StillUnknown Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 UFC on FOX 5 has potential to be one of the GOAT UFC events. We just have to hope injuries don't ruin the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 We just have to hope injuries don't ruin the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 UFC Fox on 5 in December is loaded:Ben Henderson vs. Nate Diaz Shogun vs. Gustaffson Penn vs. MacDonald Holy moly. I get the sick feeling I will see two of my all-time faves get retired... violently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Holy moly. I get the sick feeling I will see two of my all-time faves get retired... violently. I think Shogun can stick around for 3 rounds with Gus. He might be begging for a third lung by the time the fight is done, but what a chin on that man. Same with BJ. Easy to see him getting through the fight. Whether he wins or loses is another story. I actually like BJ's chances. Rory has mechanical standup and seems to be preoccupied with the obsession of slamming people on their backs. If Stay Puft Penn can stay off his back early in the rounds, there's a decent chance of him derailing the train. I think the worst beatdown is coming via Nate Diaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) http://vigilantemma.com/2012/08/16/breaking-news-cerrone-vs-pettis-at-ufc-on-fox-5-will-be-for-next-ufc-title-shot/ We’ve heard rumors and speculation, but a source has just confirmed to VigilanteMMA that Donald Cerrone and Anthony Pettis will be added to UFC on Fox 5—and it will be a number one contender’s fight. Not only is this event shaping up to be one huge show, but the added stipulation should create quite a buzz for the latest fight being added to the card.Pettis has been waiting for his title shot ever since he defeated Ben Henderson for the WEC title. But his hands will be full with Cowboy. Cerrone has run off six wins in seven UFC fights and like Pettis, tends to be a crowd pleaser every time out. This one is sure to fire up the fans. The other three fights already announced for the show are a lightweight title fight between Henderson and Nate Diaz; Mauricio “Shogun” Rua vs. Alexander Gustafsson; and BJ Penn vs. Rory MacDonald. The title eliminator between Cerrone and Pettis could steal the show. We’ve also learned that the contract is now in the hands of Pettis for final approval. Although he apparently hasn’t signed it yet, Cerrone has already started pressuring Pettis to do so in quick fashion. As Dana White hoped, the lightweight division is on fire right now, just days after the Henderson/Edgar fight ended the string of re-matches for the UFC belt. If true, this makes the greatest UFC card of all time even better. What a show! Edited August 16, 2012 by styx491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 http://vigilantemma.com/2012/08/16/breaking-news-cerrone-vs-pettis-at-ufc-on-fox-5-will-be-for-next-ufc-title-shot/If true, this makes the greatest UFC card of all time even better. What a show! Good lord, what a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think the worst beatdown is coming via Nate Diaz. That certainly seems to be the popular opinion. I'm less convinced. I certainly don't see a reason why Diaz can't win but I think he'll deal with more trouble (especially early due to his penchant for being a slow starter) than most folks analyzing this matchup. I do see your points on Rua and Penn being able to overcome their age to foil the young upstart opponents though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) I think the worst beatdown is coming via Nate Diaz. http://www.bestfightodds.com/ Benson opened up a -340, its down to -210 now. I think it will be even money or Nate will be the slight favorite by the time the fight happens. I think Penn is taking the worst beating in the matches listed. If BJ were "in-shape & motivated" he'd still have hard time beating Rory. Fat BJ is getting destroyed. Edited August 16, 2012 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think Penn is taking the worst beating in the matches listed. If BJ were "in-shape & motivated" he'd still have hard time beating Rory. Fat BJ is getting destroyed. I really don't understand why BJ continues to try convincing us all that he trains hard for fights. He could walk away retaining the ultimate respect of his fans and peers but instead chips away at his own legend by continuing his career. I think he wants that one final big victory to step away on. It's certainly not about the money because even the biggest MMA fighters don't get that much for one purse. Not like boxing, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) http://www.bestfightodds.com/Benson opened up a -340, its down to -210 now. I think it will be even money or Nate will be the slight favorite by the time the fight happens. I think Penn is taking the worst beating in the matches listed. If BJ were "in-shape & motivated" he'd still have hard time beating Rory. Fat BJ is getting destroyed. It's true, Rory is so strong at 170, and Penn should be at 155. You can see one of those situations where when Jon Jones gets on top of someone you know **** is about to get real. Rory starts posturing up on BJ and you might want to turn away, Chach. I still give BJ a better than normal puncher's chance. In fact that term doesn't apply here. BJ's boxing is still a threat. Nick Diaz and Frankie Edgar are two of the best boxers in MMA, it's extremely easy to underrate BJ's boxing at this point. What really, really sucks, is that everything you can compliment BJ on