Skinsinparadise Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Feel free anyone to correct me. Having nothing to do fun relating to the NFL these days I am resorting to reading every mock NFL draft that I can find. I've noticed of late some patterns. Raiders -- Russell: seems like 90% of em saying now that they will take Russell with the first. Seems to be a few that think they will select Williams. Some say Quinn but Russell seems to be the hot choice. Lions -- Thomas: am seeing now more and more people saying they will draft Joe Thomas. Quinn was once the hot pick for them and some say it will still happen but Thomas seems to be the hot choice right now. Browns -- Peterson. This just recently got hot. Kiper seems to be touting him as a guy with a ton of buzz that's only growing. Tampa Bay: Johnson or trade down: If Johnson is still here the buzz seems to be that that's who they will choose or trade down. Some say they could take Branch, Adams, or Anderson. Cardnals: Branch, Anderson, or Adams: Most draft boards have it if Joe Thomas drops to the Cardnals pick they will take him if not they will take either Branch, Adams, and Anderson. As to which player they take its all over the map between those three players. Redskins: Branch, Anderson, or Adams: The Skins are all over the map as to which one of those three players they get. Could end up being all BS, who knows what really happens but that seems to be the summary based on what I've been seeing. Just fun speculating. Trade Downs: Looks like our best chance is if some team really wants Quinn or whatever left over player is there from Branch, Anderson, and Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Martz in Det said he sees no need for a QB so thats why Quinn is being removed from their pick on boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Williams? you obviously mean Calvin Johnson. None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 yep sorry I did mean Johnson, I'll correct that thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I think our best chance for a trade down is is Calvin Johnson falls to us at #6. Maybe Tampa passes on him, who knows. If Minnesota can sign a FA QB, then they would probably go WR in the draft. Maybe we could trade with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darc Requiem Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Williams? you obviously mean Calvin Johnson. None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... :doh: :doh: :doh: Did someone forget the fiasco that was our defense last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Williams? you obviously mean Calvin Johnson. None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... I'm not sure I agree with you here. I think all 3 are worthy of a top 10 pick, especially Branch. I'm a fan of Penn St so I watch alot of Big Ten football, and while I find myself cringing doing it, I must give that Wolverine his due props. He's a friggin beast, and we desperately need someone in the middle. I like Branch and Adams, but I don't think DE is as much a priority. And I seriously doubt the number 31 ranked defense in the NFL takes an offensive player with their first pick, unless it's trade bait for a defensive player. Trading down isn't a terrible option, but I'd rather have the best DT in the draft than two decent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 There's no way CJ falls to the sixth spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I hear every year that there is no d lineman worth where we are picking... isn't it unreal. Anderson seems to have good size, motor, quickness, and has been productive on the field, plus is a double digit sack guy in the level he has experience at. What more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0mega Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Martz in Det said he sees no need for a QB so thats why Quinn is being removed from their pick on boards. Blowing smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 The Draft is all about value ... not need ... if you go for need you bet very burned just like the Texans did last year with Williams over Bush. Branch is a sure BUST candidate ... he is lazy and has no instincts ... he was completely lost in the games against OSU and USC. Anderson is a Junior and not physically ready for the NFL whereas Adams is a weight-room warrior dressed in a LBer's body ... another Andre Carter type. This Draft will not provide immediate help for the Skins defense ... so forget it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... Why would we need Brady Quinn exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderMustGo Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Browns -- Peterson. This just recently got hot. Kiper seems to be touting him as a guy with a ton of buzz that's only growing. This is not what I have seen. Most of the mocks I have seen have the Browns taking Quinn. The Browns desperately need a QB. I don't see any way they pass over a franchise QB for a RB who can't stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Heidenreich ... stretch your mind ... everyone needs a Brady Quinn or a Peyton Manning or a Tom Brady ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Williams? you obviously mean Calvin Johnson. None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... Coming from the guy that claims Sean Taylor was a bust. A Jamaal Anderson type player can make an immediate impact. JA is in the Julius Peppers mold an if we can expect