CounterTrey Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I'm am so freaking Happy this got done..but I hope Taylor learns from this mistake not from the fact tha he almost went to jail but that someone sprayed his car with like 46 bullets - The kid almost died so pls SEAN TAYLOR just concentrate on killing TO and everyone else yr after yr!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 We will see how Sean Taylor responds to this Personally, I never expect to hear a peep out of him again after this incident. He was an immature punk coming out of the U, and this appears to have scared the daylights out of him, and scared him straight. But its only been a year. Sean Taylor has to prove himself as not only being great on the field, which he has been, but a model Redskins off the field. He has a ways to go there, but I expect him to be a solid citizen and represent the B&G very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINS STOMP Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 The NFL will not suspend Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Well damn, I called that one precisely like it unfolded. Taylor pleads no contest to misdemeanor charges and the DA decides to nolle prosse the charges in exchange for what amounts to community service. Let's hope Taylor learned his lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I wouldn't worry too much. Sean'll pobably plea to Tomfoolery and General Malfeasance and get 3 months in jail, along with some probation and community service; the prosecutor gets his conviction, 21 gets to continue his career, and everyone goes home happy. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2159942#post2159942 Where did I put my horn? Oh, here it is... TOOT TOOT! Ok, so I was wrong about the three months, but that was before all the business about the prosecutor switch and the endless trial delays came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Was anyone actually ever worried about this? This case was never more then a grandstanding prosecutor trying get his name in the papers. Too bad he ruined his career in the process. I hope he's a good DJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Whenever a case like that goes before a jury there is reason to be worried. The plea agreement worked out for both sides, the DAO gets to save face and Taylor gets to keep a clean rep sheet (assuming he gets his public records expunged). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinja Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Was anyone actually ever worried about this? This case was never more then a grandstanding prosecutor trying get his name in the papers. Too bad he ruined his career in the process. I hope he's a good DJ. i wasnt very worried but there was always that lingering thought in the back of my head that something bad would happen...for once it didn't. maybe we should make new ST shirts that just say "FREEDOM" on the front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Before any of you think that its completely over, remember this is like "probation", so if he screws up in the state of florida, all these charges rear thier ugly head again. :laugh: Is double jeopardy practiced in Florida now? What a weak ass trolling attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Was anyone actually ever worried about this? This case was never more then a grandstanding prosecutor trying get his name in the papers. Too bad he ruined his career in the process. I hope he's a good DJ. I'll be honest, I was worried about his absence from OTAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJT13 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Taylor most likely will be fined and/or suspended by the NFL. The league's Conduct Policy states -- "Any Covered Person convicted of or admitting to a criminal violation (including a plea to a lesser included offense; a plea of nolo contendere or no contest; or the acceptance of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, or similar arrangement) will be subject to discipline as determined by the Commissioner. Such discipline may include a fine, suspension without pay and/or banishment from the League." Ray Lewis was fined $250,000 for pleading no contest to obstruction of justice. Taylor is pleading no contest to assault and battery, which are considered crimes of violence. Those are considered the most serious crimes in the Conduct Policy -- "It will be considered conduct detrimental for Covered Persons to engage in (or to aid, abet or conspire to engage in or to incite) violent and/or criminal activity. Examples of such Prohibited Conduct include, without limitation: any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons; the use of a deadly weapon in the commission of a crime; possession or distribution of a weapon in violation of state or federal law; involvement in "hate crimes" or crimes of domestic violence; theft, larceny or other property crimes; sex offenses; racketeering; money laundering; obstruction of justice; resisting arrest; fraud; and violent or threatening conduct." Previously, players who have pleaded no contest to those types of charges have been suspended for one game (see Mike Doss, Leon Searcy, Leonardo Carson, Derrick Rodgers, Dwayne Carswell and Wayne Hunter, among others), so that's what I'd expect the NFL to do (unless it considers the crimes to be more serious because guns were involved, although Taylor denied that he had one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Before any of you think that its completely over, remember this is like "probation", so if he screws up in the state of florida, all these charges rear thier ugly head again. Not really. There won't be any probation per se. Taylor and the DA will agree on a timeframe during which Taylor has to complete his community service. Upon completion Taylor will be scott free, no strings attached. Should Taylor get into trouble BEFORE completing his community service that's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 The agreement, which will require the approval of Judge Leonard Glick, will be presented during a hearing Thursday morning in Miami-Dade County Circuit Court at the Richard E. Gerstein Justice Building.It all stems on what Mr. Judgee Leonard Glick thinks. Not over until the fat Lady...Man sings. Fingers are crossed. I noticed that too. Chances are he'll agree to it with some kind of probation attached: http://www.collegiatetimes.com/archive/2003-3/4/909.html If ST has to miss the first game then Smoot should have to as well, didn't he plead guilty to a misdemeanor? http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06147/693681-66.