has to be prefaced with "when he's not tired." Edited August 16, 2012 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 What really, really sucks, is that everything you can compliment BJ on has to be prefaced with "when he's not tired." Soooo, basically after round 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Awesome pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Every time Jon Jones opens his mouth I hate him a little bit more. "I don't want to fight Lyoto Machida. He was my lowest pay-per-view draw of last year. No one wants to see me fight Lyoto Machida. I don't want to fight Lyoto again. Lyoto is high risk and low reward. He's a tough fighter, but no one wants to buy that fight. Between (Mauricio) Shogun (Rua), (Quinton) Rampage (Jackson) and Rashad (Evans), Lyoto was my lowest draw. Why would I want to fight someone where it's a lose-lose situation? I won't make money on it. And he's a tricky fighter." What a DBag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Every time Jon Jones opens his mouth I hate him a little bit more.What a DBag Kinda has a point though. There was no ambiguity about the first fight. Machida shouldn't get a shot just because FOX executives wanted the fights on their card to have something at stake. Machida's 2-3 in his last 5 fights, including just one fight removed from being choked unconscious by Bones, he has done nothing to earn a rematch. Edited August 18, 2012 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Kinda has a point though. There was no ambiguity about the first fight. Machida shouldn't get a shot just because FOX executives wanted the fights on their card to have something at stake. Machida's 2-3 in his last 5 fights, including just one fight removed from being choked unconscious by Bones, he has done nothing to earn a rematch. He was the only guy to win a round against him. He get caught with a vicious elbow in the 2nd and then he was done. He is a former champ who was also considered unstoppable not that long ago. He deserves the shot as much as anyway. Couture domintaed Liddel in their first fight, but Chuck still got a rematch and he KO'd Randy in it. Rematches are part of your gig if you are on a championship run this days. And to qoute his PPV numbers? Give me a break, Pretty Boy. Rashad was right. This drunk driving DBag is a phony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 He was the only guy to win a round against him. He get caught with a vicious elbow in the 2nd and then he was done. He is a former champ who was also considered unstoppable not that long ago. He deserves the shot as much as anyway. Couture domintaed Liddel in their first fight, but Chuck still got a rematch and he KO'd Randy in it. Rematches are part of your gig if you are on a championship run this days. And to qoute his PPV numbers? Give me a break, Pretty Boy. Rashad was right. This drunk driving DBag is a phony. I'm not debating Bones' personality as I do not care about it, i'm simply saying that a guy who gets choked unconscious by the champ should have to win more than 1 fight before he gets another crack at the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Kind of a ***** thing for Jon Jones to say. Hopefully he eats an H-bomb and doesn't have to worry about facing Machida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hopefully he eats an H-bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Btw, other than Shogun, Machida would probably get the most ratings out of any rematch for Jones. Who really wants to see him rematch Evans? Probably no one, that fight was boring as ****. Anyone care to see a rematch with Rampage? Doubt it. Bader? lol. Machida makes the most sense if they aren't giving Shogun a rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I'm not debating Bones' personality as I do not care about it, i'm simply saying that a guy who gets choked unconscious by the champ should have to win more than 1 fight before he gets another crack at the belt. That is how it works in a muddled division sometimes. Better than the champ just taking a 9-12 month break. And Machida may have only won once wince the loss, but he is a former champ. That counts for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Reading between the lines of Bones' quote I get that he basically admits he could lose to Machida and he doesn't want to risk a loss unless he can make a lot of money losing, which he says Machida would negate as a draw. Wow. I hope Hendo drops the nuke. (I sincerely doubt it, but I hope it happens.) Edit- I also don't agree with Jones that there's a chance he could lose to Machida. Edited August 18, 2012 by Chachie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Jones is a douche. I can understand him saying machida didn't earn a title shot but that's not what he said. He said he doesn't wanna fight Machida because there's no money in it. Jones isn't the draw he thinks he is IMO. Early estimates are saying UFC 150 did about 150k ppv. Frankie isn't a draw IMO either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) That ref with the huge beard is pretty badass. I'm talking about the guy on the first Showtime fight btw. HOLY ****. Wow. Edited August 19, 2012 by styx491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 OSP with a left handed H-Bomb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Miesha Tate vs. Julie Kedzie was a Fight Of The Year type match on the prelims. Edited August 19, 2012 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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