illone Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 This movie looks good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiP6dqPynE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballhenry Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Looks very good, I just wrote a paper on Global Warming and it truly is a staggering and scary thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I'd rather see the world come to an end, than to have to listen to All Bore for 90 minutes. Now, if they had a topless Hooter girl doing the narration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjcdaman Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Looks very good, I just wrote a paper on Global Warming and it truly is a staggering and scary thing. Did you also cite some sources that point out that the Earth goes though different phases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 ManBearPig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 All I can say is "Damn" Is this a real movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 Al Gore is a toolbag but I dont think he narrates the entire movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballhenry Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Did you also cite some sources that point out that the Earth goes though different phases? Of course it does but to the vast majority of the science community is in agreement over how much mankind has affected the world and that global warming is indeed a serious threat. I mean 6 billion people on Earth, VAST amounts of pollution/fumes being emitted via cars, trains, boats, nuclear plants, etc.; do you honestly beleive that we haven't contributed to the degradation of nature and the environment? Just to point out the 19 of the 20th hottest years ever have occured since 1980. The hottest being 98 and 05 I beleive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Some people here may be interested in reading the Michael Chrichton book "State of Fear." It utilizes this topic as a backdrop for a (well-written) fictional suspense-thriller, but is full of very real first-order citations on these matters. There is one main character who is a skilled "debunker" and others who are true-believers. There is an eventual storyline bias that emerges, but also an afterward by the author describing his more unsure POV. The handful of citations that I had time to check out were valid, and from reputable scientific sources. It's a fun read, and it was interesting to see the arguments laid out as a plot device that nevertheless read like a relatively high quality debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Nobody every talks about this chart: I added the comment to the bottom.... It shows a constant........change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 ManBearPig :laugh: :laugh: my thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinva Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 "I'm serial!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbiggs Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Nobody every talks about this chart: I added the comment to the bottom.... Yeah...mmmm....what did melt all of that ice age ice? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Love the South Park references guys--exactly what I was thinking of when I saw this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Some people here may be interested in reading the Michael Chrichton book "State of Fear." It utilizes this topic as a backdrop for a (well-written) fictional suspense-thriller, but is full of very real first-order citations on these matters. There is one main character who is a skilled "debunker" and others who are true-believers. There is an eventual storyline bias that emerges, but also an afterward by the author describing his more unsure POV. The handful of citations that I had time to check out were valid, and from reputable scientific sources. It's a fun read, and it was interesting to see the arguments laid out as a plot device that nevertheless read like a relatively high quality debate.I was pretty disappointed in that book. When I picked it up I was looking forward to a good scientific debate wrapped in a typically well-told Crichton tale. Instead, I was treated to a decent story but no actual debate. All proponents of global warming evidence were either shallow and empty-headed or deviously exploitative and even murderous. Opponents of gobal warming as an idea were highly competent and level-headed. The "believers" were children, the "debunkers" were adults, and the couple of believers who became debunkers went through a maturation process and became men before our very eyes. Most disapointing was the contention that global warming advocates cherry-pick their data. No doubt often true - but that is exactly what Crichton does throughout the book. Despite his backtracking in the afterward, including the somewhat facetious "everybody has an agenda except me", the novel presents a selective and biased viewpoint. I expected better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I was pretty disappointed in that book. When I picked it up I was looking forward to a good scientific debate wrapped in a typically well-told Crichton tale. Instead, I was treated to a decent story but no actual debate. All proponents of global warming evidence were either shallow and empty-headed or deviously exploitative and even murderous. Opponents of gobal warming as an idea were highly competent and level-headed. The "believers" were children, the "debunkers" were adults, and the couple of believers who became debunkers went through a maturation process and became men before our very eyes. Most disapointing was the contention that global warming advocates cherry-pick their data. No doubt often true - but that is exactly what Crichton does throughout the book. Despite his backtracking in the afterward, including the somewhat facetious "everybody has an agenda except me", the novel presents a selective and biased viewpoint. I expected better. While I enjoyed it more than you, apparently, you do give a fair critique. I found in interesting to about a dozen of his citations while I was researching something work-related. I use a university data base for that, which has easy access to a lot of peer review and professional journals and found his citations held up well. That was an area I hadn't pursued that extensively before. That "fun" may have accented the overall enjoyment I attach to reading the book, but again, I can see your points. Also, I can be a cheap date when it comes to adventure stories. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Yeah...mmmm....what did melt all of that ice age ice?Dan Duh. It was a combination of the internal combustion engine and aerosol spray cans. Don't you know anything???? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I was pretty disappointed in that book. When I picked it up I was looking forward to a good scientific debate wrapped in a typically well-told Crichton tale. Instead, I was treated to a decent story but no actual debate. All proponents of global warming evidence were either shallow and empty-headed or deviously exploitative and even murderous. Opponents of gobal warming as an idea were highly competent and level-headed. The "believers" were children, the "debunkers" were adults, and the couple of believers who became debunkers went through a maturation process and became men before our very eyes. Most disapointing was the contention that global warming advocates cherry-pick their data. No doubt often true - but that is exactly what Crichton does throughout the book. Despite his backtracking in the afterward, including the somewhat facetious "everybody has an agenda except me", the novel presents a selective and biased viewpoint. I expected better. Come on, man, lighten up. It was just fiction! I'm sorry. I just wanted to be the one using that line for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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