Redskins4ever Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I like the idea of a tall, fast, and talented WR in our offense. Roy Williams would be a great addition. Trade a second round draft choice along with Brandon Lloyd and maybe Carlos Rogers for Williams and Shaun Rogers. I like the play of Reche Caldwell, but I would like to see Moss and a taller wideour starting in this offense. I'm not taking anything away from ARE, but he's a slot WR at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ænima Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Throwing Lloyd in hurts the deal.Quoted for truth. Anyone who thinks Lloyd has any trade value whatsoever at this point is delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Roy Williams is the most underrated receiver in the game right now and is still very young. I'll take him anyday of the week, give them Lloyd and a 2nd rounder. 6'3 211 age: 26 I would LOVE to have him. then put Moss as the #2, and ARE in the slot and we'd be gravy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 What about someone under the radar like Berrian from Chicago? 6'1" 185lbs decent 2007 season despite who was playing QB Skinny fast guy who can't go over the middle. Nah. We already got enough of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dachozenone Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 What about someone under the radar like Berrian from Chicago? 6'1" 185lbs decent 2007 season despite who was playing QB Berrian is not under the radar. He is projected as the Number One FA WR. Of course that is if Moss resigns with NE as expected. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 It is called 1. common sense 2. everyone in this thread telling you so He has a career 15.0 ypc average and 28 tds in 4 season while missing 4 games this year. He is also only 26 years old. The guy is doubled teamed all the time put still puts up good numbers, thus is a #1 WR. Last year at the age of 25 he 1310 yards and 7 tds, while being doubled and tripled covered all year. My step brother is a Lions fan and all he talks about how the Lions do not use him enough. Moss we are not getting. Johnson would be to much $$ and he wants to much attention. Walker has knee problems so I would take Williams over all of them. well said. Exactly why we need to try to snag Williams. If he and Campbell get into sync, we will be deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin4ever Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Detriot is looking to stockpile draft picks. I guess there is another 1st round wide receiver they are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 6'3 211 age: 26I would LOVE to have him. then put Moss as the #2, and ARE in the slot and we'd be gravy! But Roy Williams is a glorified #2 receiver remember?? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 It is this character crap that has us sitting at home when the Superbowl is being played. Did character stop the Pats from taking a chance on the diva, Moss. How about the Cowboys taking a chance on the biggest diva of them all in Owens? How are they performing?Because we need a number 1 wr and not another number 2? We already have a good number 2 and solid number 3. We need a number 1. If we get rid of Moss or EL.. sure, bring in Roy. If we get rid of Caldwell, McCardell.. sure, bring in RW. But, if we need 1 WR and our option are RW or CJ.. You'd be foolish to take RW. We have that same player in Santana Moss. I agree, not a priority when we already have that. Save going over the middle.. Moss was his best this year when running a slant. Again, our problem with judging character over talent has us a nice football team who has yet to get in the big game. We need a superstar not a nice guy. We have a fundamental philosophical difference in that you think RW is a #2 WR, while I think he's a clear-cut #1. I don't think I can convince you otherwise, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think RW has just as much talent as all the other guys you mentioned, he's younger, he's bigger (in some cases), and he's performed well despite not having a great QB. Look at RW's QB Kitna. He is not Carson Palmer, he is not Tom Brady, he is not Jay Cutler/Favre, and he is not Kurt Warner. He throws as many INTs as TDs, and if RW can get those statistics while Kitna is being sacked all over the place, imagine the statistics he could get with a competent O-line and QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 But Roy Williams is a glorified #2 receiver remember?? :laugh: lol :laugh: Seriously though, we NEED to pursue him. Imagine the possibilities...... RW, Moss, ARE, Caldwell...... then throw in the fact that we have a top 3 TE in Cooley. We'd be unstoppable on Offense. IF our o-line can hold up and JC steps his game up. We all know Portis will bring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 We have a fundamental philosophical difference in that you think RW is a #2 WR, while I think he's a clear-cut #1. I don't think I can convince you otherwise, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think RW has just as much talent as all the other guys you mentioned, he's younger, he's bigger (in some cases), and he's performed well despite not having a great QB. Look at RW's QB Kitna. He is not Carson Palmer, he is not Tom Brady, he is not Jay Cutler/Favre, and he is not Kurt Warner. He throws as many INTs as TDs, and if RW can get those statistics while Kitna is being sacked all over the place, imagine the statistics he could get with a competent O-line and QB. QFT. Roy Williams(the receiver)=$$$ in Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 lol :laugh:Seriously though, we NEED to pursue him. Imagine the possibilities...... RW, Moss, ARE, Caldwell...... then throw in the fact that we have a top 3 TE in Cooley. We'd be unstoppable on Offense. IF our o-line can hold up and JC steps his game up. We all know Portis will bring it. You just gave me my "O" Face. Ooo, Ooo. Lets get him. Quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pungopal Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Sounds more like the chopping block. Another Williams is a bust out of Detroit. I agree we need a taller WR but Williams isn't it. He has had only one year that he played the entire season. I would pass on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Interesting, going back to read the discussion, haven't watched him much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Has there been much talk of Shaun Rogers lately? I don't know anything about him, other than we need a DT Good when he wants to be. Lacks consistency, gives up on plays quite often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Good when he wants to be. Lacks consistency, gives up on plays quite often Ahh, I was thinking DE, which is why I edited that out.. I guess DT should be a draft position for us anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1njskinsfan Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 give them Lloyd and a 2nd rounder. u r joking right? that "player" would not get the skins a box of used jocks and socks....unwashed and just used in practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I would love me some Roy Williams. But we would probably have to give up a first and second rounder, and I'm not sure I would want to do that considering our history in ignoring the draft. Oh why did we trade for TJ Duckett? As much as I hate to say it, we need to give Llyod another chance at being that tall receiver if we can't get anyone else, we've just invested too much into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 That's fine, but I would've rather had him at the price of a 4th round pick like the Patriots. Unfortunately, we'll have to break the bank for a deep threat as well as someone who's infamous for taking plays off and not going over the middle. This is not a priority for us. . A deal like that is a team's wet dream. It's just not going to happen again. Moss didn't want to be with the Raiders and the Raiders didn't want Moss. It was either cut him or take whatever they could get. They took whatever they could get, once in a lifetime type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 If the Pats could get Randy Moss with a 4th round pick, maybe I'd give a fifth for this guy but that is it.Actually, screw it. Keep all the draft picks. We need them to repair our lines and to provide depth. Y'all seriously need to stop judging acquisitions based on that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Skins Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 With Roy Williams on this team, this would not only help the O in the redzone with a big receiver, but also help out Moss. This would give the opposition of deciding to pick their poison; cover the run, double Moss, or double Williams. The skins need to make this happen without giving up any first day picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taiwan32 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I completely agree, Springs needs to go...Jansen will seriuosly have to compete for his starting job next year with Heyer getting better in the off season. Also, think there's a serious future with Anthony Mix. Actually we can start Janson because he's only good for a game or so before being put on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I would love to have Roy Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 We would have the best Roy Williams in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wouldn't mind Roy Williams, but for those who suggested trading Marcus Washington are nuts. He's a Redskin and one of our better players. Don't trade him. I'd be pissed if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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