that sort of play, were looking at 30ish tackles, 12 sacks, 5 FF, and 1 interception (looking at rookie season). That's an immediate impact that will instantly make our defense a whole lot better. Throw in Terdell Sands and we have a pretty decent interior, and thus our defense looks better. With a pass rush, our secondary will look better and you'll come to your senses and realize that Sean Taylor is our best playmaker. BTW, we don't need Peterson, Quinn, or really, even CJ. Give Campbell time to develop some timing with his receivers, and you'll see a big big improvement in our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Williams? you obviously mean Calvin Johnson. None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... lol at offensive impact player while our defense goes down the toilet. although i agree about trading down, unless the skins seriously think branch or anderson is good enough to make an immediate impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 STaylor is a bust until proven otherwise ... he is entering his 4th year. JAnderson is a fantasy just like Mario Williams ... this stuff about being a Julius Peppers is a dream not a reality ... get real. It typically takes three years for a defensive lineman to mature in the NFL. Case in point: Tommy Harris of the Bears. Even JP was lost his rookie year. The Skins need to grab a DE, 2 linebackers, a CB and a Safety on FA to improve the defense IMMEDIATELY and I think they will. The Draft is just gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... Wow: this is just plaing wrong, wrong, wrong. Any of those 3 are obvious top 10 picks -- unless something happens between now and the draft that changes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 STaylor is a bust until proven otherwise ... he is entering his 4th year. JAnderson is a fantasy just like Mario Williams ... this stuff about being a Julius Peppers is a dream not a reality ... get real. It typically takes three years for a defensive lineman to mature in the NFL. Case in point: Tommy Harris of the Bears. Even JP was lost his rookie year. The Skins need to grab a DE, 2 linebackers, a CB and a Safety on FA to improve the defense IMMEDIATELY and I think they will. The Draft is just gravy. Sean Taylor is a bust? JP was lost his rookie year? He had 12 sacks and an interception. Do some research before making such bold statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 If JP had 12 sacks his rookie year that is very impressive, but Peppers is the exception not the rule. Saying Anderson, Branch or whatever is the second coming of Julius or will help the Skins immediately on Defense is far bolder a statement ... it is based only on wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 STaylor is a bust until proven otherwise ... he is entering his 4th year. JAnderson is a fantasy just like Mario Williams ... this stuff about being a Julius Peppers is a dream not a reality ... get real. It typically takes three years for a defensive lineman to mature in the NFL. Case in point: Tommy Harris of the Bears. Even JP was lost his rookie year. The Skins need to grab a DE, 2 linebackers, a CB and a Safety on FA to improve the defense IMMEDIATELY and I think they will. The Draft is just gravy. Alright, by your logic, CJ is a fantasy just like Charles Rogers. I like how you cited ONE player to define the whole league at that position while slamming my use of Julius Peppers of an impact rookie defensive player. We need a DT, a LB, and a solid CB, and this defense will improve immediately. Overhauling the defense completely won't help a unit that is already lacking in chemistry, plus, how are we going to pay for it? and pay ANOTHER receiver a massive salary. Besides, we were scoring pretty well our last couple games with Jason Campbell. So really we just need to focus on limiting other teams scoring and not scoring more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggoraider Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Peck, You are fighting a losing battle. The best you can do is let the draft come and go. This is the only way that these guys are going to know that we are not getting Anderson, Branch nor Adams at 6. It would be down right stupid to pick any ONE defensive player with that pick when you are in need of so much on that unit. It'll probably be a trade down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Riggo ... you and I are the only two on this Board with brains or so it seems ... But I will not stop my peeving ... it makes me feel better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 and here comes the calvin johnson offensive juggernaut brigade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Williams? you obviously mean Calvin Johnson. None of the 3 defensive players ... Branch, Anderson, or Adams is worth a top 10 pick ... let alone No. 6 ... the Skins must use #6 on an offensive impact player ... (Quinn, Petersen or Johnson) or trade down, down, down .... Yeah right. That would be the most foolish move yet. The obvious needs are on defense and the idea of overpaying for other teams castoffs instead of using the draft is why our defense has to use smoke and mirrors or what they call packages. The offense is not in need of the flashy-flashy-shiny-shiny trinkets. AsColins said back in camp it will take a year for the new offense to click and we did well using redskins football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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