Toe Jam Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 See here's the thing that gets most of us 20 something/30 something into the movie in the first place. We grew up watching Transformers. For me and others, it was our favorite cartoons as kids. We had the transformers toys. We ate it all up. So in a sense, seeing a Transformers movie is just like being a kid again.So yeah, we are nerds. But hell... if you are on the internet messaging other people about how much you love the Redskins, that makes you a nerd too. Hate to break it to everybody. There's no shame in being a nerd, no matter what type (this excludes Star Trek nerds). I see your and raise you a . Agreed. I've recently been messing around with a lot of computer stuff. My gf went out and got a shirt that says "I Love My Nerd"... because, well, I'm a mother****ing nerd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squatch66 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 if you want to see all the movie trailers from the super bowl... good quality too. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/super-bowl-movie-previews.html now they need to get crackin on that dam voltron movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Who was that big guy there at the end?Remember those transformer toys where there would be like 5 different guys and you could combine them to make on huge dude? Might as well throw that in the movie. Oh yeah... and the dynobots. Ok I'm going to geek out here a bit.. The first combiner was Devastator, which was made up of the constructicons. And I would love to see the DINObots in there, Grimlock is one of my favorite characters, I hated how the animated movie turned him into a babbling moron. I love Prime, I do, but lets get off his and megatron's nuts for a little bit and give the other transformers some screen time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 you're 100% right, we are all nerds about something. Nerds get good jobs and hot chicks when they're old.. Imma nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I agree with E33 in that the animated Transformers movie beats the crap out of the first live action one. I couldn't possibly care less about Megan Fox and what's her name or that kid who can't act. I was hoping they wouldn't even be in the new movie. Yes, the ladies are hot. I hope they do a hardcore lesbian porn flick together, but they have no place in a transformers movie. I just want to see Prime and Megatron fight. Will be cool to see the constructacons. Hopefully the new movie stars the actual Transformers instead of butthead kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Uhh.. this is a joke, right?Wow, I hope so. Right off the top of my head I can lay some out.The knife fight from WestSide Story, the scene from Network where Peter Finch is freaking out saying "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" or Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch. Wow. Yeah, transformers is great cinema. Eye of the beholder I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Shia is actually a great actor. The job he did in disturbia did it for me. So he gets typecast, who in hollywood doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentClinton07 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 He was arrested for it. Went on Leno (or maybe Letterman?) and was bragging about being drunk in public.He's an okay actor, sure. But I'd like to see him portray a character that's not close to him in real life. Holes, Transformers, Eagle Eye.. he doesn't have a great track record. Or maybe I'm just pissed he's closer to nailing Megan Fox than I will ever be. Step away from the haterade. On a serious note, I do understand where your coming from when you say that he's only played characters that he can relate to. But isn't that the point of casting? Who "fits" the role best? I thought he was amazing in Eagle Eye and Transformers, and good in disturbia. Didnt watch Holes. Plus Even Stevens was the shiznitttttttttttttt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The Michael Bay stuff doesn't hold a candle to the animated Transformers. Michael Bay really dumbed it down, which is a funny thing to say about a kids' cartoon -- but the cartoon actually explored the Transformers' struggles with their dual roles of protecting themselves and protecting humans. The Michael Bay movie was just a bunch of stupid action scenes punctuated by the occasional cut scene to advance the plot. Standard Michael Bay. With that said, the action scenes were beautiful and exciting. But for people who grew up seeing what the Transformers story was capable of, the movie fell very short of its potential. Long on visuals, painfully short on story. Imagine if the Batman franchise of the 1990s skipped the first three movies entirely and just waded right in with "Batman and Robin." That's what Bay did with "Transformers." So many basic failures: The too-long scene at Shia's house; the wasted government-agent subplot; Bumblebee being alternately really strong and then idiotically weak; Starscream and Megatron being amorphous-looking silver robots that you could hardly tell apart in action scenes; Megatron's thawing scene that could have been EPIC but instead got edited down to a microwave-dinner of destruction; the entire Air Force One