DogofWar1 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Watching those Smith gifs made me think of this situation: Those are nice looking tackles. WHY CAN'T OUR PLAYERS TACKLE LIKE THAT!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I don't know exactly how this happened but Carl Bradford actually did sign with a sports agency, "Athletes First," and is entering the draft. He's reportedly squatted 641 pounds! Last time I checked on his weight room stuff: http://es.redskins.com/topic/369991-2014-comprehensive-nfl-draft-database/?p=9591488 He had lifted 605, 3 times, in the Squat & Power Cleaned 400 (max). ... Bradford is one of my favs in terms of pure clay, athlete, to mold. He is a freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Those are nice looking tackles. WHY CAN'T OUR PLAYERS TACKLE LIKE THAT!? Yeah, just notice his stance, first and foremost. Bask in the reflected glory of perfect balance, pre-snap stance. Head up, shoulders square, hands rested comfortably on knees, slight bend in the arm, arched -- sloped -- curved back, ass back and high, feet equal distance apart, good bend in the knees, ready to spring ... It's idyllic, statuesque, perfectly balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What do you guys think of Caraun Reid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I watched Mike Catapano last year but haven't watched anything IVY this year, aside from the Cornell dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I don't know if I can find the video right now, but y'all should search out Carl Bradford's story that he tells about his Father, who passed earlier last year and how it's affected him. It's a good watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 How would you rank the interior linemen in this draft? And I didn't even realize Bradford was declaring for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This is part of it: http://pac-12.com/videos/exclusive-drive-asus-carl-bradford-talks-about-losing-his-father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 http://draftbreakdown.com/video/jared-abbrederis-vs-ohio-state-2013/ Favorite WR in this class by a large margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 2nd/3rd round guys we should look at: Jimmie Ward- S Yawin Smallwood- LB Reshede Hagemen- DT Aaron Donald- DT Jared Abbrederis- WR Martavis Bryant- WR Chris Borland- LB Cyril Richardson- G Morgan Moses- OT David Yankey- G Brandin Cooks- WR Odell Beckham JR- WR Troy Nicklas- TE Xavier Su'a Filo- G Billy Turner- OT Dom Easly- DT Brad Roby- CB Trading down is looking like the best option at 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanburgerhelper Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Couldn't agree more DOW on Monty. At worst he is a teacher and competent backup.We have been giving TP the benefit of the doubt for over two years now and he has NEVER played better at tackle than Monty has at center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJValleySkinz Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Yeah, just notice his stance, first and foremost. Bask in the reflected glory of perfect balance, pre-snap stance. Head up, shoulders square, hands rested comfortably on knees, slight bend in the arm, arched -- sloped -- curved back, ass back and high, feet equal distance apart, good bend in the knees, ready to spring ... It's idyllic, statuesque, perfectly balanced. And much like another now former Redskin linebacker who was supposed to be limited by his size he arrives UNDER COMPLETE CONTROL ready to uncoil. Fletch was almost impossible to shake off when he got into the backfield because of this and it's a very overlooked trait IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Couldn't agree more DOW on Monty. At worst he is a teacher and competent backup.We have been giving TP the benefit of the doubt for over two years now and he has NEVER played better at tackle than Monty has at center. By your post count it appears that you are new. But who is the 'we' that has been giving Tyler the benefit of the doubt? Fans want Tyler gone. Last year I was one of the most critical of the OL and Tyler in particular. But when you look at Tyler this year? It seems clear to me that Tyler not only played better then Monty that Tyler didn't poorly this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Feb 2-20124 unfinished SAF Rankings: (1) Deone Bucannon SS/FS (2) James Ward FS (3) Calvin Pryor FS/SS (4) Ahmad Dixon SS/FS (5) Terrance Brooks SS/FS (6) Ed Reynolds FS/SS (7) Don Bailey DB On deck: Craig Luston, Marqueston Huff, Jema Thomas, Lamarcus Joyner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 y'all should search out Carl Bradford's story Dukes and Skins like this You liked my post because I used "y'all," didn't you? Haha, just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Here's part 2 of a series that we've seen before. D&S posted the link to part 1 a ways back. http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46136/349/peshek-wr-metrics-20 Where Did They Catch the Ball? The table below represents the percentage of catches in each zone, it is color-coded so that an above-average number of receptions is greener and a below-average number is redder. - You can’t get more average in terms of receptions than Brandin Cooks. Aside from some slight variation, Cooks has a strong distribution across all the zones showing that he isn’t a one trick pony. - Jordan Matthews’ map of completions is very similar to that of Sammy Watkins. They both caught around 50% of their receptions behind the line of scrimmage with limited experience downfield. Whereas the average WR caught 35% of their passes deeper than 10 yards, Matthews only caught approximately 24% - Representing an offense that often eschews shorter passes, Landry and Beckham both caught more passes downfield than average. Striking though, is the fact that Odell Beckham caught 62% of balls thrown to him past 10 yards. Beckham is clearly the deep threat here while Landry shows a tendency toward more intermediate passes. - While he caught a low amount of passes 20+ yards (10.3%), Allen Robinson also caught a greater percentage of balls in the intermediate portion of the field. His biggest strength and most often run routes seem to be along the sideline in the intermediate zones. What Did They Do After They Caught It? - At first blush Allen Robinson’s YAC looks very impressive at 7.56 yards per reception. That’s nothing to sneeze at regardless of circumstances. However, that number is propped up significantly due to Robinson’s ability to gain nearly 14.25 yards after the catch on screens. When that’s taken away, his YAC drops down to 4.2. There’s a good explanation that we’ll get to in a bit. - Noticeable with Beckham is how deep he catches the ball - 13.81 yards from the line of scrimmage on average. His run after the catch overall tops out at 5.6 