lovetoaster Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) If Hendo beats Jonathan I'm going to react like the comeback in 2005 against the Cowhumpers. Same here man. I know Hendo is the underdog, but he has been an underdog before and come through. I just don't like that far too many people are completely looking past the Hendo-Jones fight to what is next for Jones. That is dangerous. And...not so fast for the Vera-Shogun getting a title shot... UFC changes tune, UFC on FOX 4's Bader-Machida winner also possible for title shotLAS VEGAS – On Monday Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White announced that UFC on FOX 4 headliners Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (20-6 MMA, 4-4 UFC) and Brandon Vera (12-5 MMA, 8-5 UFC) are competing this weekend for a shot at the promotion's light-heavyweight title. He later told USA TODAY Sports/MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that co-headliners Ryan Bader (14-2 MMA, 7-2 UFC) and Lyoto Machida (17-3 MMA, 9-3 UFC) also will have that opportunity. "Whoever wins the most impressively on Saturday night gets the shot at the title," White said. White's decision comes after a rash of fan backlash following his original announcement. UFC's social-media-savvy fanbase immediately took to Twitter to protest the decision while citing Rua's recent losses to both current champion Jon Jones and the champ's UFC 151 opponent, Dan Henderson – as well as Vera's current run of just one win in four appearances – as reasons why the bout did not deserve to be considered a No. 1 contender's contest. White said he listened to the complaints, and he's making a change. http://mmajunkie.com/news/29944/ufc-changes-tune-ufc-on-fox-4s-bader-machida-winner-also-possible-for-title-shot.mma Edited July 31, 2012 by lovetoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Personally, my ideal outcome would be for Shogun to plow through Vera in entertaining fashion and get the next title shot. If Bones beats Hendo then Bones/Shogun is a great rematch, if Hendo beats Bones, Shogun/Hendo was one of the best fights I've ever seen so I'd be just as happy with that rematch too. My 2nd pick would be Machida. As Machida/Bones would be a great rematch (I thought Machida easily won the first round in their fight) and of course Machida/Hendo would be a great fight as well. ---------- Post added July-31st-2012 at 10:24 AM ---------- btw here's a schedule for combat sports in the Olympics: http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/413855/MMA-fans-NBC-Olympic-schedule/ It includes wrestling (freestyle & greco), boxing, judo, and TKD. I wish they would show more judo but you can probably find it online somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Bones, Silva, and GSP are responsible for my recently casual attitude toward the UFC. I just can't get up for a title fight in those weight classes anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Personally, my ideal outcome would be for Shogun to plow through Vera in entertaining fashion and get the next title shot. If Bones beats Hendo then Bones/Shogun is a great rematch, if Hendo beats Bones, Shogun/Hendo was one of the best fights I've ever seen so I'd be just as happy with that rematch too. Same thing I am thinking, and I am sure this is what Dana is thinking as well. Honestly, this is the way it should go, although either Bader or Machida are both capable of highlight reel finishes. I guess we will see on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hendo will not beat Bones. Rua will not beat Bones. Machida will not beat Bones. Bader will not beat Bones. Vera will not beat anyone deserving of a title shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) Must, resist, picking, Vera. Hard....to....resist. Shogun via TKO rd 2 Man, if Vera wins I'll be PISSED, because I think he can trade with Shogun for a while. If Vera is in great shape, who can't see Shogun slowing down? The only reason he wasn't killed in the Hendo fight is because Hendo was gassed and on Planet-X seeing unicorns for the last 2 rounds. If Shogun can't put him away, I can see Vera chipping away. It's just too easy to see Shogun landing something slick as hell and closing the deal quicker than you can say "Caralho!" Machida vs. Bader? I think Bader's in trouble. If he wins by finishing Machida I might as well give up rationalizing fight predictions. Edited August 4, 2012 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Shogun only loses if he has nothing left in the tank. 60% of Shogun is still better than 100% of Brandon Vera. Bader has to find a way to get in the clinch or get it to the ground, he will be abused on the feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 According to Mike Goldberg, Phil Davis choked out Tim Boetsch with a kimura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 According to Mike Goldberg, Phil Davis choked out Tim Boetsch with a kimura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Swick is an animal. Damn that was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 The Edgar-Henderson promo makes me upset I don't think Edgar deserved a rematch. Put Anthony vs Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Fight of the Night so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Great fight. ---------- Post added August-4th-2012 at 06:20 PM ---------- Beautiful finish by Machida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Machida just Lyoto'ed Bader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 That was a classic Machida straight punch. Slip, throw it wide, blip. Looked like what he cracked Rashad with, except with the right hand this time. Follow up punches were bullseyes, another especially beautiful KO from Machida. Shogun needs to hit an upper deck HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 The Edgar-Henderson promo makes me upset I don't think Edgar deserved a rematch. Put Anthony vs Henderson Of course he does. Most of the time when a Champ loses there is an automatic rematch especially a guy like Edgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) After 3 I have Shogun by a slim margin. Vera is showing a LOT of heart and skill, surprisingly. I wanna see him fight again regardless of the outcome of this fight. Both guys are gassing hard though. Machida should definitely get the rematch with Jon Jones. Excellent card overall. Success. Edited August 5, 2012 by styx491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Of course he does. Most of the time when a Champ loses there is an automatic rematch especially a guy like Edgar. Guess we gonna have to agree to disagree. Shogun performance was a disappointment. He needs to stop gassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 As a Shogun fan, I pray they give Machida the title shot. Shogun does not need to take the kind of punishment Bones will put on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Great fight to watch! Congrats to Rua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 As a Shogun fan, I pray they give Machida the title shot.Shogun does not need to take the kind of punishment Bones will put on him. Shoguns chin saved him this fight. He got tagged way too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Shoguns chin saved him this fight. He got tagged way too many times. You can tell his body is breaking down. He is nowhere near as fast and his technique fading faster each fight. Bones literally beat him into submission, he was then pounded on by Henderson and his H-Bomb for 25min. His body is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Of course he does. Most of the time when a Champ loses there is an automatic rematch especially a guy like Edgar. In MMA? That's a boxing thing to have the second payday right away if the champ loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 The only problem with Machida getting the shot is that tonight is his only win since he was choked unconscious by Bones. I could see him getting a rematch if the first fight was close, but I think he needs more than 1 win before jumping the line. Machida vs. Gustafsson for #1 contender makes the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 You can tell his body is breaking down. He is nowhere near as fast and his technique fading faster each fight.Bones literally beat him into submission, he was then pounded on by Henderson and his H-Bomb for 25min. His body is done. Yep, he has been fighting a long time. He is an ole 30 plus the knee surgeries Shogun might need to think of retiring before he goes the Chuck route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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