pogoism9 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 i'm certain CP isn't going anywhere. Duckett is the expendable one. You guys always think that if someone isnt in the spotlight they are gone in the offseason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestrash Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Good to hear. My only point was why are we pitying an NFL player just because he might have a little more competition? To me, anything that improves our team makes me happy. If that means ridding ourselves of all our big names and fan favorites and winning with no-names, that's perfectly fine by me. If it means keeping Portis and winning with him, I'm cool with that also. I just don't see why so many people feel bad for players when they are doing just fine. I gotcha, man, and definitely couldn't agree more with the 2nd paragraph. I don't REALLY feel sorry for CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Cooley and Taylor need to be extended. It's time to start sending out the message that despite past mistakes - from now on we will reward homegrown talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Emrys Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Hopefully this is a sign that Gibbs (notice I didn't say the front office) has learned from some past mistakes. Portis is the superior back, hands down. We need both, and I hope Gibbs knows that. The only reason Portis leaves is if he becomes discontent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz4evr Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Keeping Betts to spell Portis is a great idea. If Betts is half as good as so many people think, why would we need a "change of pace" back when he can hammer too? Just put the fresh legs out there and he should give us the same performance next year. I'm glad Betts is re-signed and happy he stayed with us. This is a good sign that the coaches haven't lost the players and can get us back on track next year. Now if they can fix the playcalling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I do not think that we would trade CP in favor of Betts. If we did trade CP, I think it would be to gain draft picks and also got some type of player in return. Basically, to help rebuild this team. Are we rebuillding? If so, then CP gets traded. If not, then I see us using two backs like the majority of the league is already doing. So, basically, Duckett was a wasted roster spot? Or do we keep Betts and Duckett and trade CP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I hate foreshadowing, but here it goes...Portis 5'11" 212lbs Betts 5'10" 223lbs Duckett 6'0" 254lbs I do not know how contracting works out, but I have been hearing all year on this baord and through reports about how Saunders wants have Betts love child. Now seeing Portis's trade value (thats not debatable) do you really think it is that far fetched for The FO to use Portis for trade bait? The guy is stellar and we may be able to get some draft picks, a shutdown CB with a kicker, another aggressive right DE (Freeney comes to mind). I like our defense right now, but if Springs goes we are going to need another body back there to take his place. Carlos Rogers has really stepped up his game and will only get better with time. He completley shut down Smith with no help. Thats impressive. I would not want to see Portis go, but he really is not a Gibbs prototypical back. Thats a fact. Betts has obviously been impressing Saunders and Duckett is a Gibbs prototypical back. With those two splitting carries, you dont really need a superstar RB to do all the work. Split carries, change schemes, keep the defenses on their toes. I hate to say it, but I was wrong a few months back when I stated in another thread that Parcells scheme would not work with splitting carries. Right now they are tearing everyone up. Duckett is in no way going to sign here without testing the market.....and he'll only come back if we throw him a bunch of $$$. His case is much different than Betts, who is a home grown player who wanted to stay here. TJ has no such ties.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I'm ecstatic Betts re-signed but lets not get carried away with his last two starts. Betts is solid but Portis can be spectacular. Betts can never make the move that Portis made v. the Eagles on his 2nd td run down there in the finale. Betts has also played his last two games at home, one against a ver ypoor run defense. I expect to see a 23-10 split in carries between portis and Betts next year with Betts also playing as the primary 3rd down back. Parcells is right, you need two back in the NFL today with the hitting going on out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsaddict Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 i have to give props to the guy who does the salary cap numbers. He is a genious keeping us out of cap hell and our players happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I hate foreshadowing, but here it goes...Portis 5'11" 212lbs Betts 5'10" 223lbs Duckett 6'0" 254lbs I do not know how contracting works out, but I have been hearing all year on this baord and through reports about how Saunders wants have Betts love child. Now seeing Portis's trade value (thats not debatable) do you really think it is that far fetched for The FO to use Portis for trade bait? The guy is stellar and we may be able to get some draft picks, a shutdown CB with a kicker, another aggressive right DE (Freeney comes to mind). I like our defense right now, but if Springs goes we are going to need another body back there to take his place. Carlos Rogers has really stepped up his game and will only get better with time. He completley shut down Smith with no help. Thats impressive. I would not want to see Portis go, but he really is not a Gibbs prototypical back. Thats a fact. Betts has obviously been impressing Saunders and Duckett is a Gibbs prototypical back. With those two splitting carries, you dont really need a superstar RB to do all the work. Split carries, change schemes, keep the defenses on their toes. I hate to say it, but I was wrong a few months back when I stated in another thread that Parcells scheme would not work with splitting carries. Right now they are tearing everyone up. Nice post. :applause: RBs ARE replaceable. Is CP, as a player and leader for this team replaceable? Not really, although this team would still survive without him. I would hate to see him go but, I want to see the Skins