Dark Acre Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Detroit will not hold onto the first pick and if they somehow do, it'll have to be a safe pick, not a QB who is not "all-that". They got burned with 2 of their 3 WR picks and as the first team to go 0-16, they can't afford to blow the 1st pick. In fact, I don't see either Stafford or Sanchez going top 10, and they could well pull an Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Orakpo is the kind of "workout warrior" type whose stock will rise after the combine. Not to say that he isn't a good player, but after the combine he will be a lock to go top 10. Which will be good for us as its pushes someone from the top-10 down. As for Orakpo, you know I think he could be good. He reminds me of a quicker Mathias Kiwanuka and if he can legitamitely play SLB, then I'm down for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 No punter in the first round? And no TE for us either? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp redskin Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Detroit will not hold onto the first pick and if they somehow do, it'll have to be a safe pick, not a QB who is not "all-that". They got burned with 2 of their 3 WR picks and as the first team to go 0-16, they can't afford to blow the 1st pick. In fact, I don't see either Stafford or Sanchez going top 10, and they could well pull an Aaron Rodgers. There is no way Stafford doesn't go in the top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenMgr Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Jason Reid on Comcast Sportsnet Tuesday night declared that the Skins are leaning heavily to trading down and out of the first round for more picks. According to him, Snyder and Vinny want to spend as little as possible on free agents this offseason and focus more on getting more in the draft. So many of these mocks may be for moot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hell I'd take Orakpo, he's a monster that can stop the run and rush the passer....plus he benches like 515. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINchiefer Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 if only the Redskins could click the link and give back Jason Taylor... :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I think you are dead on ... we need a pocket collapsing DT. So why did we generate a pass rush from Andre Carter last season, then? There was ONE piece missing on our DLine this season. Is it necessary we draft a DT high? I don't know, but I know the guy missing wasn't a DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Jason Reid on Comcast Sportsnet Tuesday night declared that the Skins are leaning heavily to trading down and out of the first round for more picks. According to him, Snyder and Vinny want to spend as little as possible on free agents this offseason and focus more on getting more in the draft. In other words, "We have no cap space because of years of bad decisions". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 No DE's. If he's a tweener, he's a wasted pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenMgr Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 In other words, "We have no cap space because of years of bad decisions". Actually, Jason Reid also mentioned that the Skins would begin cutting/trimming the roster on Monday Feb 9th. With this, they will be satisfactorily under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCREDSKINS Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 This would be a great choice as would Michael Oher. If opportunity presents itself to trade down and still get Oher I'd think about it but this pick must a pass rusher or a standout offensive tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 We've always passed on tweener DEs (3-4 OLBs) because they don't fit our system, but suddenly that is going to change? We have speed guys on the edges, they simply weren't getting to the QB as often because they had no help in the middle. There was little to no pocket collapse, and QBs were able to step up in the pocket a lot against us this past season. Our roster already has a bunch of DEs on it, but we have 2 DTs who will go to FA unless we re-sign them. I sooner see us landing DT Perry or LBer Mauluga if either is there, before we ever take a tweener. In all likelihood though we will trade down, so I'd keep my eye on the bottom 10 of the first round and see who is projected to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 So why did we generate a pass rush from Andre Carter last season, then?There was ONE piece missing on our DLine this season. Is it necessary we draft a DT high? I don't know, but I know the guy missing wasn't a DT I would say that the DT play this past year regressed from the year before. I'm not gonna attribute it to one player per se, but I also think that Daniels held his own on the other side of the field as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Orakpo really didn't do anything in the championship game, if he couldn't shine in the biggest game of his life on the college level where does that leave him on the pro level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 He's only about 260-265, at his weight he's best suited to play right end, which is where we have Carter already. If he was 20 pounds heavier and could play left end, great. But that's not the case. Squat 600+ Bench 500+ Power Clean, 380!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is only 260-265lbs!!??:notworthy Man Please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Squat 600+ Bench 500+ Power Clean, 380!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is only 260-265lbs!!??:notworthy Man Please!! Beware of the workout warrior.