CRobi21 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 God we are torturing ourselves. Taylor is gone and will never come back. He was my favorite Redskins ever and probably always will be but we have to move on. We have Landry now who is playing great football and Horton is amazing everyone. Time to talk about them and let Taylor rest in the past. The OP is doing exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megared Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 You can't compare them because Sean Taylor's first two years he wasn't in deep coverage. He had Ryan Clark/Matt Bowen '04 Clark '05 Nobody '06 (year he took on more deep coverage) He was strictly deep in '07 Fact is, if Landry didn't get laid out by Jacobs we're not talking about their hitting abilities. Its a unquantifiable statement that holds no water...I mean do ya'll measure the force behind each hit? Let ya'll tell it, Taylor NEVER dropped an INT, never whiffed on a big hit, nor did he ever miss an assignment. The amazing thing about ST was that, at his size he could do the things that a prototypical free safety like Landry's expected to do in the open field. Taylor in '07, in ~8 1/2 games had 32 tackles, 1 FF, 5 INTs 9 PDs. Landry through 7 games has 29 tackles, 0 FF, 0 INTs, 6 PDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End2round2sanders Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I'm with you man, I'm tired of hearing people say "sean was better," when the fact is that we haven't seen enough of Laron to know who is better, and Taylor had not even reached his full potential yet. Impossible to draw accurate comparisons. The only thing we know for sure is that Sean Taylor was one of the most naturally gifted athletes ever to play for the Redskins. Can't really say the same for Laron, although he is stronger and faster than Taylor was. Maybe what he lacks in natural ability and size he can make up for with strength and speed, and maybe he can become a big hit threat like Sean was. Well if we go from big plays they have made in their first year and a half in the NFL and all the Sean Taylor tributes. You watch the Taylor hits n plays hes made way more then Landry.. Cmon weve seen Landrys hits, half of the best ones weve seen were flagged for late hits.. Taylor was already changing the way teams played us and you saw how he intimadated recievers..Landry is not Taylor and will not be. Its no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Stop feeling guilty about loving Laron Landry! The dude is a complete animal, and it's not disrespectful to compare his play to Sean's. Sean WANTED Landry to play like him. I don't know what games some of you have been watching, but Landry is developing into exactly what Sean was molding him into. I am very excited about the possibilities for dirty 30. It's possible we drafted the two best safeties the league has seen since Ronnie Lott. It's not at all disrespectful to Sean to appreciate what Landry does for this team. Their talents are very similar. Why do people think Landry is disappointing? Yeah, Sean got more monster hits, but that's mainly because receivers were making far more catches. Don't forget, we had Kenny Wright and Mike Rumph for MULTIPLE games. The receiver was making the catch at least half the time, and Sean was the only one who could stop anybody. Our corners are playing well right now, and that should not be held against Laron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I would be interested to see the rest of their workout numbers, but LaRon did post a much better 40 time and repped 225 ten times more. LaRon at combine: 4.35 40 time 37 1/2 inch vert 21 reps of 225 on the bench Sean at combine: 4.51 40 time 39 inch vert 11 reps on the bench The thing is though, Sean always played better than these numbers. I can't explain how he covered the field so well, but I think his weight gave him the force he needed to lay people out. I must say though, LaRon is a monster in the weight room. Combine #'s are great and all, but everyone who watched Taylor play knows that those numbers don't tell half the story. What made Sean who he was, was his utter disregard for his own well being. He played like a heat seeking missile. I'm not saying that Laron doesn't play that way, but there was a recent article where Laron basically said that the biggest thing that he learned from Taylor was what it meant to play intense.... You can't measure it, you can't coach it, you just have to have it. GW said that he had never met a player that he didn't have to motivate 1 ounce until he met Sean Taylor. Guys like that just don't come around too often, and you can't measure them by their numbers alone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 No one will ever be Sean Taylor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSkinsFanatic Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I would be interested to see the rest of their workout numbers, but LaRon did post a much better 40 time and repped 225 ten times more. LaRon at combine: 4.35 40 time 37 1/2 inch vert 21 reps of 225 on the bench Sean at combine: 4.51 40 time 39 inch vert 11 reps on the bench The thing is though, Sean always played better than these numbers. I can't explain how he covered the field so well, but I think his weight gave him the force he needed to lay people out. I must say though, LaRon is a monster in the weight room. Sean Taylor put that time up with a bad Hamstring, those numbers don't really tell the story of what kind of player he was. I love Landry but I know hes not another Sean. Sean was one of kind and prototypical. I remember when we first got him, he reminded me of a created player from a video game.:notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Agreed, comparing them is comparing Riggins to Portis. Two completely different styles.And no knock on Landry, he's my favorite current Skin, but Taylor was one of the greatest football players, let alone safeties, to ever play the game. This isn't a fair comparison at all. Sean Taylor was well on his way to becoming a perennial Pro Bowl player, IMO. But to call him one of the greatest football players ever to play the game is sentimentalism gone awry. What is sad is that he had the potential to be one of the best, but was cut down before being able to realize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I had the exact same thoughts yesterday watching the game and actually thought about making an identical post. Just watching some of LLs hits where the WRs hung onto the ball.... they would NOT have hung onto it if it was 21 laying the lumber.