blue collar Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Manny plans to sue Mayweather and Golden Boy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8430611.stm I have no problem with this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Manny is not objecting to the type of testing they do for the Olympics, its the fact that the USADA conducts random testing, which means they can test him right before the bell rings for the first round. Floyd looks stupid in this as that type of testing is not needed for a fight. Even if Manny was on something, or Floyd for that matter, no test will find it as I am sure whoever supplies them with the PED, would know how not to get caught, just like Conti did at Balco. Cheaters will always be a few steps ahead of the testers. Manny does not want blood drawn while he is training or before the fight, because he believes it makes him weaker for at least 3 days following , it might all be in his head, it might be real for him, who really knows for sure other than Manny? I think Manny has done enough for the sport that if he does not want random testing within a certian number of days before the fight, then he shouldn't have too. Manny will agree to random testing, just not so close to the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Anyone who thinks Manny is dirty and is trying to duck a "really thorough" test is an idiot. How well has the USADA done in the past when it comes to catching cheaters? They missded Marion Jones and pretty much every other US track & field competitor from 1984 through 2004. (not say they where all dirty, but for sure not all where clean). Not to mention all the international competitors for the Atlanta & Salt Lake Olympics, who tested positive at a later date, but passed USADA tests. Floyd is just being Floyd, trying to stir stuff up and see if he can get into Manny's head, which looks to be successful so far. Floyd also knows Manny stands a good chance of beating him, and if (when) that happens, he will use the testing issue as an excuse. Manny has to take this fight in March, because if he gets elected in The Phillipines, Ithink his boxing career will be over. I think Floyd knows this as well & might use this to duck yet another fighter who could put that first L on his record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 (edited) http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4772853 floyd & his people are backing off the olympic level testing. instead there will be 2 random tests before the fight and one test immediately following the fight Edited December 27, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Williams overrated? Too bad nobody wants to expose him I'd like to see Punisher-Martinez II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Williams overrated? Too bad nobody wants to expose him I'd like to see Punisher-Martinez II. He was exposed a couple of weeks ago. I think he lost that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 He was exposed a couple of weeks ago. I think he lost that fight.Eh, could've gone either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) He was exposed a couple of weeks ago. I think he lost that fight. i wouldn't call that being "exposed", Martinez is a damn good fighter in his own right. its not like paul was fighting a scrub that took him to the limit Paul has trouble against slick southpaws, not many of those floating around from 147-160. still that fight could've gone either way imo (the 119-110 scorecard was a crock of **** though) Edited December 27, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Eh, could've gone either way. He lost the last 4 or 5 rounds of that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 i wouldn't call that being "exposed", Martinez is a damn good fighter in his own right. its not like paul was fighting a scrub that took him to the limitPaul has trouble against slick southpaws, not many of those floating around from 147-160. still that fight could've gone either way imo (the 119-110 scorecard was a crock of **** though) To me, Williams is just one of those fighters that throws a high volume of punches. Many of his punches are wild IMO. I've just never been all that high on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Well, when Shane was the top guy, Floyd wanted to fight him and Shane refused.If I'm not mistaken, Mayweather was in a lower weight class when he wanted to fight Shane....Shane had bigger fish to fry in his own weight class.One think is for certain, Mayweather wasn't the #2 fighter in the weight class when this happened. One think is for certain, Mayweather wasn't the #2 fighter in the weight class when this happened. As of right now, Mayweather and Mosley are the two top true welterweight in boxing right now....they need to get this fight done. And every fighter you named, Floyd would have beat. Cotto have been exposed, Paul Williams is overrated IMO, Mosley let Cotto beat him and Margarito would have been tough, but Floyd would have found a way. Actually...we will probably never know...because your boy never fought them. I love Boxing, but it is a joke these days. All the titles; all the ridiculous fight that make no sense. I wish it were the old days where all the fighters wanted the strap (the true undisputed title) then there is no way Mayweather would have gotten away with dodging all the top talent in his weight class. Edited December 28, 2009 by Gator Bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Williams overrated? Too bad nobody wants to expose him I'd like to see Punisher-Martinez II. yeah, me too...Martinez won the first fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Manny uses roids to get strong before the fight. By the time the fight is done and they test, its out of the system.Manny is a roider. so they now have a roid that is designed so specifically that it stays in his system in the ~30-45 mins of the fight then magically disappears before any post fight testing can be done? seems like a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 There needs to be fewer weight classes (-110, 111-125, 126-140, 141-155, 156-170, 171-185, 186-200, 200-250?, 251+) and MANY fewer governing bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C26 Run Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Pacquiao is a huge hypocrite and a liar. How could anyone make the claim that they are afraid of needles and blood? Especially when your a boxer with tattoos?! How could you be afraid of blood? Does anyone not recognize what is happening here? Of course, he's going to file a lawsuit against Mayweather. He doesn't want his secret out. Most importantly he knows that the burden of proof falls on Mayweather. Mayweather wouldn't be able to prove anything(which Manny knows). I'm not saying the brother is doping but he shouldn't be treating fans like they're stupid. He should take the tests and in 2010 prove that he's the best pound for pound fighter. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well the Mayweathers should have just kept their traps shut if they didn't have no proof. I don't blame Pac. They tried to tarnish his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C26 Run Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well the Mayweathers should have just kept their traps shut if they didn't have no proof. I don't blame Pac. They tried to tarnish his legacy. The proof is there. Just watch the matches. In this type of law where money is involved, Mayweather would need an inside man to blow the lid on Pac. If Pac has nothing to hide, THEN TAKE THE TESTS. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well the Mayweathers should have just kept their traps shut if they didn't have no proof. I don't blame Pac. They tried to tarnish his legacy.Well if he's not doing PEDs (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt), why ***** away from the testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDERDOME Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Publicity stunt to gain more attention for the fight. That's all it is. Even though they really don't need anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 mayweather's adviser Ellerbee said that if the pacquiao fight falls through, he'll fight Mosley (provided he gets by Berto in January) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 mayweather's adviser ellerbee said that if the pacquiao fight falls through, he'll fight mosley (provided he gets by berto in january) yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 The proof is there. Just watch the matches. In this type of law where money is involved, Mayweather would need an inside man to blow the lid on Pac.If Pac has nothing to hide, THEN TAKE THE TESTS. :helmet: If it's there, where is it? I guess Leonard, Hearns or any other fighter that won multiple titles in different weight classes is suspect. Mayweather is one of those guys that don't want to fight someone that can beat him. And you say "if Pac has nothing to hide, he ought to take a test?" Well, that's not how it works. If Mayweather is so into PED's in boxing, name another fight that he pulled this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 How far back are the old days Gator Bait ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Originally Posted by C26 Run The proof is there. Just watch the matches. In this type of law where money is involved, Mayweather would need an inside man to blow the lid on Pac. If Pac has nothing to hide, THEN TAKE THE TESTS. Dude, just quit while you're ahead because you sound like a complete idiot. Pac will take the testing as long as the NAC decides and dictates the protocol for testing. Arum is not going to let the Gayweathers decide the testing the policy. Get a grip on yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dude, just quit while you're ahead because you sound like a complete idiot. Pac will take the testing as long as the NAC decides and dictates the protocol for testing. Arum is not going to let the Gayweathers decide the testing the policy. Get a grip on yourself. Gayweather? are you really 31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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