SJValleySkinz Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Jimmy wonders if his projected round would be higher if he went to a BCS conference school rather than EIU. Jimmy has certain traits that no other QB in this class has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Players need to remind myself to look at: Keith McGill, Marqueston Huff, LB Kirksey, SAF Taylor SAF Luston? LSU OT Mewhort Ill tell you right now, Huff and Mcgill's tape is not that impressive. I really, really like Loston though. He is a big hitter and sure tackler. He is also a pretty good cover safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I felt all week that Gus had a good connection and vibe with his players It looks like its carrying over I want some of that mojo ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I felt all week that Gus had a good connection and vibe with his players It looks like its carrying over I want some of that mojo ;( Now that's a coach. I think the Jags will be in the playoffs within 4 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Dee Ford if Rak signs elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Dee Ford if Rak signs elsewhere? He reminds me a lot of Orakpo. He can put pressure on the QB but how would he play against the rush is the BIG question. Rak should be franchised this year and traded for a 1st and whatever or a 2nd and at the very least 3rd, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 He reminds me a lot of Orakpo. He can put pressure on the QB but how would he play against the rush is the BIG question. Rak should be franchised this year and traded for a 1st and whatever or a 2nd and at the very least 3rd, IMO. Ford has a smaller frame than Rak but a much quicker burst. Anyone have insight on how good Ford is in pass coverage? I didn't know that you could trade a franchise tagged player but this would be a great move. Tag Rak and resign Riley, Baker, and Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Watching Donald throw Gabe Jackson on the ground pretty much makes him my favorite player in the draft. That was ****ing amazing. At this point that is whom I want with the 34th pick, don't think he will be there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 He reminds me a lot of Orakpo. He can put pressure on the QB but how would he play against the rush is the BIG question. Rak should be franchised this year and traded for a 1st and whatever or a 2nd and at the very least 3rd, IMO. Dee Ford is just as disruptive in the run game as he is against the pass. I think we should resign Rak and Jackson though.. At this point that is whom I want with the 34th pick, don't think he will be there though. Im sure he will. Geno Atkins was just as impressive in the senior bowl and he fell all the way to the 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison J Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Im sure he will. Geno Atkins was just as impressive in the senior bowl and he fell all the way to the 4th round.I honestly wouldn't be too confident. Looks a perfect fit for the cowgirls or bears to me. Would be terrific if he fell to us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I honestly wouldn't be too confident. Looks a perfect fit for the cowgirls or bears to me. Would be terrific if he fell to us though. Yeah, I don't know if teams make the same mistake they made on Atkins again. Van Noy would be a solid compensatory pick if Donald is drafted before us though. I like his game and either he or Shazier could be impact guys at ILB for us, which we definitely need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yeah, I don't know if teams make the same mistake they made on Atkins again. Van Noy would be a solid compensatory pick if Donald is drafted before us though. I like his game and either he or Shazier could be impact guys at ILB for us, which we definitely need.We r not going to have any comp picks......unfortunately.This draft is loaded in talent.....I'd be up for trading Cousins if we can get a 2nd or a 3rd and an additional pick. Then picking up a veteran to back up rg3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 My only question about Donald is can he play a 2 gap scheme, and if we do draft him would Haslett change the scheme to benefit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMVLeGenD Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Dee Ford if Rak signs elsewhere? My problem w/ Ford is that he's strictly a speed rusher w/ a limited number of pass-rushing moves and can be a liability against the run. But hey, people said the same thing about Von Miller, and he's made a huge impact in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 My problem w/ Ford is that he's strictly a speed rusher w/ a limited number of pass-rushing moves and can be a liability against the run. But hey, people said the same thing about Von Miller, and he's made a huge impact in the league. Ford is actually pretty good against the run if you watch his tape. He is certainly strong enough to play the position too. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/dee-ford-vs-cedric-ogbuehi-2013/ Any questions about his strength should be answered with this video EDIT: Just watched the Georgia tape..holy ****! 1 sack 4 qb hits 4 hurries.. an absolute beast. I think early on in his career he should be used as a pass rushing specialist as it obviously takes OT some time to adjust to his insane speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Deone Bucannon vs Stanford 35 plays 24 plus (+3 cov w/interception) (...