BAFGA Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah, just disregard everything they say because not only are they wrong, they LIE!!!!!11 The amount of denial around here about problems on this team is overwhelming. I can't see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Come on, PFT is extremely resourceful. I am dead serious, they are like my number 1 news resource. If they say DT is in the doghouse, then I am scared. I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic, because if you are not then you sure fooled me, but they are actually a very reputable site. Several pundits endorse PFT a lot like Dan Pantrick. Its not just some home made site. In this instance, they are just reporting what the post has reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg28daman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 His first season is barely over. He has a lot of time to mature if this is even true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 His first season is barely over. He has a lot of time to mature if this is even true. Exactly. Not to mention JLC reported it. I would agree it bears watching, but lets let it play out, thats all we can do at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 this is complete and utter bush league journalism at its finest. Zorn does not BS the media, he tells it like it is. DT will be fine and is improving, he is hungry to be a starter and to get better. This is a complete joke of an article and I feel dumber for having read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 A PFT article that uses JLC as a source....now there's the perfect storm of credibility. :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I could tell there was something wrong with this guy because he excessively celebrated the presence of himself on the camera after almost any catch he made, even very short ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I liked the flashes I saw out of Thomas. I think he can be a play maker in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'm gonna go on a limb and say Malcolm Kelly will be our #2 WR next year. He's got more than enough natural talent to be the #1 wide out. Outstanding ability in college, and, by all accounts, consistantly the best receiver in practice. But then there's his knees, sighs. As for Thomas..... Man alive dude. You've what, a 10 year or so career? If you can't sacrifice 10 years out of your life to total dedication to your craft, for riches most of us can only dream about, why are you in this profession? You've everything going for you man, dedicate yourself, cut out the party life ****, and the future's yours. I never expected the young guys to be a big influence in their first season, wide outs rarely are; but the one thing I DID expect, of them or ANY other player wearing the burgundy and gold, is 100% commitment to the Redskins. Here's praying the penny drops and Thomas finaly gets that this off season, or else we'll be looking yet again at receiver come the 2010 draft. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I don't know, seemed to me like he always worked hard out there. Route running might not be too sharp as of yet, but he busted his ass on special teams, and he just didn't get many passes thrown his way when he was put on the field. I'm not ready to deem him a bust quite yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb mul-key Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 way to go vinny and why can't bolno and swanson get some good stuff going about our team...our fo is poor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Some of you guys kill me. Its always Vinnys fault. Well, sometimes you can't believe everything you read. The fact is that Thomas started to come on late in the season. Give him a chance. http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Thomas_Eager_to_Prove_His_Worth_31000.jsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Redskins didn't do a very effective job in evaluating Thomas in the pre-draft interviews. He was raw in terms of on-field experience but devastating was his level of immaturity and arrogance based on that one season of productivity at Michigan State. That shoud have been picked up on by the talent evaluators here. Meanwhile the Broncos, Eagles, Rams all drafted receivers in the second round that DID work hard to make their transition to the NFL successful and who WERE productive in Year 1. If I were the Redskins I probably would have drafted Phillip Merling with the first pick at DE and not traded out of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This is the exact reason why picking a QB and/or a WR in the draft early is always a huge risk. I still think it is better to waste the money on a quality Free agent WR than waste a pick in the draft on a WR, unless they're like Crabtree or Calvin Johnson, picking a reciever IMO is a waste. I like Davis and it looks like he's going to be a solid pick up at TE, Kelly and Thomas have shown NOTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/10/devin-thomas-in-skins-doghouse/DEVIN THOMAS IN SKINS’ DOGHOUSE? Posted by Aaron Wilson on January 10, 2009, 7:50 a.m. EST It’s safe to say that Washington Redskins wide receiver Devin Thomas didn’t have a banner rookie season, on or off the field, according to this scathing postseason review from the Washington Post that paints a picture of the former Michigan State star as possibly destined for Bust City. The article portrays Thomas as having a “surly” attitude and a “swagger” unjustified by his unproductive performance, going on to say that he’s more enamored of making his presence felt on the D.C. nightlife scene than in dedicating himself to realizing his potential. Besides apparently not having his head on straight, according to Redskins beat writer Jason La Confora, Thomas failed to run precise routes, didn’t inspire confidence in general from the quarterbacks, and basically just failed completely to develop into any kind of a deep threat despite his obvious physical gifts as a swift 6-foot-2, 220-pounder. The future outlook definitely doesn’t sound promising since Thomas has already talked about wanting to take a break from the rigors of the NFL during the offseason, a stance that the Post calls “alarming.” Thomas played in all 16 games with only one start, catching just 15 passes for 120 yards and an 8.0 average per reception. In contrast, fellow first-year wideout Malcolm Kelly, who has been extremely injury-prone with chronically bad knees, is described as “well-liked” and hard-working. Watch out OP, I posted an article similar to this one a few days ago and rec'd an NNT. