nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Redskins Fans, Those of you who are displeased with our organization and would like to direct your complaints to the source, instead of to a poor ticket sales rep, now you can!!! You have to do it after hours, like right now. Call 703 726 7000. After the automated woman stops talking, spell "Bruce Allen" with your keypad, so ten numbers. If it doesn't work the first time, try it again, it will connect you right to his office. Leave a voicemail, let them know how we feel. If the organization feels like they can do whatever they want, put out a statement and it's over, they have another thing coming. CALL THAT NUMBER IT WORKS If you have friends that are not on this forum that are Redskins Fans SEND THEM THIS INFORMATION. It just feels really, really good. Try it. Let's get this train rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Wow He's not lying- actually connects you to his line The goal should be if we can make his mail box full over and over again each day lol Should just leave the words 'extend cousins or resign' over and over- I started whose next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, steve09ru said: Wow He's not lying- actually connects you to his line The goal should be if we can make his mail box full over and over again each day lol Exactly! This is how we protest politicians, call your congressman up and get a firestorm started. Why not for this? I know fans have been blowing up the team, contacting them, but all of those have gone to patsys. We might as well make sure if we vent, it's to the right people. Sure as heck made me feel better. I've been trying to get the word out on this. TELL EVERY SKINS FAN YOU KNOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The way to protest a private business is not to harass them but to stop buying their product. They don't owe you anything in the way politicians do. My $.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, Stadium-Armory said: The way to protest a private business is not to harass them but to stop buying their product. They don't owe you anything in the way politicians do. My $.02. Man I'm a Redskins fan born in 1992. I'm a living breathing punchline. No sir they do not owe me anything, but I would really love for them to not suck. And when I see them being classless, and taking steps to sucking. Gotta try something. I was respectful, I didn't call to curse them out I can do that to the team stream app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron78 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Stadium-Armory said: The way to protest a private business is not to harass them but to stop buying their product. They don't owe you anything in the way politicians do. My $.02. I agree that we have to hit Danny in his wallet to send a message. The risk though is that he moves the team to another city, but at this point he's damaged the franchise so much that it is worth the risk. I myself have not purchased any Redskins merchandise or tickets in about 10 years. Others should do the same. He might be forced to sell the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, Ron78 said: I agree that we have to hit Danny in his wallet to send a message. The risk though is that he moves the team to another city but at this point he's damaged the franchise so much that it is worth the risk. I myself have not purchased any Redskins merchandise or tickets in about 10 years. Others should do the same. He might be forced to sell the team. Hey I'm with you man! Money talks. The next football jersey I buy will be the first non Redskins jersey I have ever bought. Waiting for those Swaggy Bucs Jerseys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron78 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, nkoucheki said: Hey I'm with you man! Money talks. The next football jersey I buy will be the first non Redskins jersey I have ever bought. Waiting for those Swaggy Bucs Jerseys! True story: the only Redskins jersey I have is a Santana Moss jersey that was made in a sweat shop in South Korea. Korean overlords profited from it but Dan Snyder didn't. We need to collectively boycott. Stop being pissed on by Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, Ron78 said: True story: the only Redskins jersey I have is a Santana Moss jersey that was made in a sweat shop in South Korea. Korean overlords profited from it but Dan Snyder didn't. We need to collectively boycott. Stop being pissed on by Danny. My Friend. If you could have seen my face, and felt my broken heart, when I found out I was born in the same hospital as that prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Stadium-Armory said: The way to protest a private business is not to harass them but to stop buying their product. They don't owe you anything in the way politicians do. My $.02. Exactly. They don't owe you or me or anyone else a damn thing other than what we pay for like any other business. You pay for a ticket-- as long as the game is played, you got what you paid for. If you don't like the experience, you don't purchase them again. This isn't a Civil Rights issue. We don't need a March on Washington. The Redskins might be a passion for many, but they aren't a public trust and as a business owner myself I wouldn't appreciate or respond well to people calling and making demands. Now, I do take customer surveys and response seriously and I'm always open to feedback. But I wouldn't flinch on ioata if a customer gave me some sort of ultimatum. You guys also realize that ticket and merch sales really DON'T "hit in the wallet" all that much correct? The NFL is a very socialist-based entity. Revenue sharing rules the day. So while Redskins fans could perhaps make a small dent by boycotting (assuming it was literally a significant chunk of the fan base) Danny would still be just fine. Just remember that he also profits when that Aaron Rodgers jersey or Dak Prescott jersey is sold as well. And he profits every time the league negotiates a new TV deal. There have been plenty of NFL franchises over the years that have survived long periods of lagging ticket sales-- in large part due to the financial protections the league itself provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, kleese said: Exactly. They don't owe you or me or anyone else a damn thing other than what we pay for like any other business. You pay for a ticket-- as long as the game is played, you got what you paid for. If you don't like the experience, you don't purchase them again. This isn't a Civil Rights issue. We don't need a March on Washington. The Redskins might be a passion for many, but they aren't a public trust and as a business owner myself I wouldn't appreciate or respond well to people calling and making demands. Now, I do take customer surveys and response seriously and I'm always open to feedback. But I wouldn't flinch on ioata if a customer gave me some sort of