@ 2:58 jacks the RT back on 4th and 1; 4:42 nice read and react for interception Cover 2) 2 minus (penalty) Overal from this game: Hit with consistent pop. Brings arms. Consistent good pursuit paths/finding the ball carrier. Consistently squares up. Drive through to finish tackles. attacked blockers. Plays with high motor.Aggressive at point of impact. Very willing tackler. Good coverage awareness. Plays half field SAF. Has controlled movement efficient movement. Ahmad Dixon vs K-State 54 plays (K-state's QB ran the ball a lot) 15 plus (+4 cov w/interception) 7 minus (penalty, -1 cov, -1 blitz) Overall from this game:Usually brings arms. Hit with pop at times but is more of a wrap and drag tackler (legs go dead). Willing tackler. Worked to fight off blockers. Usually good pursuit paths/finding the ball carrier. Good coverage awareness. Almost had a pick on a tip ball. Plays half field SAF. Moves well, loose limbed movement. Ed Reynolds vs UCLA 26 plays 10.5 plus (+1 cov interception run back score) 5 minus Overall from this game: Usually brings his arms. Occasionally hits with pop but more of a wrap and drag tackler. Good pursuit paths. Good ball skills/interception returned for TD. Moves well. Plays mostly Center field. Steady. Calvin Pryor vs Kentucky 30 plays 11 plus (+2 coverage forceful pass break-up) 9 minus Overall from this game: Sometimes brings his arms. Dive/cut tackler. Sometimes pop/sometimes miss. Sometimes overan plays/didn't find ball carrier. Aggressive against receivers in coverage to break-up passes. Fluid movement. Versatile played some Center field, played some rolled up short zone and some half field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Also did Darqueze Dennard vs Michigan and Justin Gilbert vs Miss St. but left the notes at buddies house. Both looked good tho. Gilbert made more plays at the moment of truth. Coaches play him press and off, seem better in press. Dennard press/trail all game. Both made nice INTs. Gilber is on all the specials units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I personally thought that Ed Reynolds vs UCLA was one of the worst games I've seen a safety play in all of the games I've scouted. Consistently was out of position and was just god awful at tackling. Gilbert and Dennard are both really really good CB prospects though. Watch some more of Pryor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 We r not going to have any comp picks......unfortunately. This draft is loaded in talent.....I'd be up for trading Cousins if we can get a 2nd or a 3rd and an additional pick. Then picking up a veteran to back up rg3. Haha, I meant Van Noy would be a good pick if Donald isn't there. Guess I should be careful how I use compensatory when talking about picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 My only question about Donald is can he play a 2 gap scheme, and if we do draft him would Haslett change the scheme to benefit him. He definitely has the strength to play in a 2 gap scheme, but it would be a waste of his talents if he doesn't see many pass rush opportunities. He doesn't have ideal length but he definitely has the overall strength to stand his ground and then shed the block to make a play.. Texans could be jerks and pick up Clowney for a ROLB and Donald in the 2nd to take Antonio Smith's spot down the line. They don't have a ton of needs and if they get even moderate play out of Keenum that would be an intimidating defense for years to come. It's scary thinking of a line that has to block Clowney, Donald AND Watt on nearly every dropback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I personally thought that Ed Reynolds vs UCLA was one of the worst games I've seen a safety play in all of the games I've scouted. Consistently was out of position and was just god awful at tackling. Lol, wait you've watched Pryor vs Kentucky but think Reynolds vs UCLA was one of the worst games you've seen a SAF play? I would love to see/read your breakdown of Reynolds-UCLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Lol, wait you've watched Pryor vs Kentucky but think Reynolds vs UCLA was one of the worst games you've seen a SAF play? I would love to see/read your breakdown of Reynolds-UCLA. Reynolds tackling was atrocious. His coverage was mostly covering the deep middle and when he was asked to play man to man he seemed a step late. His pick six was one of the only positive plays. He definitely has the strength to play in a 2 gap scheme, but it would be a waste of his talents if he doesn't see many pass rush opportunities. He doesn't have ideal length but he definitely has the overall strength to stand his ground and then shed the block to make a play.. Texans could be jerks and pick up Clowney for a ROLB and Donald in the 2nd to take Antonio Smith's spot down the line. They don't have a ton of needs and if they get even moderate play out of Keenum that would be an intimidating defense for years to come. It's scary thinking of a line that has to block Clowney, Donald AND Watt on nearly every dropback. Texans have some big holes. End isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Reynolds tackling was atrocious. His coverage was mostly covering the deep middle and when he was asked to play man to man he seemed a step late. His pick six was one of the only positive plays. This is your breakdown? Nevermind then. Lol, hyperbole and exxagerration don't make a game breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Reynolds tackling was atrocious. His coverage was mostly covering the deep middle and when he was asked to play man to man he seemed a step late. His pick six was one of the only positive plays. Texans have some big holes. End isn't one of them. Smith is 33 next year, coming off a sprained knee and a free agent. They were also 3rd to last in sacks. I'd say they have a bit of a hole there. This was a team whose talent isn't as bad as its record. I fully expect them to rebound in a big way next year even without a new qb, though I think Keenum was good enough to warrant a 2nd go at it. Healthy runningbacks, healthy Cushing, 2nd year for Hopkins and a revamped front 7 and they are right back to where they were 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToaCommander Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm sold on Morgan Moses as a 3rd - 4th round pick. Maybe is the Dane Brugler hyping him up but for a possible 4th round pick, he can contribute greatly to this team. Maybe Aaron Donald at 34th and Morgan Moses in 4th round. Or Zack Martin/Taylor Lewan at 34th and Justin Ellis in 4th or 5th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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