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Then we could call the cheerleaders the Energizers.

Heard the same.

Okay, they just teased the name change on the Today Show. I think it’s going to be the next segment after local news break.

Can’t be cammo. Doesn’t fit. Maybe dress uniforms. 😜

Heck, my Marine buddies used to call me a cake-eating civilian, and I know that! The thought is now circling in my head. I really don't like Hail to the Commanders. I pray that doesn't become a thing.

I'll have to live with it then, I guess. It's not awful. It's just kinda there. I mean ya root for the troops not for the commanders... You support the troops. You **** about the brass I will say this, "Hail to the Commanders" is out. It's got too much of a dictator vibe.

That's my biggest issue with Commanders. Probably the same with generals. Guess we'll find out in a few hours unless it has leaked and this is it. Now, I will say I actually kind of don't mind the idea of Tank Commanders lol, but the logo would have to be 1970's Atari 2600 lol

It's so hard to know if he is. Personally, I think he is. He has the highlight catches, he can carry a depleted receiving corp and still get open, and he makes his QBs look better than they are. That last factor will always matter though. It's hard to know how much better he would be with a better QB or on a team where teams don't have to scheme only to eliminate him. We know his numbers are suppressed. We can only guess how much.

I don't know about that. Terry was getting a lot of love from the national broadcasters in pregame and game casts this year. I think he is recognized within the league.

So, one thing I don't think Jimmy G is getting enough credit for is a pretty gutty performance. He had a bad shoulder and a host of other injuries over the past two weeks. That's going to impact your accuracy. I still don't want him, but I do think he ought to be appreciated.

I kind like that. and yes, super melodramatic

I feel like we'll know a little more after Senior Week. How these draft prospects pick up an offense, how they work with the other elite talent, who has a stronger arm or is faster at processing the field, will be seen first hand. Sometimes, I think these events are overvalued, but getting a week to work with them is probably the best measure an NFL coach can get.

I can imagine that. I can imagine thinking Jimmy G. would lead to a smoother transition/implementation of his system. It's certainly not unusual for coaches to want to bring their guy in. I can also imagine that to be pretty far fetched and just wishful thinking.

There are several questions running through my head today: Does today feel like an end? Will tomorrow feel like the beginning of a new era? What attaches a person to a team? I think it's worth it to pay an homage to a name. I think it can be done apolitically. Here goes my attempt to answer to my questions. 1. Does it feel like an end? No, not really. And yes. I mean all the coaches, players, and management are still the same. The ownership is still there. So, it's more like a birthday. Something to mark, but other than the date on the calendar nothing has really changed internally from one day to the next. And yet, it also feels like a big change. When I close my eyes and think of football, I see the glory days. I see Theismann and Rypien. Charlie Brown, Alvin Garrett. Monk, Clark, and Sanders. I see Monte Coleman and Dave Butz. Daryl Grant and Mann and Manley. I see Hogs. Without looking I can name a hundred players. But I also remember, Hail to the Redskins. I also remember getting my first jersey and the pride of representing. I remember that bet with Mike Laverne that started off my football fandom in a nonfootball household in fourth grade. I remember meeting and interviewing Joe Gibbs. Partying with dozens of Extremeskins posters at Dave and Busters. And part of that will be cut off now. And honestly, it's a bit sad. So yeah, today will have meaning for me even if it changes relatively nothing on the field. 2. Will tomorrow feel like a new era? I'm excited to see what the name will be. I don't think it changes much. They timed it wrong. It should have been timed so they could associate it with some new face, but it's not even being announced before the end of the season. Right now, I think it's mostly a Shakespeare thing. You know, "A rose by any other name..." And yet, maybe they'll roll out something that will hook the imagination. Maybe some of the baggage of being a Redskin fan for thirty years, though for me, the baggage is more based on bad play, bad decisions, and poor results, than the infamy of a name or logo, will be wiped clean. Maybe the league will want this new Washington team to gleam. Maybe the players and coaches get inspired by the idea that they will be remembered. That theirs will be the first name in the history books. They will be the first Washington _________________s. I will say they don't get to have it both ways in my book. You don't get to claim to keep the history and achievements of the old and claim to be something new. If they are something new then this is a team with zero Super Bowl trophies, zero hall of famers, zero NFL records. So, no one can ever break the records of the past. I kind of like that. So yeah, let it be new. I don't think they can pull it off or want to, but let it be new. 3. What attaches a person to a team? There are a bunch of answers to this. I think it's primarily collective memories. Memories of struggle and memories of success. I don't think it's winning. Although winning attracts people to a team. But what attaches them to it is more substantial. It's the stories we share with friends. It's the sense of regional identity. It's the team activities we engage in outside of the games: from simple things like wearing a cap and nodding at each other to bbqing before a game at a Tailgate. It's also that sense of family. I remember being at a science fiction convention in Roanoke, Virginia. I'm doing the author thing and someone comes by my table wearing a jersey so I shout HTTR. It stops him and surprises him, but he stops and we talk for about ten minutes about the draft, the upcoming season, our prospects, our frustrations, and our shared story. So, what attaches us to a team is not a name. It's not players or wins. It's us. It's community. It's this damned message board. It's the family we create and discover randomly who share an identity with us. And from that perspective, tomorrow will not change anything at all for me. Because when I close my eyes, I do see Green and Olkiewiscz, and Taylor and Bostic, and Nelms, but I also hear song, feel the slap of high fives, feel the surge of adrenaline that forces you to your feet even when watching from quiet of the living room couch. And that remains. Writing this last bit, I realize that's not true. The song is gone. A new one will be different. An absence of one is wrong. And what remains of my Redskins community is smaller than it was. Whether that's names I no longer see here like Omm, Honorary Hog, or Blondie (plus too many others to list) or people who've turned away from the team altogether. My family has shrunk over the years. My passion for the team is certainly banked if it's not out. I still love the team enough to have this pour out of me without thought or prep (or revision lol), but this team is in need of new. It is certainly in need of better and hopefully that can start with a name. But again, a name doesn't change much, a name isn't the team's identity just like wins aren't the team identity. A team is the stories we build around it. So, one last time... Hail to the Redskins Hail to all of us who have persevered.