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0...t-No--13-.html Click link for entire article Who will the Redskins pick at No. 13? February 3, 2009 Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley In Todd McShay's latest mock, the Redskins are still taking Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. Tough to go wrong here. I've seen the guy in play in person at least four times in college. He's an excellent pass-rusher and he's becoming much better against the run. He could start immediately for the Redskins. And that's what they'll need him to do. I know that Vinny Cerrato would love for offensive tackle Eugene Monroe (Virginia) to slip to No. 13, but it's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCnDaHouse Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 If we can't get a stud OL or DL I'd rather us trade down and get a couple 2nd round picks. Just hope they use them wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzwiz Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Orakpo really didn't do anything in the championship game' date=' if he couldn't shine in the biggest game of his life on the college level where does that leave him on the pro level?[/quote']I sorta agree. I personally think that there will be a lot of busts at the top of this draft. Hopefully I'm wrong and the sinz dont end up with one. And I dont believe OT is the biggest need. I think the front 7 on D is a bigger need and can the redskins please get somebody to produce at WR other than Moss!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 No DE's. If he's a tweener, he's a wasted pick. If you've seen Orakpo, he's no tweener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Kiper was asked last week on the radio, what position should the Skins pick and what have they not been doing right in the draft over the years. His answer was the same for both questions: they need to pick a pass rusher and their failure is not drafting one. He went on to say that he thought the elite atttactive OL will be gone by the 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Kiper was asked last week on the radio, what position should the Skins pick and what have they not been doing right in the draft over the years. His answer was the same for both questions: they need to pick a pass rusher and their failure is not drafting one. He went on to say that he thought the elite atttactive OL will be gone by the 13th. Yeah I was listening to that. I think he's right, I think the elite OTs will be gone by the 13th pick, if not I wouldn't mind seeing us take one of them but seriously, look at the teams that made it deep this year: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Tennessee, Philly, these are all teams that have a solid pass rush, even Arizona turned on the pass rush once postseason hit. You want to protect your QB and attack the other team's QB. As long as we address at least one of those things with our #13 overall I will be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I sorta agree. I personally think that there will be a lot of busts at the top of this draft. Hopefully I'm wrong and the sinz dont end up with one. And I dont believe OT is the biggest need. I think the front 7 on D is a bigger need and can the redskins please get somebody to produce at WR other than Moss!! The WR dice was cast last year - we have to hope one or both of Kelly or Thomas find their feet and can nail down the starting spot next to Moss and give us production. For better or worse we are set at the skill positions on offense - we now need to patch up the O Line so we can see if the toys we have work. Finding a starter at RT who is better in pass protection than Jansen and better at run blocking than Heyer is essential. We also have to find a replacment for Kendal who was solid last year but is right at the end of his rope - maybe Reinbach can step up. Your right about the front 7. I would say we need a one gap type DT who can make plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage and get some pass rush as well. Washington is probably finished as a Redskin unless he takes a big pay cut and plays as a role player but anyway we need to find a new starter at SLB. Thats at leats 3 holes to fill and only one pick in the first two rounds so the best option is probably trading down. If we have to stick at #13 as most people have been saying we go BPA who is a DT, OT and LB. Looking at mocks (for what that is worth) it looks like th ebest 4 tackles will be gone by the time we get to #13 and a couple of stud DTs will be picked as well so it might be that the best value is at linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I would say that the DT play this past year regressed from the year before. I'm not gonna attribute it to one player per se, but I also think that Daniels held his own on the other side of the field as well. Not saying I disagree entirely about the DT play, but, what's your reasoning behind saying that? DT Cornelius Griffin 2008: 27 Total Tackles 1 Sack 2007: 42 Total Tackles 2 Sacks Advantage: 2007 DT Anthony Montgomery 2008: 23 Total Tackles 2 Sacks 2007: 42 Total Tackles 0 Sacks Advantage: 2008 DT Kedric Golston 2008: 28 Total Tackles 2 Sacks 2007: 11 Total Tackles 1 Sack Advantage: 2008 DE Andre Carter 2008: 37 Total Tackles 4 Sacks 2007: 55 Total Tackles 10 Sacks 4 Fumbles Advantage: 2007 DE Demetric Evans 2008: 33 Total Tackles 4 Sacks 2007: 25 Total Tackles 1 Sack 1 Fumble Advantage: 2008 Comparing these two next to each other, seeing how Taylor was Daniels replacement: DE Phillip Daniels 2008: N/A 2007: 37 Total Tackles 2 Sacks 4 Fumbles DE Jason Taylor 2008: 29 Total Tackles 4 Sacks 1 Fumble 2007: N/A Advantage: Phillip Daniels 2007 And that's not talking about the intagibles that Daniels brings to the line. He batted tons of balls and forced QBs into Andre Carter's pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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