Isifhan Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Thoughts? Feeback? please help me make sense of this trade. I just don't see it if we throw away more picks. Maybe to understand this trade, you should realize that it's not a trade. It's at best a proposal. One that we'll probably laugh at and say thanks but no thanks. Or, make another counter proposal...like the way most negotiations happen. Nothing's happened yet, step back from the ledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Let's just let the Bears have Rocky now so we can resign him 4 years later after he's made 2 pro bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 Let's just let the Bears have Rocky now so we can resign him 4 years later after he's made 2 pro bowls. Along with Archuleta. Seriously though, I still think we stay at six or trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Moving down and getting a player is one thing. But you get a player of NEED when you do that. If we didn't sign Fletcher. Then you could make a real argument. Otherwise, it doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I wonder if they want Holdman back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Patience is a virtueBut, you'd hope that in the past few days, cooler heads prevailed and they realized Briggs doesn't improve a weak DL. Thus, it doesn't help an average DB corp. I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsManNJ Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I think the FO should just say were not interested anymore. Chicago took to long and we found a better deal elsewhere. Either moving up for CJ or moving down a couple spots and getting more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfor4 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Take the deal off the table and let the Bears think about it.Why on earth would we throw in any other player.Their pissed because we went public with the terms.If anything they should throw in another player.We were the 6th worst team in the league last season they were 2nd best,why would WE throw in ANYONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 This statement makes no sense. The Bears offered a counter proposal which hasn't even been confirmed yet. How does this reflect badly on our FO? You seem to be skipping the part where we agree to said, unconfirmed proposal. The (alleged) offer alone is stupid. If you're upset that I didn't put in "allegedly", then I have a solution: every time you read one of my posts, just imagine I said "allegedly" before every sentence. There. Problem solved. Allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Yep, the Skins front office brilliance continues to shine. Once again -- judgment is passed without any action or evidence. People really love hating the front office. I'm just not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeast36 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 This is Washington fellas!!!! How about we storm the capital and defend our right as the paying fan to not suffer through any more insane front office decisions!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 When you have a Pro Bowl playmaker LB, the fact that he was a 3rd rounder is meaningless. Throw the points away and make the trade or don't make the trade based on how it helps the team. I think Briggs will help the team, but I don't think the front office should make the trade. Comparing draft chart points, though, is entirely arbitrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 John Keim is saying the Bears are enamored with Rocky Mac. How bizarre is that? Maybe the Bears also think that Briggs is a product of their system and teamates. So they figure likewise they can make Rocky into a stud. Rocky is a higher draft pick and about the same size as Briggs. Ironic it would be if Rocky turns into a stud pro bowler in their system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 The (alleged) offer alone is stupid. Right. So that would be a reflection of the Bears FO, not ours. Your original post would make it seem that it's a reflection of "brilliance" of our FO because the Bears proposed an absurd trade...now that would reek of agenda by you but we all know you have no such thing...allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdaddydean Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Quick, do the math on that one: 2670 points vs 850. Man, that's lopsided. It's 1600 points for the #6, and 520 and 550 for the picks used to get McIntosh. That's a total of 2670 points. And the Bears give up 600 points for the #31, and 250 for the 3rd round pick they originally used to select Briggs. That's 850 points. Yep, the Skins front office brilliance continues to shine. It's the equivalent of trading the #2 pick in the draft for the #20 pick. Straight up. According to the values you are correct, but this math is misleading. The reason is because according to points Rocky is worth 1170 points and Briggs is worth 600. But thats misleading because obviously Briggs is a more valuable player. So you see points don't really hold weight in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Yep, the Skins front office brilliance continues to shine.Once again -- judgment is passed without any action or evidence. People really love hating the front office. I'm just not sure why. Really, you're not sure why? Have you checked our record since Snyder bought the team? Have you seen some of the moves we've made? Some of the players we've let go, some of the players we've acquired? Did you see what happened to Arch? Lloyd? You're still not sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Briggs and will bring something else to the table the taste of getting to the SB and just missing out, tell me he won't be hungry to get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGibbsThickandthin Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 The (alleged) offer alone is stupid. If you're upset that I didn't put in "allegedly", then I have a solution: every time you read one of my posts, just imagine I said "allegedly" before every sentence.There. Problem solved. Allegedly. You are starting to become the greatest drama queen of this boards history. What does the Bears given a proposal have to the Redskins front office. If someone wants to see you something does it make you dumb even if you do not take it the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunBunch7 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Thanks for the update. Does anyone know who Cindy is? I went out with a girl named Cindy that lived in the LA area...I really tried to turn her into a Redskin fan...if this is the same Cindy...AWESOME!!! I'm glad you finally came around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Quick, do the math on that one: 2670 points vs 850. Man, that's lopsided. It's 1600 points for the #6, and 520 and 550 for the picks used to get McIntosh. That's a total of 2670 points. And the Bears give up 600 points for the #31, and 250 for the 3rd round pick they originally used to select Briggs. That's 850 points. Yep, the Skins front office brilliance continues to shine. It's the equivalent of trading the #2 pick in the draft for the #20 pick. Straight up. I'm usually kind of with you, but that's not even close to how you should calculate this deal. I still don't think it's a great deal for the Skins, but Briggs' value is obviously higher than that of an unknown third rounder at this point. It is, however, a great case study in how developing your own can lead to bigger dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I'm usually kind of with you' date=' but that's not even close to how you should calculate this deal. I still don't think it's a great deal for the Skins, but Briggs' value is obviously higher than that of an unknown third rounder at this point.It is, however, a great case study in how developing your own can lead to bigger dividends.[/quote'] Great post. Mr. Madd, Usually im right there with you too, but Briggs carries more value than stated. Like Lomardi said, it does prove that developing your own player or getting a player from the start and making your system, his system, is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I'd say that if they want Rocky they need to give up a 3rd rounder. Remember we essentially gave up 2 2nds for Rocky and now we are going to drop him for nubbins, I would hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I'd say that if they want Rocky they need to give up a 3rd rounder. Remember we essentially gave up 2 2nds for Rocky and now we are going to drop him for nubbins, I would hope not. A player and the 6th draft pick for a a player and the 31st pick isn't equal. If the Bears want this they should have to throw in at least one more pick. I agree with the person who says the agent did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Just stay at six or move back. Come on, Joe. Im kinda with you on this one Hoop. I think the Bears have a bad situation with Briggs and shouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth(us willing to trade and pay Briggs asking price) I think if they want to highball us and get all pissy over Briggs agent putting news out there, then we should just take whatever "counter" offer they give us and drop it in file 13. Ef them anyways. I would rather have had the Bly deal with a few extra picks. Oh well, Stay or move down i say. If we stay we could have an interesting situation on the clock during the draft if someone falls to the 6th spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graniteFallsNCskins Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Tell Bears to stick it! We should been getting a 3RD rounder in first offer? Bears dont have any dealing power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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