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88Comrade2000 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 I would love for the unexpected to happen on Monday. Say Amy K win Iowa and Mayor Pete comes in 2nd. That would shake things up. Odds are Sanders wins it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88Comrade2000 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Is Hillary Clinton angling to become vice president? Talk about a delusion. Clinton on the ticket would sink the candidacy of the Dem nominee. **** just needs to stay retired. You had your shot and you failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Voters need more third-party options. Americans should demand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Imagine being so insecure you have to lie about your own height and also refer to someone 5’8 as “mini” also, think these Bloomberg ads got him shook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 So, they decided they didn't need to hear from the poll, and just let the election decide? But seriously. It's a poll. One day before the actual voting. Only people it's important too are: 1) Political junkies who will slurp up anything. 2) News organizations who were planning on lots of clicks from it 3) And voters who are deciding who to vote for based on who they think everybody else is voting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 **** polls, just vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, Larry said: 3) And voters who are deciding who to vote for based on who they think everybody else is voting for. whether it is worth voting is the largest impact of skewed polling. the why bother factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, twa said: whether it is worth voting is the largest impact of skewed polling. the why bother factor It's probably why Hillary lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Springfield said: It's probably why Hillary lost. could be, or it could be why Trump got less votes. people are funny, which is why announcing election results are delayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: also, think these Bloomberg ads got him shook Shook is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 People of Iowa please stop trying to make Pete happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: People of Iowa please stop trying to make Pete happen. You always this worried about a candidate who's polling in third place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Interesting. Of course, this being reported on would likely have helped her too, if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Larry said: You always this worried about a candidate who's polling in third place? Four points not that big of a gap and the way caucuses work he can still come out on top. Ted Cruz was polling 5pts behind Trump in some polls and ended up winning by 3. Pete has no path to victory. Might as well vote for someone who appeal in non lily white states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Interesting. Of course, this being reported on would likely have helped her too, if true. Reporting that any candidate is surging will help said candidate. Which also implies that, in the absence of the results, claiming that a candidate is surging would help that candidate, too. - - - However, having disposed of the disclaimer to be cautious about claims of polls. . . . That could be interesting. If Biden finishes third? Might cut into the talking point that he's The Chosen One. (And the only one who can beat Trump.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Four points not that big of a gap and the way caucuses work he can still come out on top. Ted Cruz was polling 5pts behind Trump in some polls and ended up winning by 3. Pete has no path to victory. Might as well vote for someone who appeal in non lily white states. You're worried about Pete because you're afraid he'll win the nomination and then lose to Trump? (Or, the longer version, you're worried that he'll win the nomination without any black vote, and then lose to Trump because even after winning the nomination, he won't have any black vote?) What's he polling at, nationwide, 8%? 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Larry said: You're worried about Pete because you're afraid he'll win the nomination and then lose to Trump? (Or, the longer version, you're worried that he'll win the nomination without any black vote, and then lose to Trump because even after winning the nomination, he won't have any black vote?) What's he polling at, nationwide, 8%? 5? Not worried a bit about Pete winning. There is no lane for him. Just want the field cleared out sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Larry said: Reporting that any candidate is surging will help said candidate. Which also implies that, in the absence of the results, claiming that a candidate is surging would help that candidate, too. - - - However, having disposed of the disclaimer to be cautious about claims of polls. . . . That could be interesting. If Biden finishes third? Might cut into the talking point that he's The Chosen One. (And the only one who can beat Trump.) I mean, I don't think a couple of tweets from guys with 20-40,000 followers is going to help much of anything. Nor are the two I quoted Warren lackeys, so I don't assume they're lying to help her. Rumored/leaked numbers from the poll: Sanders 22 Warren 18 Buttigieg 16 Biden 13 No numbers on Klobuchar. Be fascinating to see Biden finish 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Eh. Heard a couple of NPR interviews, last day or so. To the theme that most of the (very large group) that's still deciding, are overwhelmingly doing so based not on M4A, or deficit, or foreign policy. But the overwhelming yardstick they're using is "will he beat Trump?" To me, if that's their yardstick, then it favors Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Not worried a bit about Pete winning. There is no lane for him. Just want the field cleared out sooner than later. The field of Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders, Biden isn’t shrinking before Super Tuesday. Bloomberg isn’t even starting until Super Tuesday . If Klobuchar surprises, she could also hang around Until then. Everyone else without money will be gone in the next week. Super Tuesday will be the big decider. One candidate will either wipe everyone else out or this will be spread among multiple candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 God bless Mike Bloomberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, No Excuses said: God bless Mike Bloomberg. I think my response would have been "Seriously? You're fact checking that ****?" Although "It may come as a shock to you, but Donald Trump lies his **** off. About everything." isn't bad, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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