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Adviser says McCain helped create the BlackBerry

MIAMI—Move over, Al Gore. You may lay claim to the Internet, but John McCain helped create the BlackBerry.

At least that's the contention of a top McCain policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin. Waving his BlackBerry personal digital assistant and citing McCain's work as a senator, he told reporters Tuesday, "You're looking at the miracle that John McCain helped create."

McCain has acknowledged that he doesn't know how to use a computer and can't send e-mail, one of the BlackBerry's prime functions.

Holtz-Eakin's argument is similar to one advanced by Gore, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2000. Gore once boasted about "taking the initiative to create the Internet" through technological and educational policies. He later was mocked for claiming to have invented the Internet, although he never made such a claim.

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He later was mocked for claiming to have invented the Internet, although he never made such a claim.

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What's worse? An overzealous adviser claiming McCain did this or that idiot Gore claiming he invented the internet from his own mouth.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

I don't care what that article says. The fact is that Gore claimed "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet". You can talk semantics all you want about "creating" versus "inventing", but the bottom line is that Al Gore lied about his "impact" in the development of the internet. The backbone and many of the components of th internet were in place way before Gore was in Congress. Which proves that not only is he a hypocrite, but a liar too.

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I don't care what that article says. The fact is that Gore claimed "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet". You can talk semantics all you want about "creating" versus "inventing", but the bottom line is that Al Gore lied about his "impact" in the development of the internet. The backbone and many of the components of th internet were in place way before Gore was in Congress. Which proves that not only is he a hypocrite, but a liar too.
So you're saying that this McCain adviser is a liar too?
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I heard he delivered a truck load of tubes to the internet factory.

You can joke all you like, but there is a very compelling argument that the internet we use would not exist but for the policies Gore sponsored.

Two of the key technical pioneers are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Here's what they say:

"As far back as the 70's Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of the educational system."

"He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises."

"As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science."

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You can joke all you like, but there is a very compelling argument that the internet we use would not exist but for the policies Gore sponsored.

Two of the key technical pioneers are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Here's what they say:

"As far back as the 70's Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of the educational system."

"He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises."

"As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science."

Don't interfere with the mythology. Mythology is important.

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You can joke all you like, but there is a very compelling argument that the internet we use would not exist but for the policies Gore sponsored.

Two of the key technical pioneers are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Here's what they say:

"As far back as the 70's Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of the educational system."

"He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises."

"As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science."

Wow, I was just about to jump in and agree that Gore did indeed say that but after looking it up, it turns out you're right. Kudos to you.:applause:

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Yep. I see no difference in what McCain's adviser said versus what Gore said himself. Once again, McCain did not make this claim. Gore directly made his claim about the internet.

And, as noted a few posts ago, Gore's claim was at least somewhat accurate.

What was dishonest was the misrepresentation that Gore claimed to be the "inventor" of the Internet, a smear which the right has gleefully continued to this day (and you yourself perpetuated in the third post in this thread).

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Yep. I see no difference in what McCain's adviser said versus what Gore said himself. Once again, McCain did not make this claim. Gore directly made his claim about the internet.
Alright, I guess we'll no longer take anything said by an adviser seriously ... this should make Obama's life a lot easier. :whew:
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