Year_of_The_Monk Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 After reading this post, my daily hatred for the Cowgurls is renewed! Ahhhhh feels good...doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurm Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 And I'm part of that few! I really despise anything Dallas b/c of the cowgirls. I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, don't like them. I want to say hate them but that's such a powerful word filled with lots of emotion. Oh screw it, I hate the cowgirls. :dallasuck My sentiments EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 What about the Halftime Chickens? Noone has mentioned that yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1N_SKINS Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 ive been wondering the same thing for a while now all i remember when i was younger is that i hate th cowgirls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlwredskins Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 It's the history of the song It's the arrogance of their organization and the Fans The games we played against them that ended like the game in Buffalo....(how many times have they stuck it to us when we had them behind the eight ball? That America's Team crap...that make me crazy everytime I hear it. They for the most part get the better of us Them being media darlings no matter what....Aikman even said when things are going well being the Dallas Cowboy QB is the best job in the world the whole thing makes me sick...need I go on? That's why when we stick it to them it's that much sweeter. HAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 For me it started with Clint Longley. :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 we get this question every couple of months. a short version of the story is that when the cowboys wanted to become a franchise, they needed the other owners to vote. and it was known that the redskins owner would vote against them. so the cowboys owner bought the rights to the music of "hail to the redskins" and said that if he ever wanted to hear that song in the stadium again, he would vote for the cowboys. he got his vote, we got the song yada yada yada, troy vincent blocks a field goal and sean taylor picks it up and returns it for a few yards and nick novak kicks a game winnin field goal. haha i like this summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I think it was George Allen who started it really boiling, but there was a dislike in Washington for Dallas from the start. Apparently there was some thought that they were going to cut in to the Redskins fan base which used to stretch across the south. That's what was told to me anyway, but the important thing is they embody all that is wrong and evil. EVERYONE hates them. We just hate them better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEavyJumbo85 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 It started with George Preston Marshall and the Dallas owner over some legal thing with "Hail to the Redskins." But George Allen hyped it up to the point of pure hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 coming to Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The battle between good and evil goes back to the beginning. I first heard about it when I was a kid in Northern Virginia. A kid was just supposed to grow up liking cornbread, crabs and the Redskins. And hating the Cowboys. Very simple.:dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazzaro703 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The whole Cowboys and Indians thing i would guess. They were named to hate each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwsleep Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The battle between good and evil goes back to the beginning. I first heard about it when I was a kid in Northern Virginia.A kid was just supposed to grow up liking cornbread, crabs and the Redskins. And hating the Cowboys. Very simple.:dallasuck This is correct, though I grew up in Maryland. :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD Riggo Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 George Preston Marshall had the "hail to the Redskins song", but never copyrighted it, so the prospective owners of Dallass held it hostage and would only give it back to him if he voted for a team in Dallass. GPM owned the whole south with Radio and coverage and didn't want to give the area up. Well, as a fourth generation Floridian, I can tell you that he did NOT lose Florida! My grandfather was a Skins fan. My Dad was a Redskins fan. And *I* am most decidedly a Redskins fan! Sure .. there are always the idiot fairweather Cowboy sheeple everywhere, but Florida is Skins country. Most native Floridians grew up being Skins fans before there were the Yucks, the Jugs, and the Deadphish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoth Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Some of you will probably think I'm stupid or extremely ignorant, but with all of the things I've learned about this team, I never was taught the real reason that these two teams hate each other. All I know is that I was taught not to like the Pukes. Then as I got older, I hated them simply because of their arrogance, ****iness, etc. But what really started it all? Guesses: 1. Caucasians stealing the country from Indians (aka, see a John Wayne movie). 2. The history of "the country" of Texas, which has anti-establishment bent. Natural to oppose nation's capitol team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dposton Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hail to the Redskins Roger Staubach - Makes me sick America's Team - Then I must not be American Drew Pearson, Michael Irving, Tony Dorsett, Calvin Hill, Randy White, Ed Jones, Harvey Martin, Craig Morton, Clint Longley, Bob Hayes, Walt Garrison, Hollywood Henderson, Tom Landry, The Star, The hole in the Stadium, The Cheerleaders, Being able to wear their white jerseys on the road and forcing other teams to where their road jerseys, Giving us Norv (They knew he wasn't head coaching material when we sought permission to talk to him), Anything blue and white, the announcers having mental masturbation sessions when Dallas plays, Redskins have fallen behind in value of the franchise and in number of SB's played. Yada Yada Yada Yada (stolen from another poster) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 George Allen largely responsible for rivalry as we know it today Yup, it was not as heated until he came to town, sure it was cowboys vs indians before that, but he bred hate in our players for "those d*mn cowboys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 because we are good