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Don't really agree on that interpretation. It was not about working out or not. He was fine based on the metrics when the team was actually trying before it quit in November. I think this wasn't about Howell being a backup that threatened a QB, I think this was about Howell having 2 years left on his deal and there was a demand in the league for him (multiple offers in draft capital). The brass preferred to add more ammo as a part of the tear down rebuild, rather than use him to backstop their selection. Nothing wrong with that...Howell's from a prior admin, he was gone by '26, now we turned a 4th into a 6th and a 6th into a 5th, that's what they wanted, they could find backup help in the draft or FA. I don't think it had much to do with the new QB being soft and crying if there was a good backup around, I think it was purely about draft capital, and Peters wanting as much of it as humanly possible to help the rebuild. Short term assets like Howell's 2 year deal werent as value to him (or to trade value charts). Makes sense to some extent. Me personally, if I'd known we were taking Daniels, I'd have kept Howell because I think his floor is higher, but if we were drafting Maye, I'd have been fine w/trading him, but I get why Peters wanted to just get some capital in, and there's no arguing having 5 picks today (maybe more if we trade down) is fantastic for our long term goals.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/04/25/2024-nfl-draft-jayden-daniels-best-quarterback The NFL Draft’s Best QB Just Landed With the Commanders Washington needs to treat Jayden Daniels like the gift that he is to this franchise, handing them the second chance of a lifetime. [excerpt] This is a plea for the Commanders to avoid destructive internal politics. This is a plea for the Commanders to avoid a rapid turnover at the head coaching and offensive coordinator spots (the Detroit Lions have held onto Ben Johnson for two consecutive offseasons; the Commanders, even with success on Daniels’s part, should do what they can to keep Kliff Kingsbury installed). This is a plea for the Commanders to allow for organic growth and progress in lieu of clumsily piling on high-priced wide receivers to microwave the process. This is a plea for the Commanders to find the Jayden Daniels offense. This is a plea for the Commanders to avoid the quest for personal credit, avoid disparaging the quarterback anonymously to reporters in order to save careers if Daniels struggles (kind of like they did to Johnson when he decided not to be the team’s head coach this past winter), avoid his personal life becoming his public life. This is a plea to treat Daniels like the gift that he is to this franchise and to understand that, while everyone has a job to do, the Commanders’ main priority is to not allow that stinging embarrassment, that all-consuming indifference and apathy, that forget-about-it hopelessness to begin coursing through the fanbase again. It’s possible, especially now that the planets have aligned, that the Bears may have passed on the draft’s best quarterback and handed the Commanders the second chance of a lifetime.

If he losses again, then I’ll be thrilled if the GOP keeps rolling his decrepit carcass out as it’s candidate.

Throwback!

Where did the trade for Aiyuk chatter come from? I see it on every other page. Is this just a scenario we created on ES? Why would we trade for him? Let Peters find some new guys. Our guys. Build a young core. That trade feels like the definition of a short cut.

They will take flyer on Becton

I got a good laugh from this. If the stuff about his competitiveness and clutchness show up early in the year, they'll all be buying.

This is so flipping huge to me if true. One of the key traits I love to see in a football player is that they genuinely love the game. The money is great, but that undying thirst for the game that leads them to be film/practice junkies is awesome. I hope he doesn't lose this!

For the sake of accuracy, according to Rapoport, it seems like Daniels indeed *was* upset / “miffed” about the Top Golf thing but the fact Peters & Quinn picked him up personally (as was reported) and he met straight with Harris got him back excited. I think it’s clear that there’s a little bit of neediness there, not in a bad way necessarily, but a sensitivity to feeling supported. Which is understandable. but just pointing out ( @Llevron ) that reading into what happened wasn’t pure irrational fan mania. There *was* smoke there and it seems like the two sides just worked it out. No doubt in significant part bc of how bullish we were on him.

If he's alive...... maybe even if he's not and hit kids aren't telling anyone Weekend and Bernie's style.

It’s not the most complicated sport to pick up … or put down.

He’s corny in a way that his teammates may resent, because he hasn’t earned anything in the league. Won a championship on a stacked college team and buys his own hype as a winner as he enters the NFL? Yikes.

