presence that is required of the position. I'm no expert but this is what I have witnessed the last couple of years. I stopped reading after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The pretty positions is what wins football games. The signal caller is the most important position on the team, make no mistake about that. Unfortunately, JC is not the answer and we do not need another season to realize this. Again, if Sanchez is there at 13 there should be no hesitation on the pick. An OL can't make JC a better QB, he lacks the awareness, pocket presence that is required of the position. I'm no expert but this is what I have witnessed the last couple of years. I disagree. When Flacco gets to the AFC Championship game, Dilfer wins a Super Bowl, etc. I will not agree that QBs, RBs, and WRs are what wins games or championships. You need solid lines (both O and D) in order to put your "pretty" players into good positions. Think about it...a good OL helps EVERYONE else on offense: -Protects the QB -Gives the RB running lanes -Gives the WRs time to break free A good DL helps EVERYONE else on defense: -Opens up attack lanes and keeps blockers off of LBs -Force QBs into quick throws helping DBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dick Edds Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I firmly believe that this is a smoke screen for other teams interested to move up and trade with the Redskins. +1 ... if one of the top OL prospects is still on the board we will not draft Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningBuggs Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 It is standard operating procedure with the Redskins that where there is smoke, there is fire, involving the Redskins +1 Absolutely...this is NO smokescreen. Skins may not get Sanchez, but the interest in him is there. FO doesn't do smokescreens. They play their cards face up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 What would make anyone believe that Campbell will 'suck' or 'bomb' this year? What's your definition of 'sucking' or 'bombing'? A repeat of last year, no improvement, 13 TD's. That would be suck. I have seen nothing that makes me think this year will be any better; especially considering his degression in the second half of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzhi Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I disagree. When Flacco gets to the AFC Championship game, Dilfer wins a Super Bowl, etc. I will not agree that QBs, RBs, and WRs are what wins games or championships. You need solid lines (both O and D) in order to put your "pretty" players into good positions. Think about it...a good OL helps EVERYONE else on offense: -Protects the QB -Gives the RB running lanes -Gives the WRs time to break free A good DL helps EVERYONE else on defense: -Opens up attack lanes and keeps blockers off of LBs -Force QBs into quick throws helping DBs If you want, one and done. You are correct, but if you want to be constantly in SB run, you need elite franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinWill Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I disagree. When Flacco gets to the AFC Championship game, Dilfer wins a Super Bowl, etc. I will not agree that QBs, RBs, and WRs are what wins games or championships. You need solid lines (both O and D) in order to put your "pretty" players into good positions. Think about it...a good OL helps EVERYONE else on offense: -Protects the QB -Gives the RB running lanes -Gives the WRs time to break free A good DL helps EVERYONE else on defense: -Opens up attack lanes and keeps blockers off of LBs -Force QBs into quick throws helping DBs Yes, I agree with all of the above points. However, we can look at the colts OL as an example of the "pretty" player. Peyton Manning makes that OL look good, not the other way around. All I am saying is that we are a QB away from taking the next step. By the way, Dilfer was an example of a great defense. Again, this is just my opinion, don't profess to be an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I firmly believe that this is a smoke screen for other teams interested to move up and trade with the Redskins. If teams were so convinced the Redskins are in love with Sanchez, wouldn't it compell them to jump ahead of the Redskins and trade with another team? Otherwise they are banking on him falling at 13 and the Skins fall out of love with him for the right deal. If it were me, I'd look to jump ahead of the Skins reading this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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