GaryGreenMonk Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 He'll be gone for sure. I don't think he even wants to play anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_c_19960 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think BL is gone for sure nad we will try to get CHad out of cincy and also isnt Hackett a UFA from Seattle Zorn will try to get him probally OLwill be address in FA as well Draft will get the DE and CB AND S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMUGator19 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Two big problems with Lloyd shining in the WCO, 1 He's a lump of coal who gets scared going across the middle, watch him play, hes always thinking about getting hit instead of catching the ball. 2 He's TERRIBLE at running after the catch. This guy has great leaping ability, but jumps like a frog. when he lands hes practically squatting, so he takes forever to land. Then, he pretty much falls over and plays dead because he doesn't want to take a hit. Anyone know his YAC? i bet no one on the skins, including Sellers has a worse YAC... This guy has talent, but is a scared fool who runs only 2 routes. He could have been amazing, and chose not to. ask Al Saunders, hell tell you just how good he could have been... right now, hes a better rap artist... which isn't saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I still think they give lloyd one last chance, if he misses on that, then cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Keep him. Maybe this year we'll let him actually play instead of just trying to chase down a couple overthrown balls and labeling him a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonHillSkinsFan89 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 There's always work at the post office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbonbright Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I know he has not been a favorite of the board these past few years, but I am cautiously optimistic about how he could potentially perform in a Jim Zorn offense. With an variation of the WC offense, size of WR's can be very important, and Lloyd is one of the few WR's on our team (besides Caldwell) with a little bit of height. Others will probably chime in with Mix here, but I'd much rather have someone who has performed in this league at a fairly high level than someone we hope can blossom.For whatever reason, Lloyd was not liked by the former staff. I hope Zorn and whomever ends up being the OC will give him a clean slate, and hopefully he can make the best of it. I feel he has way more ability that Hackett, who performed well in Seattle in this offense. Hopefully this year will be his to shine, and we will finally see the value of the money we invested in him. Who f'ing cares? Roy Williams, apparently still seething over the Lions drafting Calvin Johnson in the first round last year, wants out of Detroit. What a great addition that would be for the Skins. They can concentrate on drafting some secondary help and offensive line depth. With Carlos Rogers behind in his recovery and not likely to be fully back to speed until the 2009 season, and with the loss of Sean Taylor (RIP), we're going to get torched back there if we don't do something. The nightmare that was the offensive line this year also needs addressing. Run BL out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkipJackSkin Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Trade him for a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4daskins Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Letys call this one as it is, he is a loser. Time to cut him loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 This moment marks the turning point in his Hall of Fame career. Zorn builds the offense around Lloyd, who goes on to post 10 straight 1500yd/12TD seasons. Going down in Redskins lore second only to Art Monk as the greatest receivers to ever wear the Red, Yellow, and Black. nah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Its sad because he has so much talent.People keep saying that, but I must have missed that game. Perhaps you can post a link to some Redskins highlights? He blowed chunks every time I saw him in B&G. And if you are talking about a couple circus catches years ago in SF, they went along with a 500 yd per year avg. Meh. He got 14 yards for us last year, making about a 1/4 million per yard. Where is this "so much talent"? He sucks, and that does not even take his crappy attitude into account. Sadly, we might have to keep him another year because of cap considerations. Lloyd was one of JG's worst mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsMaster88 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 There's always work at the post office No...the mail would probably go missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Two big problems with Lloyd shining in the WCO, 1 He's a lump of coal who gets scared going across the middle, watch him play, hes always thinking about getting hit instead of catching the ball. 2 He's TERRIBLE at running after the catch. This guy has great leaping ability, but jumps like a frog. when he lands hes practically squatting, so he takes forever to land. Then, he pretty much falls over and plays dead because he doesn't want to take a hit. Anyone know his YAC? i bet no one on the skins, including Sellers has a worse YAC... This guy has talent, but is a scared fool who runs only 2 routes. He could have been amazing, and chose not to. ask Al Saunders, hell tell you just how good he could have been... right now, hes a better rap artist... which isn't saying much. YAC? He caught 2 balls for a grand total of 14 yds this season. You are right about him being afraid of being hit. And rightfully so, somebody threw a paper cup at him at practice and broke his collarbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Just