stupidity... The list goes on and on. Even for an action movie, these things are disappointing. And it started out so well, with the attack scene and then the little details early on, like Barricade's quarterpanel inscription that reads "To Punish And Enslave" and the way Shia and Bumblebee link up with the whole "boy and his car" theme. Good stuff. But then the movie opens up into an overbroad smash-up. It's as if the writers got a lot of time to polish things up early in the movie, and then had to rush everything from the Shia's-house scene onwards. Oh, and Prime's little plot-twist with Megatron at the end... ugh. On the Steven Seagal scale the movie gets high marks. But on the Batman scale it was pretty mediocre. Maybe the second one will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Okay, Transformers the movie was an awesome cartoon movie back in the day. But it was a cartoon. No way they can pull that type of story off with a live action. I don't think it's wise to compare them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Okay, Transformers the movie was an awesome cartoon movie back in the day.But it was a cartoon. No way they can pull that type of story off with a live action. I don't think it's wise to compare them. Why not? In this age of CGI, the two are hardly distinguishable anymore. It could have been worse, but it could've been much better too. I think it would've been better to get a fan of the series to direct, than someone who had to be introduced to it from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Why not? In this age of CGI, the two are hardly distinguishable anymore. It could have been worse, but it could've been much better too.I think it would've been better to get a fan of the series to direct, than someone who had to be introduced to it from scratch. Think back to that movie. You had at least 4 different planets, one robot planet, etc... Too much CGI for a "live action". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Think back to that movie. You had at least 4 different planets, one robot planet, etc... Too much CGI for a "live action". Well, nobody's talking about remaking that movie in CGI. They're just comparing the overall plot arcs, story lines, and general quality of the two movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Think back to that movie. You had at least 4 different planets, one robot planet, etc... Too much CGI for a "live action". Transformers did have cybertron in it briefly. I think it could be done, it would just cost a lot to produce it-much more expensive than having scenes with sub-standard actors sponsored by Dan Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance04 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Im surprised at all the people who didnt like the first one. I thought it was awesome. Actually I dont even know anyone who didnt like it. go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Im surprised at all the people who didnt like the first one.I thought it was awesome. Actually I dont even know anyone who didnt like it. go figure At 22 I guess the cartoon was a little before your time. I was really young when it was on. I actually liked the movie but I wanted to love it. It's basically one of those situations where they changed too much. I thought even messing with what types of cars they were was going too far. Making it so they can transform into any car at any time is hurting. I wouldn't have had a problem with them being updated versions of the cars but some of them weren't even close. Bumblebee should have been a VW bug. It just isn't right that he is a camaro. And since when is megatron a badass jet? He's supposed to be a gun! They did get some guys right though IMO. Prime was cool and so was starscream. Jazz was close enough but he pretty much died like a beyotch which was disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Season Please! Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 At 22 I guess the cartoon was a little before your time. I was really young when it was on. I actually liked the movie but I wanted to love it. It's basically one of those situations where they changed too much. I thought even messing with what types of cars they were was going too far. Making it so they can transform into any car at any time is hurting. I wouldn't have had a problem with them being updated versions of the cars but some of them weren't even close. Bumblebee should have been a VW bug. It just isn't right that he is a camaro. And since when is megatron a badass jet? He's supposed to be a gun! They did get some guys right though IMO. Prime was cool and so was starscream. Jazz was close enough but he pretty much died like a beyotch which was disappointing. I really did not mind Bumblebee not beeing a bug. Their is NOTHING cool or exciting about a VW bug. I do understand why they made magatron a jet. How do they explain one of the biggest bots turning into a gun that another deceptacon can hold? Easy in a cartoon, but not in "real life". I was disapointed in Prime in some areas and loved others. I like that he was not a flat nosed truck. Made him look better I think, but I know many were unhappy with the change. I did not like the fact that he was a ***** compaired to megatron. That really pissed me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I really