KWILLVILLE Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Sean Taylor can never be replaced, but I think bringing in another safety from the U, possibly the top safety in the draft, would be nice. Especially so, when they describe him as "the body of Sean Taylor and the knowledge and speed of Ed Reed". link to his prospect page: http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/kenny-phillips.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 please no more using 1st round picks on defensive backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I wouldn't be upset if he was picked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 sounds nice, but he won't even be there when we pick most likely. I just can't see us taking another first round draft pick as a safety, from the "U" ... to replace another HOF caliber safety from the "U." As great of a story as that would be, we need to move on to more important things and draft lineman on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 not another one. In the aftermath of the Taylor death, everyone is falling in love with a (pretty good) safety from The U, drawing parallels and connections to Sean just because both are from The U. Lets focus on DE and WR like we should have been the last few drafts, as well as o-line depth. You are only as good as your trenches, Detroit and Arizona can vouch for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel2 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 please no more using 1st round picks on defensive backs. Absolutely correct. If defense is chosen in the first round, let it be a DE or DT. I think we will be OK at Safety, Landry and Reed are beginning to play much better since they swapped Safety positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Pretty damn good IMO. We need a pass-rush and OL depth desperately too though, however, a lot of very good pass-rushers have been found in the later rounds as of recently Jared Allen, Aaron Kampman, Trent Cole, etc. Personally, if Phillips is there when we're on the clock, I'd take him and go for a pass-rusher later in the draft, plus this all depends on what happens in FA too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonef1de Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 link to his prospect page: http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/kenny-phillips.htm links to threads already started about Phillips http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226707&highlight=Kenny+Phillips http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226115&highlight=Kenny+Phillips Keep coming back, It works if u work it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't think our secondary is an issue right now...maybe Cornerback if Shawn Springs leaves. If Carlos comes back and Springs comes back I think we will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 not another one. In the aftermath of the Taylor death, everyone is falling in love with a (pretty good) safety from The U, drawing parallels and connections to Sean just because both are from The U. Lets focus on DE and WR like we should have been the last few drafts, as well as o-line depth. You are only as good as your trenches, Detroit and Arizona can vouch for that. Doesn't Arizona have a good OL? I do know that they drafted Alan Branch whom a lot of people on this board wanted and he's only started a few games, apparently he was a big bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yeah he would look nice in a Redskins jersey. So would Peyton Manning, Randy Moss, Dwight Freeney, etc. doesn't mean it's possible or should happen. We need a defensive end this off season. Our D-Line isn't that bad, Carter, Griffin, Golston, and Montgomery can provide decent pressure...Daniels is good for using his 900 inch reach to bat down a ball or two per game but thats about it. He can't get pressure, Wilson isn't getting pressure very well...we need a guy at right defensive end who can make the quarterback uncomfortable. We have a stud safety in Landry and a decent safety in Doughty so far. We either need a better corner, better DE, or both on that side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Can you imagine the pressure that would be on that kid's shoulders? He'd immediately be compared to Sean if he came here. I'm not sure I'd want that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abu69 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 hey look, I'm a subscriber to the Best Player Available drafting policy, regardless of position (unless we're talking about a position we JUST drafted highly for). If it's a safety, so be it. The best teams build around the talent they have, and make the most out of the picks they are given, instead of reaching to fill a position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 He is NOTHING like Sean Taylor, and to even hint at it, is disrespectful to Sean's memory. If noone on staff can handle the Free Safety duties, then maybe we get a Free Agent in here, but no I do not see us drafting a Safety, if we do draft a dback it should be a Corner not a Safety. (See springs maybe leaving, and carlos' injury). But above all we need Dline help. if we improve our push from the Dline our Dbackfield isn't going to have to hold on receivers quite as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Can you imagine the pressure that would be on that kid's shoulders? He'd immediately be compared to Sean if he came here. I'm not sure I'd want that for him. Yea, I wouldn't either. But just imagine if he excelled....I don't know how to describe what that would be like. It would be surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I wouldn't be upset if he was picked nor would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Springs is old and expensive, Carlos is unreliable and Smoot is.. well smoot is smoot. We can get awful thin at that position aweful quick-- and based on last year we know how important a position that is. So somewhere in the first two rounds we need a CB. Safety is a free agency move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 please no more using 1st round picks on defensive backs. Agreed. If you're only going to look at one university for draft picks that goes a lot in saying that your scouting department sucks. Let's look around before just looking at one player from a university that you have a history of getting players from and paying a lot of money for those players. Just say no....just say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANDWARF Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 please no more using 1st round picks on defensive backs. Ditto, we need a DE or DT to get to the QB. Majority of our pass hurries come on blitzes that leave our secondary vulnerable. We need a dominating DE to rush so we don't have to rely on the blitzes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge316 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 it would be a waste to pick up a DB in the 1st round...team has much more glaring needs at DE, someone who can actually put pressure on the QB, OL, WR building a team with a good front four can make the DBs look so much better, just look at the CBs from Tampa Bay while their run or the Pats, they just plug people in the secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Alan Branch whom a lot of people on this board wanted and he's only started a few games, apparently he was a big bust. Big men take time to develop,which is one of the reasons the Skins don't draft 'em on day one: the franchise and the fanbase have no patience when it comes to player development,IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Look at a team like the Vikings. Kevin Williams makes that team go. We have far better talent, overall, but the pressure and run stopping that their defensive line creates, everyone else looks better. Same with Jacksonville. I'm not saying that drafting someone to play on the D-Line will make us the uber-Skins, but at some point you have to TRY, no? How many times do we need to see a 4 man rush get NO pressure? I'll admit that I've been drawn by the "skill" positions, but I'm finally with BLC, we have to go defensive line, even if it's a slight reach. We reached for Campbell and that's worked out pretty well. (not being sarcastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Sean Taylor can never be replaced, but I think bringing in another safety from the U, possibly the top safety in the draft, would be nice. Especially so, when they describe him as "the body of Sean Taylor and the knowledge and speed of Ed Reed". link to his prospect page: http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/kenny-phillips.htm We need D-lineman. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Doesn't Arizona have a good OL? I do know that they drafted Alan Branch whom a lot of people on this board wanted and he's only started a few games, apparently he was a big bust. they do have a good o-line this year. I guess I meant in years past. Russ Grimm definitely coached those guys up. Their d-line isn't that good right now though. I'm not sure about Branch, but I just figured he was in the rotation, though not starting. However, look at teams like the Vikings and Steelers (granted it's different since they run a 3-4). Good trenches have always helped them. Same with the Giants, at least they can rely on their o-line and d-line to come up. A good team will get to the point where their o-line and d-lines are pretty good, that they can start building around them. The Patriots have shed a lot of former lineman, had "down" years in 2005 and 2006, and are now coming back strong, building around those lines by getting guys like Moss and Adalius Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 No matter what anyone tells you, this game is won or lost at the line of scrimmage. Until we start investing some picks into both lines and have the patience to develop them, we will remain a mediocre team. Good teams don't go a whole decade without spending a day one pick on the Dline. The Skins do. How's that worked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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