MorgantownHokie88 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Did anybody else hear this? I don't have confirmation????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I haven't heard this, but you should edit the thread title to include the word "Rumor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgantownHokie88 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 I just had somebody pass this information to me because he listens to Tony K on the web. I didn't know if it was speculation or if somebody is actually reporting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Rumor aside, I'd feel bad for Ramsey being sent up there. The Jets have a horrible offensive line --- he'll get killed up there. His most reliable target is The Toe. Pat can't catch a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 This wouldn't be shocking. What would be surprising though is if it was a straight up trade. I'd imagine we'd need to sweeten the pot with a draft choice. Abraham has shown a hell of a lot more than Ramsey and it's not like he plays long snapper. Pass-rushing ends are HARD to come by. Still, if the Jets are running the San Diego WCO, I'm not sure how Ramsey's skills fit. He has poor feet and average at best touch. Perhaps they are just looking for someone who is willing to take a beating behind a swiss cheese offensive line? Ramsey has that feather in his cap for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Did anybody else hear this? I don't have confirmation????? I don't see how this can happen, the Jets have franchised Abraham, meaning they get 2 1st round picks as compensation if anybody takes him. I think we'd be foolish to give up 2 future #1s for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't see how this can happen, the Jets have franchised Abraham, meaning they get 2 1st round picks as compensation if anybody takes him. I think we'd be foolish to give up 2 future #1s for this guy. That 2 #1 picks thing is if some other kind of deal can't be worked out -- that's the default. A swap involving another team's player and draft pick is not forbidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't see how this can happen, the Jets have franchised Abraham, meaning they get 2 1st round picks as compensation if anybody takes him. I think we'd be foolish to give up 2 future #1s for this guy. You should really read more... and post less. You might learn something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't see how this can happen, the Jets have franchised Abraham, meaning they get 2 1st round picks as compensation if anybody takes him. I think we'd be foolish to give up 2 future #1s for this guy. The tag is more of a shackle so that Abraham cant get away scott free into Free Agency, its not set in stone. They can lift the tag at any time to facilitate a trade. Saying that, im sure it's Ramsey and this years 2nd for Abraham if its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Rumor aside, I'd feel bad for Ramsey being sent up there. The Jets have a horrible offensive line --- he'll get killed up there. His most reliable target is The Toe. Pat can't catch a break. And to top it off thier best person on the line and 2 other people is about to leave. They ask Mawae for a paycut he said no si I guess they are going to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Wow... great news if true. But I wonder how we would afford Abraham given our current cap situation. Oh well, I'll let the bean counters figure that one out, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgantownHokie88 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well, I'm assuming that nobody else heard this then???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 If we do bring in J. Abraham we DO have cap room I can't wait till March 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 If we do bring in J. Abraham we DO have cap roomI can't wait till March 3rd How does that work? Very cool if true. As for the trade, I think we'll need to sweeten the deal with a first rounder, possibly a second. But I think there will be no getting around Ramsey + first rounder (2007 of course). jmho, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 How does that work?Very cool if true. As for the trade, I think we'll need to sweeten the deal with a first rounder, possibly a second. But I think there will be no getting around Ramsey + first rounder (2007 of course). jmho, of course. If we somehow brought in Abraham, A) we would have to have enough cap room to have his "rights" and he is going to cost a hell of a lot more against the cap then Ramsey will this year But it is the TK show, and I take everything with a grain of salt in terms of breaking sports news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The tag is more of a shackle so that Abraham cant get away scott free into Free Agency.........Saying that, im sure it's Ramsey and this years 2nd for Abraham if its true. I wouldn't be so certain that the price tag is that high for Abraham. They Pat Kirwin was talking about Abraham's situation on Sirius Satellite Radio last Friday. He said Abraham has the Jets over a barrel with or without the franchise tag because no team is going to straight up deal for Abraham, who wants a big contract unless Abraham handpicks the trade partner. They said Abraham could essentially veto any deal by publicly stating that he doesn't want to go to that place and dragging his feet with the completion of a physical. Kirwin was basically adding that a team wants to feel good about players that it acquires via a trade. I would love to see the front office work two thirds (this year and next year's if we have them) + Ramsey for Abraham. At this point the Jets are in a similar situation as we are in with Ramsey, with the exception that we have Ramsey contractually for another year and Abraham had to be tagged to get compensation for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36HAMMER Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 At this point the Jets are in a similar situation as we are in with Ramsey, with the exception that we have Ramsey contractually for another year and Abraham had to be tagged to get compensation for him. Also, the difference in salary is substantial. If tagged, Abraham costs the Jets over $8M, Ramsey would cost under $2M. For a team that needs a QB... and needs to trim space... the Jets might do it. Sometimes... cap relief is the value of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I haven't heard anything about this yet, but I'll keep my ears open here in NY & let you guys know if I hear anything. I would certainly love this deal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 i get all excited, and then realize the horse's ass (TK) is talking again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&GPride44 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Isn't it true that if they don't reach a new collective bargaining agreement then it would be an uncapped year...Music to Deep Pockets' Danny Boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Something to keep in mind as the rumors will be swirling fast and furious over the next couple of weeks is the fact that agents and FO executives will be using our team's name to up the ante. And why not? People will buy it. We've shown a history of using any means necessary to get the player we covet. The way to gauge the validity of these rumors is by the Gibbs/Cerrato's reaction. When King thumped his chest and pronounced the Skins to be the front-runner for TO about a month ago, the team quickly shot down the notion. This will happen again should people try to fabricate interest that we never had. Should the team be vague or say things like "we're looking at any way we can to improve our team" then I'd say a rumor has some legs. I'd expect this particular rumor to heat up before it cools down despite the notion that I believe Ramsey to be a poor fit in young Schottenheimer's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 i get all excited, and then realize the horse's ass (TK) is talking again. Never get excited about anything until it's finalized. That's the way it's going to be with Gibbs in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgantownHokie88 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Sorry about starting this thread, I just wanted to see if anybody else had heard what my buddy claimed he heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That 2 #1 picks thing is if some other kind of deal can't be worked out -- that's the default. A swap involving another team's player and draft pick is not forbidden. Thanks for the clarification on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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