and they are evil.... it just makes sense to be rivals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The entire existence, plus I heard back in the day, George Preston Marshall didnt want the cowboys in the nfc east, so the cowboys bought the copyright to "Hail to the Redskins" and refused to give the song back till they were allowed in the NFC east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Well, as a fourth generation Floridian, I can tell you that he did NOT lose Florida! My grandfather was a Skins fan. My Dad was a Redskins fan. And *I* am most decidedly a Redskins fan! Sure .. there are always the idiot fairweather Cowboy sheeple everywhere, but Florida is Skins country. Most native Floridians grew up being Skins fans before there were the Yucks, the Jugs, and the Deadphish. your one hundred, how was your grandfather a skins fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 That was Harvey "May he burn in hell" Martin I stand corrected. Then again, hated them all so much they're one in the same to me. :point2sky :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Way back, the original owner of the cowboys was trying to have a team in the NFL. This needed a unanimous vote from the other owners. The owner of the Skins, JP Marshall, kept voting "NO"Mr. Marshal had a falling out with the guy who rote "hail to the Redskins", and that guy sold the rights to the song to the cowboys potential owner. Now this potential owner had leverage over marshall, and in return for the song, Marshall voted yes to the caowboys. The potential owner had new lyrics for the cowboys ready and was rubbing salt in the wound. So there you have it. Plus, they suck. Not quite. Marshal's wife wrote HTTR, but they never got it copyrighted. The COwboys swooped it up and bought the copyright and held it hostage for a vote. Then, when they got their franchise, via league rules back then, they took all of the best Redskins on the roster at that time that they could and made them Coeboys.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 There is so much crap between the ownership of both clubs it leak into the fans base. It hasn't been as strong as it was in the 70s and 80s but hopefully Campbell will change that to a point where the media will hype up the games (Pats vs cowboys) and the rival true hate will be alive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinskinsfan Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I am super fired up for the dec 30th game...I think it might be the frist game in maybe 10-15 years where it can decide playoff position for both teams...Damn I can't wait to win!!! Lets bring the hatred that day.. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_ Skinshead Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Some of you will probably think I'm stupid or extremely ignorant, but with all of the things I've learned about this team, I never was taught the real reason that these two teams hate each other. All I know is that I was taught not to like the Pukes. Then as I got older, I hated them simply because of their arrogance, ****iness, etc. But what really started it all? I believe it had something to do with the killing of buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess_in_beachtown_nc Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Not quite. Marshal's wife wrote HTTR, but they never got it copyrighted. The COwboys swooped it up and bought the copyright and held it hostage for a vote. Then, when they got their franchise, via league rules back then, they took all of the best Redskins on the roster at that time that they could and made them Coeboys.:doh: You are dead on my friend..... Dont forget about the chickens though! EDIT: I found this.... Gotta love Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys-Redskins_rivalry " In December 1961, an unknown number of Cowboys fans snuck into D.C. Stadium, armed with bags of chicken feed. When Alaskan snow dogs were to drag Santa Claus onto the field during the halftime show, the pranksters would unleash dozens of hungry chickens onto the field - 75 white, one black. The significance of the black chicken was to symbolize how Marshall was the only owner in the league who would not recruit an African-American football player; Marshall boldly stating, "We'll start signing Negroes when the Harlem Globetrotters start signing whites." The chickens fit into two large crates, which were smuggled into the stadium the morning of the game. The chickens and the smugglers went unspotted until halftime, when a stadium usher noticed a man guarding the crates and heard the chickens. Though the guard tried to bribe the official with $100 dollars, he was quickly reported and arrested, and the chickens confiscated. As it turned out, the "official" was actually Redskins general manager Dick McCann. The following year and the night before the third Redskins-Cowboys match-up in less than a year, pranksters snuck into Marshall's hotel suite and dropped off a large turkey in the bathroom. When Marshall went into the bathroom, the turkey puffed up and gobbled at him, causing Marshall to flee his room. "Chickens are nice", Marshall said, "but a man shouldn't fool with a mad turkey."[2] Just minutes before kickoff, while "Hail to the Redskins" blared throughout the stadiums, four banners reading "CHICKENS" - one at each 50-yard line and one in each end zone center - were unfurled in the stadium's upper decks. Two acrobats, hired by Cowboys fans and Chicken Club founders Bob Thompson and Irv Davidson (along with the University of Maryland students with the banners) rushed onto the field dressed in chicken costumes and began to throw colored eggs. One was apprehended by a guard, but the other proved to be too elusive. By this time, the band was playing the National Anthem, therefore unable to move. The lone chicken-acrobat reached into this bag and released a chicken, then returned to his egg-throwing. Running to a sideline, he then attempted to leave the stadium by jumping over a bench, but slipped. A group of security guards then apprehended him, but he was able to break free. He made it back to the 50-yard line, turned a cartwheel, then ran and flopped onto the 30-yard line. By this time, only aware that the National Anthem was over, the two teams rushed onto the field in the middle of the chaos. In the midst of the ruckus, the man made it off the field and into the stands. Although the real chicken was caught, the acrobat-chicken was never apprehended. The next day, while reporting the 38-10 Cowboys victory, the Dallas News scoring summary ended with, Attendance-49,888 (and one chicken) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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