The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Sigh. 🙁 Wonder if this means WVU gets left out of a P5 conference? Will the B12 even exist without OU/Texas? At least ESPN isn't to blame this time. Edited July 23, 2021 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredSkins Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 as a life time OU fan. I just don't know how to feel about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Its hard to understand why Texas wants to do this. Right now they are the dominant voice in the Big12, in the SEC they'll be an equal, at best, among their peers. They won't get any more money because they'll have to get rid of their network and join the SEC network, and they don't win that much in the Big12, they'll get crushed regularly in the SEC. My guess is that the Big12 will dissolve in 2025, there will be 4 super conferences that split off somehow from the NCAA, and WVU ends up in the ACC. BTW, WVU just unveiled its new football facility, it's NICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) ACC really is the best option for WVU but it has repeatedly rejected "us". That said, maybe WVU becomes an option when the SEC also signs Notre Dame (as alleged). Edited July 23, 2021 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Texas won’t win in the SEC. Oklahoma might. Big 12 is dead. I think the ACC and Big 10 expand also. PAC 10 maybe dead also. WVU may have to join a lesser conference if ACC doesn’t want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 They scurred. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Does anyone lose to Maryland in the B1G? Edit..i stand corrected..apparently Maryland has 9 B1G wins. Over 6 years. Edited July 23, 2021 by The Evil Genius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Does anyone lose to Maryland in the B1G? Edit..i stand corrected..apparently Maryland has 9 B1G wins. Over 6 years. Hey we regularly beat Minnesota and Rutgers (when not on our 4th quarterback). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Does anyone lose to Maryland in the B1G? Edit..i stand corrected..apparently Maryland has 9 B1G wins. Over 6 years. Join the B1G and see how many wins you end up with....😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: Join the B1G and see how many wins you end up with....😁 WVU would jump for that opportunity but being a land grant institution and the academics that come with that will keep that from ever happening. I think they'd be very competitive though in both football and basketball. They could at least win more than 9 games total in less than 6 years. 😁 Edited July 23, 2021 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: WVU would jump for that opportunity but being a land grant institution and the academics that come with that will keep that from ever happening. I think they'd be very competitive though in both football and basketball. They could at least win more than 9 games total in less than 6 years. 😁 What does being a land grant university have to do with it? Michigan State is a land grant university, in fact they were one of the pioneer land grant universities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, China said: What does being a land grant university have to do with it? Michigan State is a land grant university, in fact they were one of the pioneer land grant universities. Depending on the requirements of the grant (from my limited understanding), WVU has to accept basically almost anyone from within the state applying to it (the minimums are ridiculous). The effect of that is rhat it diminishes the academic prestige of the university because of the lower graduation rates, lower test scores, etc. Again, that's my limited understanding of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Depending on the requirements of the grant (from my limited understanding), WVU has to accept basically almost anyone from within the state applying to it (the minimums are ridiculous). The effect of that is rhat it diminishes the academic prestige of the university because of the lower graduation rates, lower test scores, etc. Again, that's my limited understanding of it. There are other ways to show academic prestige. For example WVU is considered one of the best universities for Rhodes Scholars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) I should add. I strongly suspect the secondary education system in Michigan is a lot better than in WV. So promoting MSU to Michiganders probably has better results (academic metrics wise) than WVU promoting itself to West Virginians. 🙂 3 minutes ago, China said: There are other ways to show academic prestige. For example WVU is considered one of the best universities for Rhodes Scholars. The law, polisci, and medical programs at WVU are well thought of as well (ot at least they used to be). But the academics part has always been used as the excuse as to what is keeping WVU out of the B1G or ACC. I suspect the AAC will sadly be the fall back for them should the B12 dissolve and no invite from the ACC comes. Edited July 23, 2021 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: Depending on the requirements of the grant (from my limited understanding), WVU has to accept basically almost anyone from within the state applying to it (the minimums are ridiculous). The effect of that is rhat it diminishes the academic prestige of the university because of the lower graduation rates, lower test scores, etc. Again, that's my limited understanding of it. You have to have a 3.0 GPA. Academics have been an excuse, nobody driving realignment actually gives a **** about academics (or the well-being of student athletes). It’s about money. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: You have to have a 3.0 GPA. Academics have been an excuse, nobody driving realignment actually gives a **** about academics (or the well-being of student athletes). It’s about money. Nothing else. Did that change? I thought in-state used to be 2.0... Edited July 24, 2021 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Did that change? I thought in-state used to be 2.0... I think it’s always been 3.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Texas is a far better fit for the ACC than for the SEC. They're about to become a basketball school... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Texas is a far better fit for the ACC than for the SEC. They're about to become a basketball school... Fit in terms of culture and profit? SEC all the way. Now if you're referring to competiveness? Yeah, ACC is the route to go....but you know Texas doesn't view themselves as an inferior program. Edited July 24, 2021 by BRAVEONAWARPATH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Texas isnt a fit for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 What is the point of having conferences when you have 16+ teams? I understand it’s a money grab, but let these super programs play each other in the regular season, then expand the playoffs instead of conference championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: Fit in terms of culture and profit? SEC all the way. Now if you're referring to competiveness? Yeah, ACC is the route to go....but you know Texas doesn't view themselves as an inferior program. I was thinking that they're a better fit in terms of academics and culture and competitiveness in basketball and the spring sports, in addition to no longer being a premier football program. They could honestly compete for ACC championships in pretty much every sport, while in the SEC they might clean up in certain sports, but they'd just be a mid-tier program in football. I actually don't think Austin is an SEC city, and that campus isn't a typical SEC campus IMO. To me they're way more cultured than that. But it's a done deal. What I'm curious about is what happens to Kansas and Baylor? WVU makes a lot of sense for the ACC, do Kansas and Baylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ball Security Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 College football is going to end up being two leagues: The East Coast versus the West Coast. Middle America, pick a side. 6 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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