winning again. Whatever it takes for us to do that, no matter who has to go because of it (as long as it is for the best interest of this team and not because someone was a "snitch" ala Springs).. If you take a look around the league and you see guys like Laurence Maroney who made an impact in their first year. DeAngelo Williams from the Panthers is in the same boat. Mike Bell from Denver. It is known for rookies to make an impact in carrying the ball. It is possible for this team to get better without Portis. It may not be the favorite move but, a move that can help out this team in a HUGE way. This offseason will be interesting as to how it will play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Duckett is in no way going to sign here without testing the market.....and he'll only come back if we throw him a bunch of $$$. His case is much different than Betts, who is a home grown player who wanted to stay here. TJ has no such ties.... The only ties that TJ has with this team is Joe Gibbs--The former, partial, owner of the Falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I agree with thoses who think the Skins have too much $$$ invested in the RB slot. Not a good move IMO ... skins should have let Betts test the market ... then offer him a lower contract. The $$$ should go to resigning Cooley and Dockery. The FO still does not know what it is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 5 year extension for 11M. A 3.5M signing bonus and a 2M roster bonus in 07. After his recent performance I think he could have done a little better on the open market. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2691260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I agree with thoses who think the Skins have too much $$$ invested in the RB slot. Not a good move IMO ... skins should have let Betts test the market ... then offer him a lower contract. The $$$ should go to resigning Cooley and Dockery. The FO still does not know what it is doing.People complain that we dont resign players we draft and we let everyone walk. Then we go ahead and resign a player thats been here for a few years and people still complain. Having a good back up running back is a must in this league today. If Tomlinson or Johnson went down where would there teams be right now. Portis went down and we havent really missed a beat of yet with Betts in the backfield. I am glad we resigned him even if we do have a lot of money invested. I am more comfortalbe that we have a guy thats been here 4 years I believe and knows everyone on this team and has chemistry with the rest of his teammates. Anyone see what Sellers said? He wasnt going to let Betts leave. Great move by the FO and please let this continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammy487 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Sounds good. Who's next? I'm hopeing a praying that its COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I agree with thoses who think the Skins have too much $$$ invested in the RB slot. Not a good move IMO ... skins should have let Betts test the market ... then offer him a lower contract. The $$$ should go to resigning Cooley and Dockery. The FO still does not know what it is doing. Once a guy goes on the open market, you don't know what will happen once other teams get involved. Basically, once you let a player get the free agency, you better be prepared to lose the player. One thought about TJ Duckett. I wonder if there are some thoughts in the organization as to making him a fullback. As good as Sellars has been, he's on the wrong side of 30, and Duckett is 6 years younger. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Once a guy goes on the open market, you don't know what will happen once other teams get involved. Basically, once you let a player get the free agency, you better be prepared to lose the player.One thought about TJ Duckett. I wonder if there are some thoughts in the organization as to making him a fullback. As good as Sellars has been, he's on the wrong side of 30, and Duckett is 6 years younger. Jason I dont think TJ has the same punch you in the month mentality as Sellers. Sellers like to hit people, I just dont see that in Duckett when he has ran. Sellers lowers his head and doesnt shy away from contact which is something I have not seen yet from Duckett. I dont honestly think TJ can be a fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadyjr Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 This looks to be a solid move with Betts, especially with the enormous projected salary cap increase over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknfan Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Thank Goodness! I was hoping that he would want to stay! :helmet: :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckDallas81 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 man I'm glad thats done Betts is a big part of our offense and he would have been hard to replace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSkins Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 great move to reward Betts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailRiggoRanger Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 5 year extension for 11M. A 3.5M signing bonus and a 2M roster bonus in 07. After his recent performance I think he could have done a little better on the open market.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2691260 Decent extension for the Skins. Seems like Betts was willing to give up a .5 million/season to stay a Redskin, considering I think he could have gotten about 2.5-3 million more as a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2691260 Ladell Betts considered hitting the lucrative free-agent market in 2007, but he opted to go with the safe money of the Washington Redskins. Betts, 28, signed a five-year extension Friday worth $11 million, but the key was in the early payout of the deal. He got $3.5 million in signing bonus money this year and a $2 million roster bonus in 2007. With half of the money going to him early, Betts figured it was the best of all worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 search before you post something.. this is redskins nation.. we hear about everything before everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I got blasted and "no new threaded" for the last 3 months...... mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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