mistertim Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m not entirely sure what this is, but it’s intoxicating The only thing that would make it better is if he programmed it to assign a unique color to every single QB on the graph. And then made the whole thing blink rapidly. Edited January 26 by mistertim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 8 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m not entirely sure what this is, but it’s intoxicating So this is a scatterplot. the Y axis is the number of sacks and the X axis is the sack yards. I need to label this stuff. But you can see things like people near the top left are people who are more avoidant of sacks. People near the bottom left are the opposite. Its clustered right now because I put so many on there I can do another with fewer QBs to see how it comes out. But that was kinda to see where people came up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: The only thing that would make it better is if he programmed it to assign a unique color to every single QB on the graph. And then made the whole thing blink rapidly. Then he'd have to put a warning label on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Is this more readable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) Edited January 26 by ThatNFLChick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Daniels >>>>>> Maye 2 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: Is this more readable? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 How the hell anyone sees Maye above Daniels, in the modern NFL world, is beyond me. But to be fair, I’m no ‘expert’. However, simply ‘how it looks to the naked eye test’…erm yep its Daniels straight after Williams…. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 No question Daniels was a better college QB last season than Maye; it’s not debatable. There is a reason he won the Heisman. The team should get a good idea about which QB fits their scheme from combine interviews, watching them throw, private workouts,etc. Pro projection is real though, and we aren’t just looking for the best college football player. Hopefully GMAP and the new HC can get on the same page as far as which QB to take and maximize their talents by designing an offense for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Maye taking fewer sacks despite his OL sucking and overall talent around him deteriorating is interesting. Maye also led the NCAA in big time throws even with that ridiculous pressure rate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 We could also try and retain Brissett if we want to play it safe…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 6 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: How the hell anyone sees Maye above Daniels, in the modern NFL world, is beyond me. But to be fair, I’m no ‘expert’. However, simply ‘how it looks to the naked eye test’…erm yep its Daniels straight after Williams…. How? Watch some tape thats how. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, clskinsfan said: How? Watch some tape thats how. Honestly, I have and I don’t see it. If we were picking 10-15 I would not have a disagreement, but we are picking #2. Jesus that pick is gold dust. I’m not seeing Maye as gold dust. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: How? Watch some tape thats how. People will have differing opinions but nobody can say anything definitely. We've had Kiper, Paulsen, Bullock, Waldman and Neuman all say they watched Maye's tape and aren't high on him at all. We all know it will be more than just tape... interviews, combine, pro days, what their former coaches have to say about their preparation, leadership, etc will all factor in. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, ThatNFLChick said: People will have differing opinions but nobody can say anything definitely. We've had Kiper, Paulsen, Bullock, Waldman and Neuman all say they watched Maye's tape and aren't high on him at all. We all know it will be more than just tape... interviews, combine, pro days, what their former coaches have to say about their preparation, leadership, etc will all factor in. Who’s your top 3 and where would you pick them, ideally, based on draft position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThatNFLChick Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Who’s your top 3 and where would you pick them, ideally, based on draft position? I have the usual top 3: Williams Daniels Maye And I kind of expect them to go 1, 2 and 3 unless someone offers a haul which is totally possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, ThatNFLChick said: I have the usual top 3: Williams Daniels Maye And I kind of expect them to go 1, 2 and 3 unless someone offers a haul which is totally possible Agree. And thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, ThatNFLChick said: People will have differing opinions but nobody can say anything definitely. We've had Kiper, Paulsen, Bullock, Waldman and Neuman all say they watched Maye's tape and aren't high on him at all. We all know it will be more than just tape... interviews, combine, pro days, what their former coaches have to say about their preparation, leadership, etc will all factor in. Agreed. I also believe that recency bias plays a factor as well. We see it every few years in the draft. A type/style of player does well and then teams, the media, and scout types push them up boards. For instance, Daniels reminds some of Lamar and Hurts. While Maye gives off Trevor Lawrence and Herbert vibes. Not to say that due diligence isn’t done on these players, but I think that’s what some hope they’re getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 35 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: Is this more readable? Are the axes labeled right? Or is the number of sacks normalized to something? The number of sacks should probably be between 0-50 or so, not 0-350 right? Is the Y axis actually sack yards lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Honestly, I have and I don’t see it. If we were picking 10-15 I would not have a disagreement, but we are picking #2. Jesus that pick is gold dust. I’m not seeing Maye as gold dust. Just my opinion. Maye makes NFL level tight window throws that Daniels is not physically capable of making. And yes Daniels is the better athlete. But Maye is no slouch in that regard either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, mh86 said: Agreed. I also believe that recency bias plays a factor as well. We see it every few years in the draft. A type/style of player does well and then teams, the media, and scout types push them up boards. For instance, Daniels reminds some of Lamar and Hurts. While Maye gives off Trevor Lawrence and Herbert vibes. Not to say that due diligence isn’t done on these players, but I think that’s what some hope they’re getting For sure. If Lamar wins it all and plays lights out (after winning yet another MVP) teams will be more open to picking a true dual threat QB. I don't think players should be graded by comps but its silly to think they don't consider them. Half the reason Caleb is so highly regarded is his potential to be like Mahomes (if he can reach his full potential that is) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, clskinsfan said: Maye makes NFL level tight window throws that Daniels is not physically capable of making. And yes Daniels is the better athlete. But Maye is no slouch in that regard either. I’ll personally ride with whoever we go with. But Harris comes in, Peters - GM #1 target….Johnson, impending #1 HC target….maybe…I don’t now, we’re not dicking about here are we, Maye feels a really good, safe pick….but…safe, Harris doesn't feel like a safe owner to me… all dude respect intended 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just pick the right guy for the first time since Sammy Baugh! You can do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 22 minutes ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Are the axes labeled right? Or is the number of sacks normalized to something? The number of sacks should probably be between 0-50 or so, not 0-350 right? Is the Y axis actually sack yards lost? Yeah, I probably need to switch them. And I'm probably going to focus only on major QBs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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