ultimatum. Who's giving them an ultimatum? You make good points. But what avenue have they given for anyone to voice their concerns? Thousands of fans have been contacting the team over the last couple of days to make their points. All I'm trying to do here, is get that directed to the proper person, instead of some poor sucker in the sales department. If the team chooses to go all "we're doing it this way making no statements and taking no questions" I think it sets a completely different standard than how you would respond to customer feedback. If you're the business owner, let's say of Amazon. And YOU are the one I have a fundamental problem with. Why would I want to speak with someone who answers the phone for your returns department if I had a choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, kleese said: Exactly. They don't owe you or me or anyone else a damn thing other than what we pay for like any other business. You pay for a ticket-- as long as the game is played, you got what you paid for. If you don't like the experience, you don't purchase them again. This isn't a Civil Rights issue. We don't need a March on Washington. The Redskins might be a passion for many, but they aren't a public trust and as a business owner myself I wouldn't appreciate or respond well to people calling and making demands. Now, I do take customer surveys and response seriously and I'm always open to feedback. But I wouldn't flinch on ioata if a customer gave me some sort of ultimatum. But as a business, if you get A LOT of the same negative feedback, you really have to look at it. Especially if sales are dropping. In short, don't buy tickets. Don't buy "stuff". And let him know WHY you're not buying. Get enough of that, and things do change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Morneblade said: But as a business, if you get A LOT of the same negative feedback, you really have to look at it. Especially if sales are dropping. In short, don't buy tickets. Don't buy "stuff". And let him know WHY you're not buying. Get enough of that, and things do change. Yes it may have worked a little bit towards the end of the Vinny era. The result? Bruce Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, kleese said: Yes it may have worked a little bit towards the end of the Vinny era. The result? Bruce Allen And now, we spin the Dan Snyder Industries Patented "Wheel of Nonsense" and see who comes next! VIVA LA RESISTANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, kleese said: Yes it may have worked a little bit towards the end of the Vinny era. The result? Bruce Allen But a change was made, was it not. The fact that it might have been a lateral move because we don't have anyone that is a football mind there nonwithstanding. But, Vinnie is not there any longer. I didn't say it was going to make things better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron78 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, nkoucheki said: My Friend. If you could have seen my face, and felt my broken heart, when I found out I was born in the same hospital as that prick. I actually bought season tickets to the Washington Valor and will probably pick up some merchandise too once the season starts. I have not bought any Redskins merchandise or tickets in about 10 years. I am surprised more people haven't done that already. 4 minutes ago, kleese said: Yes it may have worked a little bit towards the end of the Vinny era. The result? Bruce Allen Then not enough was done to cause real change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, Ron78 said: I actually bought season tickets to the Washington Valor and will probably pick up some merchandise too once the season starts. I have not bought any Redskins merchandise or tickets in about 10 years. I am surprised more people haven't done that already. Unfortunately I'm currently in graduate school in Phoenix, so the impact I can make personally (because of both of those things) becomes limited. My discovering how to leave these voicemails for the person I'm actually upset with, is the contribution I found to throw in and share with other fans. Those of you back at base, hold it down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake88 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Left my message, I feel better. Thanks for the number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rattlesnake88 said: Left my message, I feel better. Thanks for the number! You're Welcome! Honestly, it is a lot about the good feeling. To know it's not an email sent into the bowels of the redskins servers is a really good feeling. At least we can talk to the guy we're pissed at. Why not share that opportunity with the family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Why would I call someone I want fired? To tell him to quit? Do you have Dan Snyder's number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron78 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, Birdlives said: Why would I call someone I want fired? To tell him to quit? Do you have Dan Snyder's number? But, don't you want Snyder fired too? It can't hurt to let Bruce know you don't like the job he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkoucheki Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Birdlives said: Why would I call someone I want fired? To tell him to quit? Do you have Dan Snyder's number? Eh to tell him you're displeased with his efforts and his goofy face! Believe me, I tried! The same trick did not work for Dan Snyder's direct line. If I could have figured that out I would have asked for tips haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 In the immortal words of Jed York, "the owner can't fire himself". I'd love if he sold the team, but I live in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 43 minutes ago, Stadium-Armory said: The way to protest a private business is not to harass them but to stop buying their product. They don't owe you anything in the way politicians do. My $.02. In theory true and in the long run true but that's a slow burn process. It will take quite some time to be felt or noticed unless its centered from season ticket holders IMO. I think communications like this is the way to go but wonder if Bruce is the best target or Dan? Does Dan have a phone line there for voice mail? If its Bruce, I'd have an angle like sign Kirk, please stop whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake88 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Don't see the issue with dropping a line of displeasure to the guy. (some of) Y'all acting like you owe him something. We are Skins fans, battered, bruised and beaten emotionally. We have the right to voice our concerns in a civil manner. Its our American right after all. Cant believe the idea of censorship is being toted around right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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