d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 YOU CAN SEE THE SPIT. Watch him jerk his head right before he hit him, the spit flies to the brim of the helmet. He spit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZkinsFan Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 pittman didn't even receive a penalty, thats what really shocked me pittman cried wolf and the ref believed it...thank god we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhat8121 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I think ST said "F*** you" My head jerks a little bit too when I try to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmoore Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Sean has that reputation since being accused by the Bengals last season. I couldn't see it, but that doesn't mean he didn't do it. I'm pissed that Pitman was not ejected for throwing the punch. Unlike spitting, the rules are clear-cut when it comes to throwing punches (immediate ejection). There's not a game that goes by where the officials don't make me scratch my head. I'm a firm believer that if he did spit he should have been ejected, HOWEVER... Human nature would dictate that if someone spit in your face or on you YOU WOULD WIPE IT OFF. Pittman did not. :helmet: Anyway, this sure was a fun trip, especially seeing all those Tampa fans leaving dejected after so much smack talk. :laugh: On to Disney World, wearing my Cooley jersey!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 How do you complain about officials how can they be allowed to keep thier jobs seriously . This is a playoff game and could have been a pivitol call . If there was any doubt at all and there is then you call unsportsman conduct ... on both players . The slap/punch is a automatic ejection but again I would have been happy if it had been called as unsportsman and had offestting penalties . Again benifit of the doubt Those saying Taylor is obviously guilty because he didn't fight back i have to say huh ? your not guilty becuase you do retaliate that makes no sence . Taylor know if he gets in a fight he is out of the game. As it turns out he is out of the game and finned for apparently doing nothing . Refs need to be made examples of and this coupled with the two blown calls at the week ten game really has to be looked at . He may be one of the best officials in the game but it is still a very bad call . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Pittman should have been penalized for hitting Taylor. But, the bottom line is that Taylor had no business being in Pittman's face in the first place. I know I'll probably anger a LOT of Taylor fans here for saying that. The play was over. GET OFF THE FREAKIN' FIELD! There was no need for him to go over there and talk smack to Pittman! NONE! Even if he didn't spit on him, Taylor put himself in that situation by yappin' unnecessarily and it almost cost us the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeKnowsBest Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 YOU CAN SEE THE SPIT. Watch him jerk his head right before he hit him, the spit flies to the brim of the helmet. He spit. People should take notice of your post so that's only why I'm quoting it. What gets me is how all of us on this board are acting like we can see what (suposable didn't) happen when we weren't even there on the field. The Ref was standing right there in between them, and the camera angle was clearly behind Sean so you couldn't even see his face. Plus it was from several hundred feet away. To the naked eye from that distance, you couldn't see the saliva unless you had extremely really sharp vision. I still don't understand why Pittman wasn't also flagged though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamshatterer Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 They show a closer view, is there anyway you can get that? I think it's after they found out he was ejected for spitting. I remember, I went right up against my tv screen and you can see Pittman's eyes squeek as if something flew in his eyes right before he swung. They will call it a justifiable punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REEGSKINS Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 he definately didnt spit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightForOldDC21 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 sean taylor is a god he didnt do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 For those of you who don't believe Pitman wiped his face you have to rewatch Pittman as the flag is thrown and is falling to the ground.. he does wipe his face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Looks to me like he spit right before Pittman hit him. You can see Sean's head jerk just a little before Pittman swings. exactly ... I watched the game on a HD projector that had a screen size of about 10 feet by like 6 feet ... (it was huge) and we all thought spit fly out at that moment when ST's head jerked and Pittman threw the slap ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redphoenix Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Well they made up for it on that catch in the end zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMdObserver Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 It was obvious to me that the referee (not a POS zebra as one moron called him) was about five feet away from Taylor. From five feet away I have a feeling that he was able to determine if someone spit in another players face. Taylor did not complain or react when he was ejected and the most telling part was when he was almost completely ignored by his teamates. He is a thug and will always be one. The question is whether the Redskins can keep him under control so he doesn't embarras the team again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD Riggo Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Until I see a closeup .. maybe from NFL Films or something .. I'm not convinced that a "spit" wasn't possibly acidentally from just yelling at Pittman. Having said that, Taylor needs to grow up and learn to walk