BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Surprised this hasn't been posted yet...didn't know Jay got into it with B Mitch as well... regardless of who you think is right, If Jay acts like this with former players then it's not surprising he's not coaching in the NFL. Jay's judgement has been bad since he was caught smoking outside a bar at One Loudoun with a hottie NOT named Mrs. Gruden sitting on his lap. 😂 Jay Gruden rips Robert Griffin III as social media feud rages on: 'You weren't good enough' https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jay-gruden-rips-robert-griffin-iii-social-media-feud-rages-on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 This whole feud makes me so glad the Snyder era is long gone. I'm so glad we have actual adults in charge now. That being said, Jay might be a bit on the sleazy side, but he was a far better coach than RG3 was a player. RG3 has zero self-realization, and is, and will always be, a primadonna. He'll never take responsibility for his own failings as a player. Clown shoes forever. It's obscenely ironic that this beef started with RG3 basically saying Gruden let him get beat up behind our offensive line. Robert held onto that ball so long you'd think it was tig-welded to his hand. I'll never forget how unbelievably better our line looked when Cousins came in and actually executed the offense. 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 A former HC (Coach Purple Nurple) who waaaaaay overestimates his former and current value (thanks to Grant and Not Funny Danny) vs a former QB who can't understand he failed because he tried to make himself a pocket QB. It's like two idiot children yelling about LEGOs. What's there not to love?!?!? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Get Jay a national gig, networks are sleeping on a potential star. He’d be fantastic with Pat Mcafee Edited January 19 by wit33 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 An idiot coach, an idiot QB, and an idiot owner. One traversed an ocean to spare us the sight of him. A pity that the other two didn't do the same. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Gruden deleted this since, but damn! Speaking truth to clown. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 This serves as a timely reminder of exactly what we DON'T want associated with our favorite team ever again. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 They are both entertaining, but Robert is annoying. At least Jay takes ownership of his personal mistakes. Robert still doesn’t take accountability, always playing the victim and blaming someone else. It’s actually pretty nauseating. He had Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay as OCs when he was here and still amounted to nothing. Pretty sure it wasn’t the coaching. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Why do people like to pretend like the knee injury never happened? It's simply that what destroyed Griffin. He would've been something special if that never happened. Oh well 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command The 414 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 RG3 could easily win Middle School Drama Queen even at his age....I can't stand watching the MNF Pre Game or Post Game on ESPN solely cause of him, but Ryan Clark & others are just as much 💩 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, spjunkies said: Why do people like to pretend like the knee injury never happened? It's simply that what destroyed Griffin. He would've been something special if that never happened. Oh well That’s a stretch. Plenty of guys come back from that injury and do just fine. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, spjunkies said: Why do people like to pretend like the knee injury never happened? It's simply that what destroyed Griffin. He would've been something special if that never happened. Oh well The whole Ngata hit, Seahawks playoff game, and all-in for week 1 were all under Shanahan. So RGIII interjecting saying that Jay Gruden doesn’t protect his QBs makes no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, woodpecker said: That’s a stretch. Plenty of guys come back from that injury and do just fine. Plenty come back, plenty also are never the same. 1 minute ago, Ball Security said: The whole Ngata hit, Seahawks playoff game, and all-in for week 1 were all under Shanahan. So RGIII interjecting saying that Jay Gruden doesn’t protect his QBs makes no sense. This stems from Jay being confident that he could "fix" Robert when he came here when in actuality it seems like he never wanted him to be the QB. I think reality lies in the middle where Robert was pretty much done as a viable starter without the elite run option that wasn't returning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, spjunkies said: Plenty come back, plenty also are never the same. He was an awful passer from the pocket and struggled to read defenses, that’s what derailed his career not the leg. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, woodpecker said: He was an awful passer from the pocket and struggled to read defenses, that’s what derailed his career not the leg. Meh, we'll never know if he would've developed further without the knee issue. It's hard to concentrate on improving in other areas when you have to go through a major rehab after your rookie season. Griffin is not completely blameless here, but putting a buffoon like Gruden with him during a crucial time was an utter disaster in hindsight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, Ball Security said: The whole Ngata hit, Seahawks playoff game, and all-in for week 1 were all under Shanahan. So RGIII interjecting saying that Jay Gruden doesn’t protect his QBs makes no sense. He meant Jay should protect him from the media asking questions about his poor play. That Jay should have his “starting QBs“ back no matter what. Which is not unreasonable, but Jay had to do what was best for the team. We can argue about what derailed RGs career, but at