did not mind Bumblebee not beeing a bug. Their is NOTHING cool or exciting about a VW bug. That's true but not everyone is supposed to be a badass. The dynamic is what makes the badasses that much more badass. Anyway, I get the feeling the decision to make bumblebee a bug had more to do with sponsorships than writers. I do understand why they made magatron a jet. How do they explain one of the biggest bots turning into a gun that another deceptacon can hold? Easy in a cartoon, but not in "real life". Well I dunno. Perhaps make him heavy artillery or something. LOL that was one of the biggest nonsensical attributes of the cartoon though. He wasn't even a big gun, he was a freakin hand gun lol! I was disapointed in Prime in some areas and loved others. I like that he was not a flat nosed truck. Made him look better I think, but I know many were unhappy with the change. I've never been a fan of cab-over jobs. I don't even think they make them anymore. I was fine with that. I did not like the fact that he was a ***** compaired to megatron. That really pissed me off Me too. They should have been more evenly matched. Although it was pretty badass when prime decapitated that one guy. Where the hell was that sword for the whole megatron fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 They should have been more evenly matched. Although it was pretty badass when prime decapitated that one guy. Where the hell was that sword for the whole megatron fight? It wasn't a sword, it was his axe. Prime was a bit of a wimp in the comics which seems to have provided more inspiration for the movie than the cartoons did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I loved everything about the original Transformers. I remember getting home from school when I was in the 4th grade anticipating the first episode. They had been hyping the cartoon for weeks. After I saw "More than Meets the Eye," I don't think I missed more than a handful of episodes until the end of what is now known as G-1. I never really watched any of the versions that aired after the original. With that said, if you watch the original cartoons now. There were some serious plot question marks. Take for example, how everytime Optimus Prime transforms...no matter where he was...his trailer showed up and attached itself. It was unrealistic for some people to expect a 2007 Transformers live-action movie to not take liberties with the subject matter. I think the best thing about the Bay movie, is that it made you believe that something like this could be possible, and not just a cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Prime was a bit of a wimp in the comics which seems to have provided more inspiration for the movie than the cartoons did. I don't think he's as much of a wimp, as I think it is he clearly hates violence. I think he is meant to be seen as a reluctant warrior, fighting a battle he has no choice but to fight. Even if it's against his nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't think he's as much of a wimp, as I think it is he clearly hates violence. I think he is meant to be seen as a reluctant warrior, fighting a battle he has no choice but to fight. Even if it's against his nature. I was just using wimp as a substitute for the expletive that was used to describe him earlier. And before I get any grief, I'm not a wimp for not wanting to use cuss words... I'm a reluctant warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 With that said, if you watch the original cartoons now. There were some serious plot question marks. Take for example, how everytime Optimus Prime transforms...no matter where he was...his trailer showed up and attached itself. yeah, that just didn't make any sense at all. Even when I was 6. It was unrealistic for some people to expect a 2007 Transformers live-action movie to not take liberties with the subject matter. I think the best thing about the Bay movie, is that it made you believe that something like this could be possible, and not just a cartoon I guess they had to do something. What are the chances that an alien robot would just so happen to look like a car? Not sure how or if this was ever addressed in the cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I was happy with it. There were reasons why some of the things weren't the same. 1) The guy who did the voice for the original Starscream and Cobra Commander (yes, they were the same guy), Chris Latta died in 1994 of a cerebral hemmorage. 2) Bumblebee couldn't be a bug in this one because VW would not give the studio the rights to using him as a bug. Besides, when Bumblebee runs his upgrade, what self respecting teen - mid twenties straight man would drive a new beetle? 3) Megatron had more to do with perceptions and critics. If he were to have turned into a handgun people would b**** because he didn't stay relatively the same size as well as the stigma that American TV and cinema has put on the hand gun. I wounder if they delve into the Megatron Starscream rift more in Rise of the Fallen? They alluded to it in the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Longer, better Trailer up now at the official site. Whoever that big **** is, he is whuppin some ass. http://www.transformersmovie.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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