away. He hurt the team, and there were a number of times after that we could have used him. If he was in the game, that Bucs "incomplete pass" in the endzone might have been knocked away. Had the ref made that a "complete pass" we could have been in big trouble! He sure could use Salave'a as an example. Last week, the Egals player hit him and he didn't retaliate. He was the bigger man, and the call appropriately went against the Egals. Had he retaliated, he would have received an offsetting penalty. Sean needs to learn to just walk away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsLover Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 if u look at ST's mouth he's saying "he touched me" or something along those lines....ugh.....i really think it was just spit coming from his mouth for screaming...i mean when ur jawing with someone i'm sure spit comes out naturally This is what I was thinking along the lines of Bill Cower...Anyone give him penalties or eject him when he spits as he is yelling at the players like thirty times a game???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNSTONE Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 The body language suggests that any kind of spittle was an accident. Because if you purposely spit in someone's face, you will take a defensive stand ready for anything. But ST didn't even move his hands or feet in a defensive matter. Also when you spit, you almost always move your head forward, which that didn't happen. And that wussy slap was a punk thing to do when you see that the ref was stepping in. That slap was like a little scared punk who hits the other person, when a teacher or parent is standing there. They know the authority figure will save them. When I was trash talking last night, I noticed several times I kept spitting little pieces out of my mouth. And I think that's what happened. And that little wuss slap suggested as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 When I am really pissed and say "F You!" to someone, my head jerks back just the same as Taylor's did. If he was saying something like that and a little spittle came out, then that whole call is BS. Regardless, Pittman should have had a penalty thrown against him and ejected from the game. And if Taylor did do it, then I don't think you should cost the team a penalty like that, though back in the day, Football was a lot more hardcore. Guys hitting guys on the bottom of the pile, etc. Oh from that article posted....Said Pittman: "You just don't do that. It's not sportsmanlike. As a human being, it's something you never do." - Well that's just priceless. I think beating your wife is something, as a human being, you shouldn't do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I'm not sure whether or not Taylor spit. The Video is hardly conclusive one way or the other...but I'm SURE of this. That referee did NOT SEE Taylor spit in Pittman's face, but he couldn't have missed Pittman punch Taylor. In my opinion, if he didn't see Taylor spit, even if he Taylor did spit, and took Pittman's word for it only...especially after watching Pittman strike Taylor, bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 So it's everyone's opinion that Pittman made it up on the spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl70 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I've watched the recording I have of the game countless times, I still can't see any spit. I've watched the video posted in this thread and that doesn't clarify the incident either. Regarding Pittman moving his hand up to his chin, I think that's just an involuntary reaction on his part. When he threw the punch, the refs arm was knocked into his chin -- in the exact spot he touches. Right now I have to believe Taylor and think that any spit was just "spray" from an overly heated argument on the field. These guys were working their tails off and sweating up a storm. I'm sure that mixed with a little saliva would end up flying out from a face mask during an exchange like this -- especially when the two were so close together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_PREDATOR Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Well, like they said in the post game, people get spit on all the time, but the rules are clear on hitting. If ST did it, maybe he should have been ejected, but Pittman should have too, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philal0102 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 yeah even if he did do it pittman should have got penalized too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 People get spit on all the time? Also, just because you can't see it from 30 yards away, does that mean it didn't happen? Come on, guys. I know you are going to give your guy the benefit of the doubt but try to be a little fair here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarpon75 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 What gets me is how all of us on this board are acting like we can see what (suposable didn't) happen when we weren't even there on the field. The Ref was standing right there in between them, and the camera angle was clearly behind Sean so you couldn't even see his face. Plus it was from several hundred feet away. To the naked eye from that distance, you couldn't see the saliva unless you had extremely really sharp vision. I still don't understand why Pittman wasn't also flagged though. The ref was not between them.He ran between them after Pittman punched Taylor.Bottom line is if Taylor spat there should have been offsetting penalties.If something like this happened, for example in a grocery store or other public venue,who would be found guilty in a court of law if it went to trial?Would the person who spat on someone or the one who physically assaulted the other be found guilty of assault?I am pretty sure that the person throwing the punch would be the one paying the fine or doing time.Taylor,if he did spit was wrong and should suffer the consequences.I hope he didn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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