kleese Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Someone had to bring it up (again).....But please read my reasoning and comparisons before calling me a nutjob. I believe in copying philopshies that are proven over time. I beleive Sam Presti (GM of OKC Thunder) is the best executive in sports. He cut his teeth in the front office of the Spurs. His philosophy is to gather talent regardless of "fit" or "scheme." The year he drafted Durant, he also drafted Jeff Green... Who pretty much was a poor man's KD and played a similar role. But he was the best player available. Two and a half years later, after Green proved to be a solid player, Presti traded Green for Kendrick Perkins. He also drafted Russell Westbrook to play point guard when others thought Westbrook was too raw to even be a lottery pick. Then he drafted James Harden who people thought was redundant with Westbrook. Point being... Acquire the best players you can and figure it out from there. Tim Tebow is a very talented football player. He isn't a QB in the NFL, but he has a good mix of size, speed, and has versatile abilities. I guarantee you that Tebow is a more gifted football player than the vast majority of middle round picks in this upcoming draft. For you old timers like me.... Remember Jim Jensen of the Dolphins? He wore #11 because he was drafted as a QB... He wasn't good enough to be a QB in the NFL and once they drafted Marino, he was obviously totally unnecessary at that position. But the Dolphins saw how talented he was and over the next 11 years used his talents to make their offense more dynamic. He played RB, HB, FB, TE, WR, and on special teams. He was hard to prepare for because he did so many things. He was also a little bit of a threat to throw it when he had it in the backfield. Tebow is Jensen 2.0. He is gifted and strong enough that if he committed to it, could easily line up as an HB or TE, catch the ball out of the backfield, block, etc... Kyle S is great at utilizing the talents of his players... I beleive that if he could get Tebow to buy in, the Redskins could land themselves a very valuable piece for almost nothing. --Tebow was embarrassed by the Jets this year. They were idiots. The offense sucked so bad that having a "change of pace" didn't matter... They had no pace to change. Tebow should be highly motivated after the debacle with the Jets. If he is willing to go somehwre where he won't even be listed as a QB, I think he could be great here. --Assuming it was made clear when he came here that he wasn't here to play QB, there would be no circus or controversy. No one would insinuate that he should play QB over RG3 or Cousins. He could be an emergency QB I guess, but I want to make it clear that I want him here to play a different role. If he goes to a crap team, there will always be that lingering "should they give Tebow a shot" media speculation. On a good team, he can just fulfill a role. On a team like the Jags, the 8-10 big plays he can make in a season really won't matter. In a place like DC, where we are already close, it could make a difference. I want Tebow. I'd be willing to trade a middle/late round pick so he doesn't hit the open market. He is a great fit for what we have rolling here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I agree with you to an extent, but the last thing I want is the ESPN Skip Bayless Tebow love circus Yea, 25 years ago this could work. Not today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsandRockBandFan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Look I like Tebow as a person, but I dont want him on the Redskins, we don't need that media distraction as much as we already have. Idk it just seems to be to much, he wants to start as a QB somewhere, he should go to a team that actually want to use him as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gart Monk Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Yes Tebow would actually be awesome here. Washington is the best for his skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 --Assuming it was made clear when he came here that he wasn't here to play QB, there would be no circus or controversy. The circus and controversy follows him... it's not a choice, it's a way of life for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Tebow asked to not be included in the Jets wildcat packages, which suggests to me that he doesn't want to be used in a non-QB role. I have no interest in having him on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 yeah, it's not his fault but he will always have a circus right behind him. Let the Jaguars deal...or maybe the CFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Your a nut job :evilg: Seriously if Tebow would convert to a FB/HB role he would be a heck of a player. I just don't see him wanting to give up on being a QB even part time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Correction: Tim Tebow = Zach Sudfeld (TE for Univ. of Nevada, with long hair :ols:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Everybody knows he's a football player. I believe the issue has been that he still thinks he's a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hey, I like Sudfield . But damn, I never recognized the resemblance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think Tebow was humiliated by the Jets... And there is no proof that he "asked out" of the wildcat packages. If Kyle and Mike called him and told them how they planned to use him and he said "no thanks," then I absolutely would not press it.... No reason to bring him in to do something he doesn't want to do. But I think Tebow wants to play football. An if our sales pitch is good enough, I think he'd be likely to accept it. Not making a move because you fear the media reaction is a horrible reason to not do something. Again, if we are a good team and Tebow is helping us, no one is going to suggest that he should suddenly play QB. The Jets were clueless and brought him in to a horrible offense and then never played him. The team was a joke and his presence added to the circus. That wouldn't be the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think he would play great as an inside linebacker