The guys who are paying JD millions of dollars and banking their own futures on his success care very much. The Commanders are in "recalibration" mode, not win-now mode. When JD is up and running as an established starter and the Commanders are contending, then definitely bring in the upscale backup QB.

Deebo would be cheaper to trade for though. And looks like his salary the next two years isn't too bad, at 21 million and 17 million respectively. The fact that Daniels played with Aiyuk before is nice, but it's not essential. If SF doesn't put Aiyuk up for trade, then we don't really have a lot of choice. There aren't that many All Pro receivers hitting the market, and getting one would be tremendously helpful to our young QB. I wouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, let's bring in a big fish and turbo-charge the offense.

Was it specifically at 36? I too heard that part but wasn't sure if he actually said @ 36. But sounds like people definitely like Rosengarten, Keim was confident in that. Edit: you're right, he said 36 or 40, but just his estimate. That sounds a little early for him but maybe one of our draft experts can elaborate.

We'd have to craft a new rule to protect the community from such a heretofore unimaginable and horrific offense of cosmic magnitude.....

I had nothing against the Vikings previously but man I don’t like this kid.

Especially if like me, you think Howell could be a league average starter in this league. High floor etc. I don't view it as sick and considering I've seen like 2 posts about Howell out of like 2000 the past week, I don't think people are fixating on it either. It's just odd he was traded w/o the Maye angle. But maybe the view was pretty simple: He only had 2 years left on his deal, he was definitely leaving, and this was the best return we were going to get (I can get that argument, it is reasonably sound). Yeah, I think the point all along was the #2 pick in the best QB class in a long long long time, was why he came here. Simple as that. I had hoped his target was Maybe, but I always figured it was the 2nd pick in a stacked QB class that was the draw, not a specific player. Interesting to consider that it might have been Daniels himself or simply the pick+QB class. If this was '19 or '22 it would have been far less attractive.

Brits know baseball analogies? Damn. Who knew?

I think Daniels already has a website selling shirts or something actually. But just like then I don’t think I care much as it’s probably run by parents or managers or something. I hope he sells enough shirts that he takes vetmin+ for his second contract! Moar shirts!!

Who cares, these guys aren't 4 year olds. Sonny and Billy, or maybe just Billy told Joey T to sit down, shut the ---- up and return punts, they need to grow a pair if they are threatened.

And I still would be totally okay with them not winning another game for the next 20 years.

I do agree w/that, JJ gets a lot of "mystique" around winning a championship for some. I don't buy it period, though I think it's nice he's won every where, being an elite NFL QB to high school or college titles is for me like being a paper airplane to say Voyager II. They are just VASTLY different scales and requirements. One's heading outside our solar system 1 light second at a time, the other is something you toss around in the classroom when the teacher aint looking. "winning" at the college level is immaterial. The truly great, HOF bound QB's of the post 1983 class era? None of those guys won in college: Favre-nope, Brady: with Griese starting, Manning: Florida's -----, Brees-it was Purdue-man, McNabb: lol it was Syracuse, Ben Roth: Miami of Ohio, are you ----ing me? Rivers: what was it NC State? Please, Rodgers: he was my alma matter Cal's QB, they were good in '04 and got robbed of a BCS bowl game by Texas, Matt Ryan was Boston College, Stafford was on a great Georgia team but they didn't win, Newton was on a great Auburn team so there's him, Luck was on a great Stanford team for Stanford standards, Wilson played for Wisconsin, Mahomes was I think Texas Tech, Watson is an example, Josh Allen definitely wasn't, nor was Lamar, nor was Kyler, Joe burrow was, Justin Herbert wasn't, Lawrence was but is mid for now, Stroud was on a great team...overall a couple of great teams-great QB's: Stafford Newton Luck Watson Burrow Stroud Are the only exceptions, but did any of them win titles? Did Burrow win? Maybe, none of the others did. Winning is immaterial. College is way too complicated to have QB's defined by W-L record, and JJ is boosted for sure by that title. Otoh, I think he was always 1st round, early 2nd bound. He's got enough juice for that, but if Michigan played like early Michigan, he probably is a day 2 guy.

True, but other teams could be looking to leapfrog us for him.

You guys realize, if Trump loses he will run again in 2028... even from jail.