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I would be interested to see the rest of their workout numbers, but LaRon did post a much better 40 time and repped 225 ten times more. LaRon at combine: 4.35 40 time 37 1/2 inch vert 21 reps of 225 on the bench Sean at combine: 4.51 40 time 39 inch vert 11 reps on the bench The thing is though, Sean always played better than these numbers. I can't explain how he covered the field so well, but I think his weight gave him the force he needed to lay people out. I must say though, LaRon is a monster in the weight room. Definitely Landry is the better weight-room guy. I dunno what it was about Sean Taylor, it's like when he stepped onto the field there was just a fire in him that made him do incredible things. He had this natural ability to play football unlike anything else I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 no one will ever be sean taylor, which is part of why it is so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdaddydean Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I agree. I also think that while Landry doesn't make as many huge plays or big hits as Taylor, i think he might be a little more disciplined that Sean was. Sometimes Sean would screw up by going for a big hit. I haven't seen this out of LaRon much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area51 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yes, he is not Sean Taylor. No one will EVER be. LL, Taylor Mays...no one. We have to get over it. Laron is a great fundamental player who doesn't take much risks and does his job pretty damn well. He is not replacing Sean, and he never will. He is our new FS, and to keep comparing him to Sean is just unfair to him. Sean was, as mentioned, a once in a lifetime/decade athlete. But now he is gone. Let the man RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Taylor was a borderline Super Hero. Landry is just really good. Man, did we get to watch a thing of beauty for a few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Landry was never a ballhawk in college but he may be one of the most physically gifted and fundamentally sound/smart players we have. His name isn't called a lot because A. Opposing offenses don't test him often, and B. He rarely makes any mistakes. Sean Taylor had all of the physical gifts and then some, and was what you would consider a "ballhawk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 No offense but I get the feeling that some of you feel the need to diminish Laron in order to prop up Sean. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think the switch to FS has lessened Landry's impact on the game. When he played SS, he was closer to the line and had more tackles, sacks, etc. Right now it's as if he's nowhere to be found. Maybe that's a good thing, since it obviously means less teams are passing deep on us, but the switch has definitely taken him out of the picture. His hit on Braylon let us know that he's still Dirty 30, but this is Chris Horton's year to shine!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan328 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 LaRon Landry IS NOT Sean Taylor = NO ****!!!:insane: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30L Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 But having LaRon is still better than what most of the NFL offers at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Nice even thread. When they were playing last year I looked at ST as a HOF caliber player and LL as a pro bowl caliber player. Have to wait and see how LL continues to develop. And I agree, ST was a physical freak. At 6'2" 230+ he could hit like a LB yet still have incredible range. ST could also go up with the big receivers and win the ball. He was never muscled out of the way. I agree with the OP that watching him take chances was fun. As he got experience he got better about figuring out what the defense was doing. I will say that I thought LL picked up the defense faster that ST did and that it took ST a year or two to start to feel comfortable. I like Horton, but he is Horton and will never be ST. Reference dropping passes, ST didn't do it often, but the Green Bay game last year he should have had four instead of two. Lastly, I loved watching ST lay the smack on TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 He'll never be Sean Taylor...and??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Never see nanyone comparing Taylor to Landry. I miss Taylor alot. He was a great guy and a great fotball player. I can't help but imagine how good our defense would be if Sean Taylor was back there. We would be creating so many turnovers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Who really has even making comparisons? I haven't seen any. In any event bringing up ST invariably makes me sad. And on top of that can you even begin to imagine how awesome our secondary would be if he was still here?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin11 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Honestly, Taylor was an above average FS until his 4th season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 More Pertinent Question: Who will be better, Landry or Horton???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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