TD_washingtonredskins Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ramsey is a good backup QB. If he needs to play in a pinch, his physical tools will allow him to run a stripped-down playbook and give you a good shot to win (vs. Tennessee in 2002, vs. NY last year). However, once he has EVERYTHING to think about, he thinks too much and isn't nearly as effective. It's not a horrible thing in life to be a career backup QB. He'll make plenty of money, get plenty of glory, and live a good life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunPortisRun Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I blame everyone but Ramsey. I blame Spurrier. I blame Gibbs for not giving him a fair chance. I blame Brunell for taking his starting job and I blame the playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroSweets Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Maybe he can go to Seattle and get beat out by Gibran Hamdan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ramsey is the next Favre, alright. But it's the Favre that threw 30 picks last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpNorth Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 Maybe he can go to Seattle and get beat out by Gibran Hamdan. Who is Gibran Hamdan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ramsey has always thought he deserved to be a starter despite never having shown on the field that he has earned it. Steve McNair sat on the bench for how long after being a top pick before he became the starter in Tennessee? Even Carson Palmer sat as a rookie. Joe Theismann was 28 when he finally became the starting qb of the Redskins. Ramsey was allowed to rule the roost during a period in which the coaching here was poor and there was no leadership. If Gibbs had drafted Ramsey, PR like Arrington would never have developed this exaggerated sense of himself. Another crystal clear post by bulldog. Sometimes our fans get caught up with emotion vs. the reality of performance of a player. PR is a nice guy...just not a starting qb in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I don't think coaches care whether the QB "rubs them the wrong way." I mean, when you look at some of the QBs who have won Super Bowls - Jim McMahon... our own Joe T - a lot of them come across as real, um, buttheads. Dan Marino strikes me as a terribly obnoxious person. No one ever made him go to the #2 field to run fade routes. Patrick may just not be that skilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121046 Ramsey, in his second chance to work with the starting unit, was spotty in the day's only practice. In red-zone drills, he was intercepted twice and overthrew an open Jerricho Cotchery. Ramsey rallied late in the practice, hooking up with Justin McCareins for a TD on a nice fade route. seems that ramsey stilo of being a slow starter is really hurting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwater Ally Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I blame everyone but Ramsey. I blame Spurrier. I blame Gibbs for not giving him a fair chance. I blame Brunell for taking his starting job and I blame the playbook. I hate the playbook too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Who is Gibran Hamdan? Former Redskins QB picked out of Indiana ...now playing for Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 nice sig leonard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 The Jets were the best chance for him to become a starter. Their starter for the last two seasons had suffered injuries that most QBs don't really recover from, add in the fact he's never had much of an arm before the injury and you would think the team would welcome Ramsey's cannon. Then you have Bollinger, who's never going to be a starter in this league, another rookie, and you would think that Ramsey would be head and shoulders above all the other quarterbacks by the first pre-season game. Yet he's not, matter of fact, he's achieved the rare ability to play himself out of practice reps...wow. It's pretty obvious that Ramsey just has no feel for the quarterback position. He has all the tools, yet none of the more important ones, like feel for the pocket, gameday management, or leadership qualities. He has the tools that allowed him to get drafted high and that's it. Which just shows how flawed the whole drafting process is. It's all about talent, and very little about the intangiblies. When realistically, both categories should be evaluated evenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 If Gibbs had drafted Ramsey... Gibbs would have never drafted Ramsey. Even Spurrier didn't want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Ramsey will find himself on a roster come week 1. Maybe not the Jets, but he will be ona roster somewhere. Good Luck Pat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Anybody want to drag out the Gibbs or Ramsey poll from last September? I just wish that poll showed names of who voted for who. Egg on face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cronos190 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 i truely second that opinion, i told a friend that just the other day. i'm sorry to hear about his misfortunes. on a side note, if he does get cut, we as the redskin nation should say thank you again to the jets, this time for a "free" draft pick. What was the draft pick that we got for Ramsey? Wasn't it 6th or 7th round? Who did we get with that pick? On another note, was Spurrier's first year also Ramsey's rookie year? Bcus I remember Dan W., Shane Matthews, etc... as the starters instead of Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I just wish that poll showed names of who voted for who. Egg on face. If I remember correctly, the results of that poll at least partly inspired Henry's sig line. Or I may have just fabricated that in my head. I don't think he said anything, I just sort of figured it at the time. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFischer37 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Steve Spurrier is to blame for PR's demise..that game against N.O. years ago where he was thrown to the ground like a punching bag has forever rattled him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Anybody want to drag out the Gibbs or Ramsey poll from last September? Enjoy these pathetic bastages in all their glory: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113738 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2541849 Ramsey struggles in scrimmage 4-9 for 33 yards. He did work with the 2nd team offense though which I guess is a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 He's in real trouble, folks. He stunk it up in the scrimmage -- looked tentative and had happy feet. But more importantly, Brooks Bollinger has been shining in practice as of late. Pennington and Clemens are locks to make the team. If Bollinger continues to play well and PR continues to not, the Jets might eat that one year extension and simply cut Ramsey. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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