yards, which puts him in the middle of the pack. His strength though may not be creating amazing yards after the catch, but rather gaining first downs by beating his defender downfield. - Jordan Matthews is in a similar YAC predicament as Robinson. His overall YAC of 7.8 would put him second in this class only behind Sammy Watkins. However, his screens up this number significantly. On the 55% of his receptions that aren’t screens, he averages 4.7 YPC – a number that is slightly below average. - To be honest, I was a bit surprised at how low Cooks’ YAC was. For a quick WR, you’d expect much more ability after the catch. However, I believe this is a product of Oregon State’s offense. While Brandin Cooks would have led all these draftable WRs in YAC during the 2012 season, Markus Wheaton (then #1 WR) had similarly low YAC. I’ll explain this more in the next section. How Did they Catch the Ball? The chart below represents the final break each WR made before catching the ball. The goal isn’t to tell you exactly what routes each WR ran, but the variety of breaks they made as well as how those affected their production. For instance, comebacks typically yield very little YAC (2.5 yards on average) while posts/corner/slants yield high yards after the catch. The chart has factored out screens. - Here’s where we get into Brandin Cooks’ low YAC. As I noted in the above intro, comebacks nearly always yield 2.5 yards after the catch regardless of receiver while posts/corners/slants bring the highest YAC. 39% of Cooks’ routes were comebacks while only 18% were high YAC yield routes. It seems that the number one WR in the Oregon State offense is destined to get low YAC due to play design. - Allen Robinson is in the same predicament, except nearly half of his receptions were on routes breaking back to the QB. We can’t necessarily say he would have been incredible at gaining yards after the catch in another system, but when we see that he averaged 14 yards on screens, it’s obvious that he’s not a slow mover. - It’s much harder to explain away Jordan Matthews’ poor YAC than Cooks or Robinson. 45% of his non-screen receptions were high YAC producing slants/posts/corners, so why did he barely average 4.6 yards after the catch? It’s tough to say, but that’s when you have to start wondering if his run after the catch ability is a product of the Vanderbilt system. - If we want to advance a pretty strong narrative we can put Jarvis Landry in the ‘possession receiver’ bucket where 36% of his receptions were on hard breaking in/out routes and another 33% were on slants and posts/corners. He does have a wide range of route running experience which is really a positive. - Odell Beckham, like Landry, has a wide variety of route running experience (and runs those routes well) which should translate nicely to the NFL. How Are Their Hands? Here are the drop rates for each of the WRs. I defined drops as balls that were easy receptions and likely bounced off the hands of a WR, not passes that a WR ‘could have caught’ with an acrobatic play. - There’s not a whole lot of bad to see in this group. Anything below 6 or 7% is just about normal for NCAA wide receivers. - The biggest player to watch out for here is Jordan Matthews who has a slightly above-average drop rate of 7.69%. There were a few 50/50 drops that I hedged on Matthews’ side for. He could realistically be anywhere between 7-11%. If you’re watching Matthews intently, keep an eye on his hands. - I only have 2 dropped balls for Landry all season, that’s incredible. cont. @ link for all material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 2011 Pick #36 yielded: 45, 108, 141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Feb 2-20124 unfinished SAF Rankings: (1) Deone Bucannon SS/FS (2) James Ward FS (3) Calvin Pryor FS/SS (4) Ahmad Dixon SS/FS (5) Terrance Brooks SS/FS (6) Ed Reynolds FS/SS (7) Don Bailey DB On deck: Craig Luston, Marqueston Huff, Jema Thomas, Lamarcus Joyner Id go 1. Pryor 2. Clinton-Dix 3. Ward 4. Bucannon 5. Bailey 6. Loston 7. Dixon 8. Reynolds 9. Brooks 10. Joyner 2011 Pick #36 yielded: 45, 108, 141 That is pretty damn encouraging. In a draft as deep as this trading the 34th pick is looking more and more attractive. What would you guys think of a trade involving our 2nd and KC for a 1st and 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanburgerhelper Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Yep.Take notes on a yellow legal pad and not a laptop. I tend to believe my Eyes and the Tape and believe that metrics work better in baseball than football. As to the "we" I was referring to those of us that think the offensive line has over-produced and think that the whole has worked better than the sum of it's parts. Last year Monty was victimized by not being able to play square and having to help on both gaps as Chester is aging and Lich was coming off injury. Playing as a unit helped TP last year and He is still a statue in pass protection. Better than the year before I'll give you but that's not saying much. I am doubtful that he improves enough to Warrant a starting job.I would have to think that Compton was better and cheaper but that is just an assumption on my part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaLazarou Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What would you guys think of a trade involving our 2nd and KC for a 1st and 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Lol really? Our pick is only 8 picks after the Browns, and they are desperate for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Lol really? Our pick is only 8 picks after the Browns, and they are desperate for a QB. They are? If they're so desperate, they could use either of their 1st rounders on a guy they like... Or just keep starting Hoyer. Or sign a FA QB as a stop gap (McCown, Vick, Schaub available). Any would be a better option than trading for Kirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 They are? If they're so desperate, they could use either of their 1st rounders on a guy they like... Or just keep starting Hoyer. Or sign a FA QB as a stop gap (McCown, Vick, Schaub available). Any would be a better option than trading for Kirk. Yeah because 30+ year old qbs who are in the decline are ALOT better options than Kirk. I'm sure the a Browns would like to add some pass rushing talent to their D and not put all their eggs in the Manziel basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 2011 Pick #36 yielded: 45, 108, 141 To put that into perspective: SF #36 Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada DEN #45 Rahim Moore FS UCLA #108 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma #141 DJ Williams TE Arkansas (Traded to GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hadn't really watched Jamea Thomas... he is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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