Is what they are saying First Amendment speech or is it incitement to violence? Is it First Amendment speech or it hate speech? I do believe we've drawn a line both morally and legally. To be fair, this is a situation I struggle with. I believe in freedom of expression and even the freedom to be wrong. I have argued that neo nazis have the right to march and hand out pamphlets because I think that despite how despicable these people are the ideal of the country is that important. At the same time, there has to be a point at which we distinguish speech from poison. In my opinion, what we are hearing so often these days is not discourse, debate, or an exchange of ideas. It's hate. It's a naked attempt to get you to hate me and to get you to want to kill me. And we see that's so. This isn't an academic, abstract debate we're having. This isn't a fun intellectual exercise for a class on law or ethics. We've seen an escalation in White Supremacy and violence in recent years. Honestly, I came into this thread expecting to read about the multiple locations that have recently decided to boycott an anti-Holocaust graphic novel in their public schools, one that won the Pulitzer Prize, a few decades ago. If you ask me, that boycotting of literature is the attack on the First Amendment not people upset at Nazis shouting what they were above.

I'm so sorry you went through that.

I'm not either except to the extent that everyone except Jonathon Allen (and maybe Cole Holecomb) flopped. That makes me think it's not about Chase, but something more systematic. If everyone falls apart, it's not a symptom of one guy being a bum.

thought they only measured horses in hands?

Perhaps. But that's also REALLY easy to say after the fact. I mean it's probably true. It's likely true. But I can imagine the defensive coach talking himself into falling in love with the defensive guy. It's sort of the same as I really don't believe that Mike Shannahan was absolutely opposed to drafting RGIII and got dragged into it by Snyder, kicking and screaming (which Mike has tried to imply a few times.) Now, I tend to believe you, Kiem, and Rivera that if he had a choice between a number one QB and a world changing DE that he'd have gone with the QB. After all, while Haskins flashed a tiny bit at the end of the year and we had hopes that maybe he'd begun the process of realizing his potential, his first season was largely a bust.

Actually, I could imagine a scenario where the Redskins brain trust convinced themselves that Burrow was a one year wonder who Mel Kiper projected as a sixth round pick just a year earlier and that Chase was Reggie White. They might have gone for the sure-thing superstar over the fluke.

So many ifs... If Fitz had played If Logan Thomas played more NFL games than I did this year. If Curtis Samuel took more NFL snaps than I did this year. If McKissic didn't go down. If Young and Sweat didn't buy into the hype and forget how to play their position. If Jack Del Rio wasn't Haslett bad for more than 60% of the season If more than half of the team didn't come down with COVID right before the most important games of the season. Change two of those variables and we would probably have been in the playoffs over the Eagles. We probably would have been one and out, but we'd have been there.

It's really interesting that two years in a row, a team is going to the Super Bowl with a QB that's been in their system only one year. Last year, it was TB and Brady. This year, it's LA and Stafford. What that tells me is that if you have the coaches you can get a QB up to speed really quickly. Washington was a borderline playoff team that made the playoffs in 2020 and a borderline playoff team that missed the playoffs in 2021. If they get a QB there's no excuse for not getting immediate results.

Damn. You're right! My bad. Maybe we could ask Kansas to pick up part of his salary. I think that's true, but I didn't get the sense that Bengals v Chiefs was about superlative QB play. It was much more about playing within system and the defense tightening up in the second half.

Clearly, Maholmes is a choking bum. Still he might be worth a reclamation shot. I say we offer Kansas Landon Collins and a fourth rounder for Maholmes

Ron seems to excel at getting one-year prove it deals. I kind of hope he goes that route. Who? I don't know.