#98QBKiller Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/30/edwards/index.html John Edwards quits '08 race Former Sen. John Edwards is quitting the Democratic race for president, two sources inside his campaign told CNN Wednesday. The former senator is expected to make an announcement in New Orleans at 1 p.m. details soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reic Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 and then there were two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 at first thought this would appear to help Obama, but if things continue to break along racial lines as they did in SC, Clinton will coast to a nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22913001/?GT1=10755 Bummer. I respected how he refused to get down in the mud with Obama and Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Who do you think he'll endorse? If he endorses Hitler II (Clinton), then it's all over for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Bummer. I respected how he refused to get down in the mud with Obama and Clinton. Unfortunately this will probably send the message to future candidates that running a 'clean' campaign doesn't work anymore. We should probably expect worse tactics in '12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 He'll endorse whomever promises him a better job in their administration. I hear he's gunning for the AG job. Its about time we had a personal injury hack as the nations top lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 damn ... I got an e-mail begging for money just yesterday morning ... maybe I could've saved the campaign. I'm pretty sure they're running really short on funds, and Edwards isn't quite as rich as Romney, so he can't just dip into his own bank account. If he endorses anyone, I think it would be Obama. He doesn't have any particularly strong connections to the Democratic Party establishment, and his running mate from '04, Kerry, is already on the Obama bandwagon. There are rumors going around about attorney general, but I think it's just people thinking lawyer = attorney general ... it doesn't really make any sense if you think about it, since Edwards has no criminal law experience, and very little federal court experience. If I were going to put Edwards in the cabinet, I think it would be more likely for him to be Secretary of Labor or Health and Human Services, or something where he could fight for the little guy or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I'm not so sure its a slam dunk for Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Didn't know he was in it in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 Didn't know he was in it in the first place... Zing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwoody86 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I guess getting the bronze over and over and over wears on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchgear Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Bummer. I respected how he refused to get down in the mud with Obama and Clinton. He didn't do any mudslinging, and for that he should be commended. But he was never a front runner and so never had to withstand any real attacks. If he had been attacked like Obama has and not retaliated, I'd give him more credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hillary just shat herself. She needed him to split the antiHillary vote with Obama next Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hillary just shat herself.She needed him to split the antiHillary vote with Obama next Tuesday. Bingo. I don't think people truly grasp the enormity of this on Super Tuesday. This is probably a 6% bump for Obama across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyConway Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Edwards will endorse Obama. I can even see and Obama/Edwards Dem ticket. They would wipe the floor regardless of who took the GOP ticket. They could even take some red Southern states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Edwards will endorse Obama. I can even see and Obama/Edwards Dem ticket. They would wipe the floor regardless of who took the GOP ticket. They could even take some red Southern states. Interesting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hillary just shat herself.She needed him to split the antiHillary vote with Obama next Tuesday. Absolutely. There's some numbers I'll be crunching to see what happens to some particular demographics. I'm willing to bet a good number of his votes go to McCain in open primaries. I can see some Anti-Hilliary and Anti-Obama voters playing their own politics. The polls aren't going to be accurate for Dems moving on out. That 15 to 20% that Edwards carried will be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Edwards will endorse Obama. I can even see and Obama/Edwards Dem ticket. They would wipe the floor regardless of who took the GOP ticket. They could even take some red Southern states. I think this would be a tough ticket for the GOP to beat. But if it was switched, the GOP wouldnt stand a chance. If that happened, McCain would have to hit a homerun with his choice. And I dont know who that could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I think this would be a tough ticket for the GOP to beat. But if it was switched, the GOP wouldnt stand a chance. If that happened, McCain would have to hit a homerun with his choice. And I dont know who that could be. McCain will choose Huckabee as his VP in order to blow Romney away.That's my prediction.:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeesburgSkinFan Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Edwards had the misfortune of running as a pretty boy white guy in a year where the Democrats really, IMO, want to nominate a woman or a minority. I also think that his running as Kerry's VP candidate didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Bingo. I don't think people truly grasp the enormity of this on Super Tuesday. This is probably a 6% bump for Obama across the board. It may be a 6% bump to Obama but it's also a 4% bump to her. Add that on top of the overwhelming support that she will get from the non-conservative Hispanics that see her (rightfully) as the second coming of Bill, and she is still going to put the hurt on Obama in the big states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I really think Edwards could have won in '04 against Bush. He is basically the genuine version of the folksy southern guy that Bush is always pretending to be. Bush won two elections by being more likeable than two very boring and stiff opponents; Edwards would have changed that equation. This time around, I think both Hillary and Obama are just stronger candidates. Hillary has the Clinton legacy and a strong grasp on policy along with the excitement of a possible first woman President. Obama is new and different and exciting, and his speaking ability is on a different plane from any other candidate ... Maybe if Edwards had sat out four years ago and had been reelected to the Senate, he would have some of that buzz for this election, but he took his chance, and the moment passed him by. I really don't think he's a viable VP choice for either Hillary or Obama. Nobody is going to pick a losing VP candidate again, and Edwards can't deliver any single state. Obama/Edwards might provide a strong urban/rural combination, but that didn't really work with Kerry/Edwards, and I don't really see it working here. Obama would be better served to pick someone from the midwest or southwest, and he should probably pick someone more *establishment* than Edwards. Maybe Edwards would have a place in the next administration, but perhaps he will be content just taking care of his wife, doing non-profit work, and raising his kids. No matter what, he ran a clean campaign, and he certainly did his part to highlight working class issues and to push the other candidates a little bit to the left on Iraq ... even if we never hear from him again, he definitely made quite a mark for someone who had never even been involved in politics before a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 I really don't think he's a viable VP choice for either Hillary or Obama. Nobody is going to pick a losing VP candidate again, and Edwards can't deliver any single state. The rumor going around is, Edwards is waiting on Obama or Hillary to guarantee him an AG position if they are to win the election and he will endorse that candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 The rumor going around is, Edwards is waiting on Obama or Hillary to guarantee him an AG position if they are to win the election and he will endorse that candidate.I already stated earlier in this thread why AG doesn't make any sense for Edwards ... he has no criminal law experience (and never even talks about crime on the campaign trail), and very little federal court experience. I'm not even sure why he would want to be AG. His issues are poverty and health care, and the DOJ doesn't exactly do much on those fronts.I think people are just starting rumors assuming that lawyer = AG when it really doesn't make sense for Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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