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I wonder how long we will know before we are told if the NFL is going to suspend him or not. If the NFL takes action, would it be sooner rather than later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Taylor most likely will be fined and/or suspended by the NFL. The league's Conduct Policy states --"Any Covered Person convicted of or admitting to a criminal violation (including a plea to a lesser included offense; a plea of nolo contendere or no contest; or the acceptance of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, or similar arrangement) will be subject to discipline as determined by the Commissioner. Such discipline may include a fine, suspension without pay and/or banishment from the League." Ray Lewis was fined $250,000 for pleading no contest to obstruction of justice. Taylor is pleading guilty to assault and battery, which are considered crimes of violence. Those are considered the most serious crimes in the Conduct Policy -- "It will be considered conduct detrimental for Covered Persons to engage in (or to aid, abet or conspire to engage in or to incite) violent and/or criminal activity. Examples of such Prohibited Conduct include, without limitation: any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons; the use of a deadly weapon in the commission of a crime; possession or distribution of a weapon in violation of state or federal law; involvement in "hate crimes" or crimes of domestic violence; theft, larceny or other property crimes; sex offenses; racketeering; money laundering; obstruction of justice; resisting arrest; fraud; and violent or threatening conduct." Previously, players who have pleaded no contest to those types of charges have been suspended for one game (see Mike Doss, Leon Searcy, Leonardo Carson, Derrick Rodgers, Dwayne Carswell and Wayne Hunter, among others), so that's what I'd expect the NFL to do (unless it considers the crimes to be more serious because guns were involved, although Taylor denied that he had one). This is a case of probation before judgment though, so I'm not sure if this applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJT13 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Smoot pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and being a public nuisance, which aren't crimes of violence. Every player I've found who pleaded guilty or no contest to crimes of violence (like Taylor) has been suspended for at least one game. Most of them were domestic disputes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJT13 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 This is a case of probation before judgment though, so I'm not sure if this applies. So were a lot of the examples I cited. Most of them pleaded no contest to lesser charges before going to trial, just like Taylor did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Fantastic News!!! Dude better not mess up the probation! Maybe the possibility of suspension is the reason we signed Dennard Wilson? Or maybe just chaulk that up to serious depth concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 So were a lot of the examples I cited. Most of them pleaded no contest to lesser charges before going to trial, just like Taylor did. Handfield said Taylor, the Redskins' No. 1 draft pick in 2004, has agreed to plead no contest to one misdemeanor battery charge and one misdemeanor assault charge. The deal includes a withholding of a conviction, Handfield said, and the dismissal of three charges of felony assault with a deadly weapon that each carried a mandatory minimum three-year sentence. Withholding of a conviction...could the NFL still penalize him even under those circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailVictory Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 It will be interesting to see what the NFL does with regards to fines or a suspension. The fact that this case has been dragged through the mud for the past year increases the odds of the NFL feeling obligated to hand down punishment. Add on to that the fact that Sean is a repeat offender for a littany of violations ranging from wrong colored socks to spitting on players -- they are indeed likely to levy some form of punishment. The good news is that I do believe Sean has been scared straight once he realized he could've spent 46 years in jail for acting like a tough guy. While I think he will still be prone to temper problems on and off the field, Sean will now be more likely spend time with his teammates in Washington than trolling sketchy neighborhoods in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I dont see why he will be suspended for a misdemeanor charge? In an nonsense case that didnt even make it to trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I dont see why he will be suspended for a misdemeanor charge? In an nonsense case that didnt even make it to trial. Can anyone explain what "withholding of a conviction" means? Is it the same as not guilty as long as he follows the terms of the plea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Can anyone explain what "withholding of a conviction" means? Is it the same as not guilty as long as he follows the terms of the plea? I'm pretty sure that it's a form of probation in which there is no punishment as long as he does what the court orders. It's like a tap on the wrist compared to the slap that is probation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaroopm Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Before any of you think that its completely over, remember this is like "probation", so if he screws up in the state of florida, all these charges rear thier ugly head again.You guys don't have to play the dolphins/tampa/jacksonville on the road this year do you? If so, i suggest locking ST in his hotel room until kickoff. heh heh - cowboy fan is grasping for straws...but you had to know it would play out this way sooner or later. Now we can get back to discussing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Comparing this to the Ray Lewis situaton is ridiculous. He obstructed justice in a case where his buddies allegedly murdered someone. The facts are sufficiently muddled here and the outcome so minimal that I really doubt the NFL would suspend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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