get him off the team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area51 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Lloyd does have talent and while I still think we should keep him(given the his cap hit for this year if we cut him), I doubt we do. He blew his chance in '06 but the guy didn't really get much of a chance last year. In the GB game, Lloyd beat the Packers secondary deep(which Moss and ARE couldn't do) and Campbell overthrew him. If you wanna know whether he has the talent, look at the Dallas game two years ago. Moss was out. Lloyd stepped it up and had a pretty good game. His stat line wasn't that impressive but he had a 40 yard catch that was negated by a penalty and also drew a PI(on Roy Williams IIRC) on another deep ball. The guy can play. Yes, he ****ed up in '06. But he came to camp in '07 in great shape and was always seen joking around with players(Moss especially). And given the fact that our coaches like to play favorites(Brunell, Thrash-are you ****ing kidding me?) and alienate players they don't like(LaVar, Archuleta), I think he should be given a new chance with a new coaching staff. The upside is much greater than the downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Trade him for a pick. Your sig is mOney$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I don't know if they can cut him/trade him because of salary cap reasons. Financially, they might need to keep him around for a year then release him. That's the danger with signing somebody unproven to a long term contract with a big signing bonus. Sad, though, because he seems like a parasite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Who are you talking about? :laugh: I was about to say the same thing. To say Lloyd has performed at a high level is laughable. He's never put up exceptional #'s Maybe he can do something in the WC offense. He can't so any worse. Can he? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Redskin Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think Lloyd will get another shot here in DC since we have a new head coach. Don't be surprised when he has a breakout season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think when people cite his talent, they're (maybe subconsciously) referring to his time in San Francisco. I think he made a couple finger tip catches or something. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Lloyd is going to snag 40+ balls next year ...4+ TD's and 500+ yards ... its Murphy's Law type thing man, just watch. its gonna be a kick in the nutz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I really hope he does well, with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobisimo Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Anyone know his YAC? i bet no one on the skins, including Sellers has a worse YAC... Lloyd is averaging 3.0 YAC for his career. His total is 391 YAC on 130 catches. By way of comparison: Cooley has 1324 YAC on 231 catches (5.7 avg). Moss has 1797 YAC on 351 catches (5.1 avg). Randel El has 944 YAC on 245 catches (3.9). Oddly, it's harder to find career YAC stats for non-receivers (i.e. RBs). But Yahoo! lists recent career, so that's something. Sellers has a 5.7 on 73 receptions, and Portis has a 7.9 on 205 receptions. You might look and think, whoa! I didn't know Portis and Sellers would be so great at YAC, but think about it - most of their receptions are in the flat. It's an extended hand-off. It only makes sense that they'd traditionally have better YAC than the average wideout. And that plays out here. The wideouts are lower, the TE is in the middle, and the RBs are higher. Still, Lloyd is very low - as is Randle El. :\ I'm surprised about the latter since, as our PR, you'd expect him to be more quick. Anyway, the bottom line is that your assessment of Lloyd is backed up by this statistic breakdown. As someone who wants to see Lloyd succeed, I have to admit to some level of disappointment. Unless Lloyd really commits himself, or unless we can find a non-YAC-like role for Lloyd, I'd have to agree, reluctantly, that he's a poor fit for the WCO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Letys call this one as it is, he is a loser. Time to cut him loose. He may be a loser, but even Westbrook and Gardner gave us one good year each (Westbrook in 1999, Gardner in 2002). Let's hope Lloyd can do the same for us next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Lloyd is averaging 3.0 YAC for his career. His total is 391 YAC on 130 catches. By way of comparison: Cooley has 1324 YAC on 231 catches (5.7 avg). Moss has 1797 YAC on 351 catches (5.1 avg). Randel El has 944 YAC on 245 catches (3.9).Oddly, it's harder to find career YAC stats for non-receivers (i.e. RBs). But Yahoo! lists recent career, so that's something. Sellers has a 5.7 on 73 receptions, and Portis has a 7.9 on 205 receptions. You might look and think, whoa! I didn't know Portis and Sellers would be so great at YAC, but think about it - most of their receptions are in the flat. It's an extended hand-off. It only makes sense that they'd traditionally have better YAC than the average wideout. And that plays out here. The wideouts are lower, the TE is in the middle, and the RBs are higher. Still, Lloyd is very low - as is Randle El. :\ I'm surprised about the latter since, as our PR, you'd expect him to be more quick. Anyway, the bottom line is that your assessment of Lloyd is backed up by this statistic breakdown. As someone who wants to see Lloyd succeed, I have to admit to some level of disappointment. Unless Lloyd really commits himself, or unless we can find a non-YAC-like role for Lloyd, I'd have to agree, reluctantly, that he's a poor fit for the WCO. Doing a little homework to back up your posts does not go unnoticed is much appreciated. ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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