26fan4life Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 our #6 = 1600 NE # 24 = 740 NE # 28 = 660 their 3rd rounder = 132 their 4th rounder = 48 http://www.theredzone.org/2006/draft/draftvaluechart.asp Anyone down for dealing our #6 overall for both of NE's first round picks, their 3rd and their 4th? That way we could draft tank tyler and anthony spencer for a DT and DE and therefore address our two primary needs. EDITED: the following was a hypothetical question for those that didn't realize - although suggesting that NE would trade 4 picks for one should be enough of an indication :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSkinsFanatic Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Do you think they will give us all those picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 and their nexts years #1 and #5 dream big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Just because the #'s are close doesn't mean the Patriots are going to do it. In fact, if you knew anything, you would know that they would be the last team to make a deal that would give up so many picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoyaSkins28 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 as much as i would want to, no way would the pats ever do that. keep dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 I'd take that deal in a heartbeat on our end; but like everyone else has said, no way do the Pats make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Your suggested trade would be completely out of character for both teams. The Redskins need to stay closer to the top of the first round with their pick. If they did pull this trade, their next move would probably be to package many of the picks and move back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSKINS Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 they would never even dream of doing that. Wow there front office is the S***. They have 2 1st round picks. Dam we need to get Scott Pioli or what ever his name is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhunter7 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 it seems like every other year they have multiple first round draft picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 they do one thing we don't, value draft picks. They find starters in the later rounds, we seldom do. They may be willing to part with their 2 firsts for our first, but that's about it. And hence my other point, the Pats do find talent despite having later round picks each year. Their team still hasn't seemed ot miss a beat since 2001 when they won their first super bowl. I would prefer a middle range first round pick in a trade down, along with a 2nd and 3rd, which should be doable hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinder Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 it seems like every other year they have multiple first round draft picks Yep, last season it was Branch (a 2nd round WR) for a 1st. They deal from a position of strength. Here is what happens when you deal from a position of weakness: best CB in the league and a 2nd for a RB 1st round QB in Ramsey for a 6th 1st round WR in Gardner for a 6th our highest paid safety in history for a 6th Its not rocket-science, faulty roster management plus desperation to get anything in return equals getting bent over in trades. When was the last time we managed to trade a mid-round player for a first round pick? I honestly can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 It would be a great trade for us and the numbers work out exactly right. The Pats do wheel and deal and they have had a very active offseason with free agency. To make a trade like that the Pats would have to feel that they already have most of their roster decided (therefore many of the picks wouldn't have a roster spot) and that they are just a player or two away from completing the puzzle. Under that scenario, if that player fell to us, it's possible they would do such a trade. The intriguing guys (in my limited understanding of the Pats) would probably be Peterson or Landy - one of which will be available at #6. To me not likely this would unfold, but not impossible either. Still I'd love that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Of course I'd be down for that but it isn't going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 1st round QB in Ramsey for a 6th 1st round WR in Gardner for a 6th our highest paid safety in history for a 6th Don't know how AA will do, but where is Ramsey and Gardner now. Granted at the time they looked like bad trades, but its hard to get middle round choices for guys like them. Carr just got cut because he couldn't get traded. He was a first rounder. Trent Green, who was amazing two years ago, is being shopped for a 7th. Everyone is valuing picks more than trades these days, well except for us. It's not that we trade away players for bad picks, but that we trade away good picks for bad players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinder Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Don't know how AA will do, but where is Ramsey and Gardner now. Granted at the time they looked like bad trades, but its hard to get middle round choices for guys like them. Carr just got cut because he couldn't get traded. He was a first rounder. Trent Green, who was amazing two years ago, is being shopped for a 7th. Everyone is valuing picks more than trades these days, well except for us. It's not that we trade away players for bad picks, but that we trade away good picks for bad players.... Ramsey is particularly galling because coach Gibbs reviewed the film on Ramsey and then immediately traded for Brunell. Ok fine. Afterwards there was at least one strong offer on the table from Miami for a QB that the coach clearly had little faith in. A another backup could have been found relatively easily. But we just sat on him. Granted, I don't expect to constantly get the better of every deal we make for picks, but it feels more like the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus82 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 they trade their players when they are productive. There is only a couple of players on the skins we can get 1st's for and most here would have a coronary if they did. The difference is NE doesn't care about what the fans think and the fans TRUST the NE patriots to make the right move. NE knows that the fans will still come irregardless of who they trade, they realize the fans know the team is more important then anyone player. So if one of their stars are going to want a huge payday and they can get a good trade the player is gone. Cough Cough Clinton Portis. Now they also have Brady who mskes the whole team better, they do have a couple of untouchables but for them their draft picks are some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 New England values the draft unlike us.. They want depth and uneeded depth as well.. They want draft pics to fill out thier roster.. do you want me to show you who they selected in the first few rounds in the past drafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 I agree it seems out of character for a team like New England to trade up big but I wouldn't be totally surprised. Look at their off-season so far and it is almost Redskin-like. A couple of big name signings (Thomas and Stallworth), the signing of a RFA and giving up a draft pick. Also, the one area they haven't really addressed in their secondary. they franchised Samuel and have doubts over Harrison's long term health so a move up for maybe Leon Hall or Landry could be a possibility. I still think it's unlikely but not totally beyond possible, the Pats seem very aggressive this off-season and maybe the feel they have let talent slip away the past couple of years and are going to boost it up big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Yep, last season it was Branch (a 2nd round WR) for a 1st.They deal from a position of strength. Here is what happens when you deal from a position of weakness: best CB in the league and a 2nd for a RB 1st round QB in Ramsey for a 6th 1st round WR in Gardner for a 6th our highest paid safety in history for a 6th Its not rocket-science, faulty roster management plus desperation to get anything in return equals getting bent over in trades. When was the last time we managed to trade a mid-round player for a first round pick? I honestly can't remember. Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Its new england. They make the rest of the league look like fools. Come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Carr just got cut because he couldn't get traded. He was a first rounder. Trent Green, who was amazing two years ago, is being shopped for a 7th. Everyone is valuing picks more than trades these days, well except for us. Uh, both of those guys would be a 7M+ cap hit for anyone accepting the trade knowing that if they just waited for him to be released they could get him for nothing. Not quite the same thing as the Ramsey or Gardner trades where we just didn't get anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 they would never even dream of doing that. Wow there front office is the S***. They have 2 1st round picks. Dam we need to get Scott Pioli or what ever his name is. Annnnnnnd they WIN Superbowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 it takes 2 to tango a deal might be fair point wise but unless someone feels the need to trade up we're gonna be at #6. if we trade down solely to trade down we'll get ripped off. if somone wants to trade up we can easily snag more points than the 6th pick is worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 if we could get them to do that I say great. It sounds way too good to be true though, may the Texans might pull the trigger on a cherry deal like that though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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