Ernie5 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm not investing too much into this thought. I would have to see the deals they were offered at other places to believe they actually want to be here more than getting their money. Our team has been spoon fed and they have been ****y and all it has done is led to us losing games. I have a feeling this will be repeated again and again. Agreed. It's a nice sentiment -- the thing about the money and I believe it, more or less -- but there is a PR angle, so everything must be taken with a grain or two. On the last point, I actually disagree with this point a little. The team has always worked very hard (w/middling results) and we have a very low numbskull factor compared to the rest of the league. All pro football players exhibit some form of ****iness, I'm sure, but I don't see an unusual amount on the Redskins. Sometimes I wouldn't mind seeing a little more (like late in games). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 980's got me crackin up!Dr Evil : "One hundred......MILLION........DOLLARS!!" Hahahaha :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 If this is true then I am even happier. I like both of these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I would like to know which are these teams and what kind of contract did they put up on the table ? (6 out of 32 , not so many). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Why not? They should take as much money as the market allows while still being in an environment that they feel they can thrive in. Hall learned his lesson with that whole Oakland fiasco. From what I've read Hall signed when he learned that Al was probably coming on board. He wanted to play behind what he thought would be a productive DL. His odds of leading the league in Ints just went up exponentially. Carlos put his hands on enough balls with our old DL to have 7 or 8 Ints. I completely agree with you on this. I got into an arguement with my wife about this exact point. A star player has about a 10-12 year career. I would make sure I was making as much as I could, however, if the choices were close, say a million to go to the Raiders for 7 years, or a million less to go play for the Patriots or Steelers for 7 years, I' definitely go with less money. Though, with the Bucs and Skins, I don't think it's that drastic a choice. Adam Schefter is anti-Redskin, I don't care what anyone says. He was arguing pretty loudly that Art Monk should never get into the HoF. He's also bashed our FO for lots of moves, perhaps rightly so, but that just makes me believe him more. Vinny on the other hand....uh no, nope I don't believe Vinny. I would have a hard time believing Vinny in anything. For example, if he were trying to convince me the Easter Bunny were real and the Easter Bunny was standing right next to him with a basket off eggs, I'd go have myself checked into a mental institute before I'd believe Vinny. If this is true, I feel like our D will be unstoppable next year. I'm also going to be in fetal position when our Offense takes the field because....uh help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I don't think anyone else offered more money. Then again Tampa is kinda starting all over, so maybe he didn't want to be a part of a rebuikding team. Tampa probably offered him more total dollars throughout the tenure of his contract. Bugeyes is leaving out that the 'Skins probably offered him more guaranteed dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimetimeSkins26 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Cooley4President I disagree. If ur a player and lets say Philly offers you 15 mil and Detroit offers u 17 mil wouldnt u think about that and say yes I'll be giving up 2 million but i will be playing for a team that is usually in the playoffs with Philly. If I sign with Detroit its gonna be a long season and a long career. So I definitely think guys look at the team also and not just the money. Nobody likes to lose. I dont care how much money u make. If u hate going to work the money wont make it all better. Washington and Detroit are two different teams. You go to the Redskins and fail your career is not over. You go to Detroit and fail, your career is over. Otherwise, you got two equal teams like the Redskins and Bucs. You go for the one with the higher cash offer. That is why I doubt the Bucs offered more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxford Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I am not a fan of Vinny and how tight he is with Snyder. I mean who wants "Sarge" from "Kindergarten Ninja" as their de facto GM? I would love to try to get him to autograph a VHS copy of the movie and see what he does ( I doubt such a quality film is on DVD). But still, look at the Skins over the last several years compared to back in the 90's and early 00's. The Skins are a far better team than they were back then. We are a playoff caliber team and of course we have holes, but so do all teams. The fact remains when it comes to how players will perform it is all a gamble, even on the best ones. You go after the best players you can get in the draft and free agency and hope for the best. At least the Skins do that. Now lets get the OLine some new bodies and lets get back to the playoffs. Of course I want a Super Bowl as do all Skins fans but that is built in stages. It is built with coaches and players. I think we have solid coaching ( No more WR screens with no blockers though please!) and we have a good overall squad. Lets get back to the playoffs and win!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherick Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 If that is true, and we'll only know it when the details of the contracts offered come out, then this note puts a big smile on my face, because it means they believe the team can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Championship!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 does this mean we can let jason taylor leave and sign some olineman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wow, Tampa Bay was going to offer him more money? Do you have a link or source for that? That does make me feel better though, that someone would have offered him more than us. I hope this signing pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Walton Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Anyone that believes this statement in its' entirety....I have a bridge I can sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wow, Tampa Bay was going to offer him more money? Do you have a link or source for that? That does make me feel better though, that someone would have offered him more than us. I hope this signing pans out. they might have offered more, but theres no way another team offered that much guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 they might have offered more, but theres no way another team offered that much guaranteed money. We don't know that. I wonder if there was some synergy between Hall and he . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSkins Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 yeah right, everyone comes to ride the Snyder gravy train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 How much do you guys think Cornelius Griffen has left in him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfor4 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm very interested in what we will do with that OLB spot vacated by Marcus. That should be our next move shouldnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Who cares if a few fans don't believe other teams were or were not offering more? Lets say Tampon which cleared cap space didn't want to pursue AH? It just shows that teams while they have more cap space to spend will not do what it takes to make themselves contenders. Those cheapskate teams better hope their young pro bowl types are not eligible for free agency in 2010 if we actually have a cap free year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 When players say that they aren't signing for the money, it means one thing. It's all about the money. The guaranteed money in these contracts is staggering. The other offers may have had more of a fake number, but my guess is no one matched the guaranteed figures. As someone funnier than me said, the next time Haynesworth stomps on some dude's chest, he will be wearing solid gold shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsWizCubsDukes Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I don't buy it for a second. Don't care what was reported and certainly don't care what Vinny said (he's lied to the fans before, remember his off-hand recollections of the stats of players we've passed on?). Plain and simple, players go where they go for the money. Can't blame them, don't expect anything else. Bottom line, players come to the Redskins because they know they get paid. Big time up front guaranteed money, and just as important, back end guaranteed money. Big money guys like Portis, Samuels, etc get their contracts restructured almost every single year thus guaranteeing the large sums of backloaded deals that lots of players never see. Players know that we're tight on the cap every year so their base salaries get converted to bonuses so they can be spread out over a longer period. Both of them have stated that they wanted to stay near there families in the past. I mean when you are making over 54 million dollars I would be willing to take a small pay cut to choose my location. Heck, I would take a small paycut to be able to do that with my job today even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 My friend works for XM radio and one of his coworkers is on the Buccaneers radio team. He told him that their final offer was only 70 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I don't believe this for one second. It's an effort to deflect the routine 'overspending' charge that is constantly leveled at us by fans AND the media. It's like the wife who buys the 50% off God-awful dress for $300. "Honey, I just saved $300." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 What I always find amazing is how it was never about the money after they get what they wanted, or even more. It was always just about playing football and wanting to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 "It's not about the money" - Dion Sanders, you know which press conference :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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