that point cousins was easily the better player. Just now, spjunkies said: Meh, we'll never know if he would've developed further without the knee issue. It's hard to concentrate on improving in other areas when you have to go through a major rehab after your rookie season. Griffin is not completely blameless here, but putting a buffoon like Gruden with him during a crucial time was an utter disaster in hindsight. Fair enough. Maybe Jay was a buffoon as you say, but he had McVay and Matt Cavanaugh working with Robert day to day. If he’s going to blame anybody, it should be Snyder. Both Jay and Robert would have looked a lot better without being exposed to the reverse car wash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, ExoDus84 said: It's obscenely ironic that this beef started with RG3 basically saying Gruden let him get beat up behind our offensive line. Robert held onto that ball so long you'd think it was tig-welded to his hand. I'll never forget how unbelievably better our line looked when Cousins came in and actually executed the offense. I remember that preseason game against Detroit where RG3 was just pummeled by the Lions defense. RG3 would hold on to the ball too long, be indecisive, and would run right towards the pressure. When RG3 went out and Cousins came in, the Redskins o-line suddenly looked like the 91 Hogs. RG3's pocket presence and awareness was so bad. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, woodpecker said: He meant Jay should protect him from the media asking questions about his poor play. That Jay should have his “starting QBs“ back no matter what. Which is not unreasonable, but Jay had to do what was best for the team. We can argue about what derailed RGs career, but at that point cousins was easily the better player. Fair enough. Maybe Jay was a buffoon as you say, but he had McVay and Matt Cavanaugh working with Robert day to day. If he’s going to blame anybody, it should be Snyder. Both Jay and Robert would have looked a lot better without being exposed to the reverse car wash. I wasn’t talking about the team meeting/throwing his teammates under the bus part of this. I’m talking about how Philly wasn’t protecting Hurts on the field, Jay tweets about, and the RG jumps in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, SkinsGuy said: I remember that preseason game against Detroit where RG3 was just pummeled by the Lions defense. RG3 would hold on to the ball too long, be indecisive, and would run right towards the pressure. When RG3 went out and Cousins came in, the Redskins o-line suddenly looked like the 91 Hogs. RG3's pocket presence and awareness was so bad. Some quarterbacks just don't know how to avoid pressure, we saw that this past season when you look at the difference between Howell and Jacoby. All you can do is hope that they "figure it out". Some never do and they get booted from the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said: I remember that preseason game against Detroit where RG3 was just pummeled by the Lions defense. RG3 would hold on to the ball too long, be indecisive, and would run right towards the pressure. When RG3 went out and Cousins came in, the Redskins o-line suddenly looked like the 91 Hogs. RG3's pocket presence and awareness was so bad. I remember that. Was that 2014 in Jay’s first year? I couldn’t remember if that was 2014 or 2015. Was 2015 when Robert play safety on the scout team? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 RG3 demanded to continue to play against the Seahawks after he had destroyed his leg. Shanahan deserves blame for letting his own player overrule him, but in the end, Griffin chose for himself, and he chose poorly. Jay managed the press poorly with Griffin, but Griffin had every opportunity in 2013, 14, and the preseason of 15 to shut his doubters up. He did nothing. He was his own worst enemy, and continues to be it because he can't just live his life and be happy with a comfy college football broadcast, an Estonian athlete wife, and a kid from the wife he divorced after she gave birth. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I remember that. Was that 2014 in Jay’s first year? I couldn’t remember if that was 2014 or 2015. Was 2015 when Robert play safety on the scout team? It was 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 14 minutes ago, spjunkies said: Meh, we'll never know if he would've developed further without the knee issue. It's hard to concentrate on improving in other areas when you have to go through a major rehab after your rookie season. Griffin is not completely blameless here, but putting a buffoon like Gruden with him during a crucial time was an utter disaster in hindsight. I don’t get it. Was Gruden a great leader? No. Was he a good X’s and O’s guy who put QBs in a position to succeed? Yes. Kirk got where he got to under Jay and McVay. Furthermore, on the other end of the spectrum, this team actually won games with Josh Johnson and got almost got a Josh Johnson led team with a group of backup OLs and a bad D to the playoffs in 2018 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Jay isn't perfect, but Robert is a narcissist. He just begs for attention and blamed everyone else for his shortcomings. Cousins playing history vindicates Jay's decision making in that situation. Again, he deserves some level of blame for the overall lack of success when he coached here, but Robert was the center of most of it! 10 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, method man said: I don’t get it. Was Gruden a great leader? No. Was he a good X’s and O’s guy who put QBs in a position to succeed? Yes. Kirk got where he got to under Jay and McVay. Furthermore, on the other end of the spectrum, this team actually won games with Josh Johnson and got almost got a Josh Johnson led team with a group of backup OLs and a bad D to the playoffs in 2018 Robert was a poor QB after the leg, you get no argument from me there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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