China Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Adviser says McCain helped create the BlackBerry MIAMI—Move over, Al Gore. You may lay claim to the Internet, but John McCain helped create the BlackBerry. At least that's the contention of a top McCain policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin. Waving his BlackBerry personal digital assistant and citing McCain's work as a senator, he told reporters Tuesday, "You're looking at the miracle that John McCain helped create." McCain has acknowledged that he doesn't know how to use a computer and can't send e-mail, one of the BlackBerry's prime functions. Holtz-Eakin's argument is similar to one advanced by Gore, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2000. Gore once boasted about "taking the initiative to create the Internet" through technological and educational policies. He later was mocked for claiming to have invented the Internet, although he never made such a claim. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Douglas Holtz-Eakin. Waving his BlackBerry personal digital assistant and citing McCain's work as a senator, he told reporters Tuesday, "You're looking at the miracle that John McCain helped create." bwahahaha! Please tell me someone caught this on video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 What's worse? An overzealous adviser claiming McCain did this or that idiot Gore claiming he invented the internet from his own mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 He later was mocked for claiming to have invented the Internet, although he never made such a claim.Click on the link for the full article What's worse? An overzealous adviser claiming McCain did this or that idiot Gore claiming he invented the internet from his own mouth. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 What's worse? An overzealous adviser claiming McCain did this or that idiot Gore claiming he invented the internet from his own mouth.When did Gore ever claim he invented the internet from his own mouth? Link? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 What's worse? An overzealous adviser claiming McCain did this or that idiot Gore claiming he invented the internet from his own mouth. He didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I think he was talking about the fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Gore did make a big contribution to the creation of the Internet through the policies he sponsored, and the technical pioneers acknowledge that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I think he was talking about the fruit. You're probably right. I think blackberries were created in the Garden of Eden, and that's right around when McCain was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Gore did make a big contribution to the creation of the Internet through the policies he sponsored, and the technical pioneers acknowledge that. I heard he delivered a truck load of tubes to the internet factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I think he meant OLD GEEZER JOHN needs to eat blacberries for there fiber content in order to keep regular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I don't care what that article says. The fact is that Gore claimed "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet". You can talk semantics all you want about "creating" versus "inventing", but the bottom line is that Al Gore lied about his "impact" in the development of the internet. The backbone and many of the components of th internet were in place way before Gore was in Congress. Which proves that not only is he a hypocrite, but a liar too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 This is just a smear by the libuhral media. McCain doesn't even use a BlackBerry, he uses this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I don't care what that article says. The fact is that Gore claimed "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet". You can talk semantics all you want about "creating" versus "inventing", but the bottom line is that Al Gore lied about his "impact" in the development of the internet. The backbone and many of the components of th internet were in place way before Gore was in Congress. Which proves that not only is he a hypocrite, but a liar too.So you're saying that this McCain adviser is a liar too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I heard he delivered a truck load of tubes to the internet factory. You can joke all you like, but there is a very compelling argument that the internet we use would not exist but for the policies Gore sponsored. Two of the key technical pioneers are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Here's what they say: "As far back as the 70's Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of the educational system." "He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises." "As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 You're probably right. I think blackberries were created in the Garden of Eden, and that's right around when McCain was born. HAHAHA got em' coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 this is too much... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 You can joke all you like, but there is a very compelling argument that the internet we use would not exist but for the policies Gore sponsored.Two of the key technical pioneers are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Here's what they say: "As far back as the 70's Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of the educational system." "He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises." "As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science." Don't interfere with the mythology. Mythology is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The article doesn't say, but maybe what this guy was saying is kind of true. I have no idea about the genesis of the Blackberry. Maybe McCain did help it along. :whoknows: I'm not going to mock until I know for sure what the guy is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 So you're saying that this McCain adviser is a liar too? Yep. I see no difference in what McCain's adviser said versus what Gore said himself. Once again, McCain did not make this claim. Gore directly made his claim about the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 You can joke all you like, but there is a very compelling argument that the internet we use would not exist but for the policies Gore sponsored.Two of the key technical pioneers are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Here's what they say: "As far back as the 70's Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of the educational system." "He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises." "As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science." Wow, I was just about to jump in and agree that Gore did indeed say that but after looking it up, it turns out you're right. Kudos to you.:applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Yep. I see no difference in what McCain's adviser said versus what Gore said himself. Once again, McCain did not make this claim. Gore directly made his claim about the internet. And, as noted a few posts ago, Gore's claim was at least somewhat accurate. What was dishonest was the misrepresentation that Gore claimed to be the "inventor" of the Internet, a smear which the right has gleefully continued to this day (and you yourself perpetuated in the third post in this thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Yep. I see no difference in what McCain's adviser said versus what Gore said himself. Once again, McCain did not make this claim. Gore directly made his claim about the internet.Alright, I guess we'll no longer take anything said by an adviser seriously ... this should make Obama's life a lot easier. :whew: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Alright, I guess we'll no longer take anything said by an adviser seriously ... this should make Obama's life a lot easier. :whew: No worry, Obama/Biden seem to take care of those snafus themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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