on the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I hated Jim Jensen. And as many have pointed out here, apparently Tebow has no interest in playing a role similar to what Jensen played. If Tebow just wanted to play football, he would have found his way to the field at some point last year. Like you say, there is no proof that he "asked out" of the wildcat packages, but there is also no proof that he was humiliated last year. There is plenty of smoke that he thinks he is a QB and wants to play QB. I don't think it is worth the hassle, regardless of whether he accepts another role. I think in his mind, he is always going to be a quarterback, and I don't think this team, as it is currently constructed would entertain signing him. Maybe a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I agree with you to an extent, but the last thing I want is the ESPN Skip Bayless Tebow love circusYea, 25 years ago this could work. Not today Pretty sure Skip Bayless loves RG3 > Tebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Your a nut job :evilg:Seriously if Tebow would convert to a FB/HB role he would be a heck of a player. I just don't see him wanting to give up on being a QB even part time. that would be the key point. Only way the Redskins would even consider him would be if Tebow gives up his desire to a QB in this league... Tebow in the read option player as a FB or TE would be great but he wont be so great as a QB running the read option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I don't know. I'd be alright with bringing in Tebow, but ONLY to use him as a fullback. Also, do we really want to deal with the Tebow circus? Let's let some other team deal with that nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I can see your point but I don't think he's worth the circus that follows him. Most successful organizations in the NFL generally stay out of the headlines. I think Shanny and the team had their fill of media spotlight during the whole Haynesworth saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Chaaarmnder Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Strangely I like the idea if it was known from the beginning tebow wasn't ever going to have a chance to play qb unless it was an emergency role. I firmly believe he is a team player and could bring a lot to the table as a FB, rb, h back, te and special teams player. Would love to kick the tires and def think he would stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 I hated Jim Jensen.And as many have pointed out here, apparently Tebow has no interest in playing a role similar to what Jensen played. If Tebow just wanted to play football, he would have found his way to the field at some point last year. Like you say, there is no proof that he "asked out" of the wildcat packages, but there is also no proof that he was humiliated last year. There is plenty of smoke that he thinks he is a QB and wants to play QB. I don't think it is worth the hassle, regardless of whether he accepts another role. I think in his mind, he is always going to be a quarterback, and I don't think this team, as it is currently constructed would entertain signing him. Maybe a few years ago. No, a few years ago it would have been a disaster because we were desperate and would have asked him to do too much. Now, we are good and can afford a "luxury" like Tebow. Tebow will only be good on a team that is already good. He will be a disaster on a team desperately trying to be relevant. ---------- Post added January-23rd-2013 at 03:48 PM ---------- I can see your point but I don't think he's worth the circus that follows him. Most successful organizations in the NFL generally stay out of the headlines.I think Shanny and the team had their fill of media spotlight during the whole Haynesworth saga. Might be a little annoying right after we make the move and/or in camp. But if he is playing FB/TE/HB, doing well, and the offense is doing well, there will be no circus. The "circus" stems from people proposing the notion that he should play QB.... It gets worse if the team struggles. No one in their right mind (even an attention seeking media member) would suggest Tebow replaces RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 No matter how you explain it, I don't want that side show freak in Washington. He can't pass. He can't pass. He can't pass. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 I can see your point but I don't think he's worth the circus that follows him. Most successful organizations in the NFL generally stay out of the headlines.I think Shanny and the team had their fill of media spotlight during the whole Haynesworth saga. Might be a little annoying right after we make the move and/or in camp. But if he is playing FB/TE/HB, doing well, and the offense is doing well, there will be no circus. The "circus" stems from people proposing the notion that he should play QB.... It gets worse if the team struggles. No one in their right mind (even an attention seeking media member) would suggest Tebow replaces RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veckatimeister Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 While I think the idea of having a multi-faceted threat that can line up wide or come out of the backfield would be a great addition to this team, I don't think Tebow is the answer. He would attract a great deal of unnecessary media attention and has already made it clear that he wants to be utilized specifically as a QB. It would only serve to add controversy to our team. We can address these needs in the draft. Don't get Tebow. He's a really nice, high-character guy with a great work ethic, but he just doesn't belong in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 No matter how you explain it, I don't want that side show freak in Washington. He can't pass. He can't pass. He can't pass. End of story. Why would a FB/HB/TE need to pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Why would a FB/HB/TE need to pass? I "threw" that in for good measure. See my first sentence. No to the sideshow freak. I think I hear circus music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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