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekc4 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Don't worry, he'll be a superstar...on the next team he joins. The Redskins isn't exactly a nurturing environment for young players, considering they never seem to have very many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'll say the same thing I've said since day one: Devin Thomas = Taylor Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnb123 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Redskins didn't do a very effective job in evaluating Thomas in the pre-draft interviews.He was raw in terms of on-field experience but devastating was his level of immaturity and arrogance based on that one season of productivity at Michigan State. That shoud have been picked up on by the talent evaluators here. Meanwhile the Broncos, Eagles, Rams all drafted receivers in the second round that DID work hard to make their transition to the NFL successful and who WERE productive in Year 1. If I were the Redskins I probably would have drafted Phillip Merling with the first pick at DE and not traded out of the first round. Ah, what could have been if our staff wasn't stupid in thinking we were a couple of playmakers away: 2008: 1st: Merling (no need for JT trade) 2nd: OL/DL/Maybe even Kelly If we had waited until the 2009 draft to get a WR we could have gotten CRABTREE and still had a 2nd for OL/DL- and a 6th or whatever it was from the idiotic Erasmus James trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Emrys Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 According to Zorn, Thomas was making strides by season's end. So maybe JLC is just voicing his characteristically bleak depictions of things, or maybe he's right. The truth, I’m sure, lies somewhere in between. When did he say this? Do you have a link and specific source? I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember Zorn praising Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I guess that explains why he hasn't been out there in a lot during the season. You have to be able to trust that the WR will make plays. He did make a couple of decent plays,but he also made a lot of mistakes. Running shallow routes, committing offensive PI, and having a couple of drops when thrown to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 OH NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 When did he say this? Do you have a link and specific source? I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember Zorn praising Thomas. Zorn is only one component of this. If the other players who work with him and see that he is not putting in the necesary work to get things done, then there should be a concern as to how his development is coming. Besides Zorn maybe softshoeing it for Thomas, as Zorn has had problems with calling out players as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 this is complete and utter bush league journalism at its finest. Zorn does not BS the media, he tells it like it is.DT will be fine and is improving, he is hungry to be a starter and to get better. This is a complete joke of an article and I feel dumber for having read it. I have to agree with this assessment. Although the reports about Thomas are disturbing, I do have a lot of trust in Zorn as a straight-shooter. He talked about problems with the young receivers earlier in the season. And then he talked about their improvement toward the end of the season. I was willing to give them 2 to 3 years to produce, as I would with any receiver. If the article is to be believed, the most disturbing aspect of the article is that DS and Vinny overruled their own staff to get Kelly. Why do you hire people to give you their advice and then not use it? It's just another sad example of DS sticking his fingers in the pie. I thought the stupid draft choices were all Vinny and that DS had learned to stay out of it. Fantasy League Dan is still picking the team. Sad that I find that more believeable than the rest of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The media is lying and the coaches are telling us the truth about what is wrong. It really surprises me how many adults believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 if you listen to all the interviews of redskins players thru this year, you get the feeling that people aren't very fond of devin thomas... people rave about kelly and davis, but no one really ever has anything positive to say about thomasas a teammate, you're inclined to hype up ur fellow teammates, and the fact that nobody has anything good to say about thomas speaks volumes =( Because Davis and Kelly got very limited PT. You rarely heard any negative comments about DT (and then in a general way that almost always included Kelly). He got PT in every game this season and had pretty much taken over the three spot by the end of the season. We know for a FACT that he wanted to take over punt return duties but the offense wanted him more. We know for a FACT that his playing time increased over the season, especially with the offense. We know for a FACT that Zorn confidence in Devin has gone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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