CISPA passed by congress - headed to senate

[757SeanTaylor21]

The US House of Representatives has passed the controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protect Act (CISPA).

Lawmakers in the House voted 288-to-127 Thursday afternoon to accept the bill. Next it will move to the Senate and could then end up on the desk of US President Barack Obama for him to potentially sign the bill into law. Earlier this week, though, senior White House advisers said they would recommend the president veto the bill.

Should CISPA earn the president’s autograph, private businesses will be encouraged to voluntarily share cyberthreat information with the US government. The authors of the bill say this is an effort to better combat the reportedly increasing attempts to harm America’s critical computer networks and pilfer the systems of private companies for intellectual property and other sensitive trade secrets.

http://rt.com/usa/congress-house-bill-cispa-031/

Gov't gonna have access to everything shortly, be able to do anything it wants while we can't do nothing. Thank God I'm not blind to what going on behind the scenes...

[skinfan2k]

You have no idea how much this is needed. This country's networks are not secure at all

[FanboyOf91]

Is this the cybersnitch law?

[Monte51Coleman]

Should CISPA earn the president’s autograph, private businesses will be encouraged to voluntarily share cyberthreat information with the US government. The authors of the bill say this is an effort to better combat the reportedly increasing attempts to harm America’s critical computer networks and pilfer the systems of private companies for intellectual property and other sensitive trade secrets.

This is clearly a horrible idea. :dunce:

[skinfan2k]

Do you know how much information is stolen from US companies every day from the Chinese and hackers?

[GoSkins561]

This is clearly a horrible idea. :dunce:

I guess we need to the government to do everything since they are already so good at everything?

[ixcuincle]

Have strong background in information security but Anonymous and other orgs are concerned that this is another SOPA deal

We do need security because the next war might not be fought by guns but rather online

We must be protected

[GoSkins561]

Have strong background in information security but Anonymous and other orgs are concerned that this is another SOPA deal

We do need security because the next war might not be fought by guns but rather online

We must be protected

But we need the government to make sure a private organizations networks are secure?

[ixcuincle]

Chinese hackers all over the place. They are really putting a strong effort into hacking. It's very interesting if you do the research. The NY Times and Mandiant have done copious amounts of investigation into a building that is known as "Unit 61398" which basically is a huge sky-rise dedicated to hacking (although the Chinese government denies that they even hack at all )

On one hand this helps secure America against the Chinese hackers, and they are a growing threat if you follow the industry. However there are also concerns about privacy.

Opinions divided on this one

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mandiant-report-fingers-chinese-military-us-hack-attacks/story?id=18537307#.UXMPF8ib-Zw

A Virginia-based cyber security firm has released a new report alleging a specific Chinese military unit is likely behind one of the largest cyber espionage and attack campaigns aimed at American infrastructure and corporations.

In the report, released today by Mandiant, China's Unit 61398 is blamed for stealing "hundreds of terabytes of data from at least 141 organizations" since 2006, including 115 targets in the U.S. Twenty different industrial sectors were targeted in the attacks, Mandiant said, from energy and aerospace to transportation and financial institutions.

Mandiant believes it has tracked Unit 61398 to a 12-story office building in Shanghai that could employ hundreds of workers.

[Monte51Coleman]

I guess we need to the government to do everything since they are already so good at everything?

Maybe you should read the quoted paragraph again.

[ixcuincle]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2035682/house-approves-cispa-over-privacy-objections.html

"Every day, international agents, terrorists and criminal organizations attack the public and private networks of the United States," he said. "While I do always have some concern that the U.S. government may access our private information in the cyber sphere, I am more concerned that the Chinese government will access our private information."

The House on Thursday voted for a handful of amendments to the bill intended to improve privacy protections in the bill. Lawmakers approved an amendment designating the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Department of Justice as the primary repositories of cybertheat information shared by private companies, addressing a concern by several privacy groups that CISPA would give the U.S. National Security Agency unfettered access to customer data.

Lawmakers also approved an amendment prohibiting companies that receive cyberthreat information from others from using the data for marketing purposes. The House also approved another amendment that strictly prohibits government agencies from using the shared data to conduct surveillance on U.S. residents.

[HeluCopter29]

But we need the government to make sure a private organizations networks are secure?

I don't think anyone needs the government to do anything. Nor is this going to make the government do anything. It's going to give the government the ability to help somewhere by investigating if the private corporation deems it necessary.

My question, is if I've already signed a contract with my ISP saying that they won't give out my information to anyone without my consent, am I grandfathered into this or would it mean my information can now be given away?

[skinfan2k]

My question, is if I've already signed a contract with my ISP saying that they won't give out my information to anyone without my consent, am I grandfathered into this or would it mean my information can now be given away?

are you performing cyber attacks from your home computer. If so, they can rat you out lol

[Destino]

Doesn't this law essentially allow the government to demand all information on anyone they choose from private companies it hour a warrant? No. All the talk of security isn't going to convince me either. Police powers are the most dangerous a government can be granted.

[Larry]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2035682/house-approves-cispa-over-privacy-objections.html

The House on Thursday voted for a handful of amendments to the bill intended to improve privacy protections in the bill. Lawmakers approved an amendment designating the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Department of Justice as the primary repositories of cybertheat information shared by private companies, addressing a concern by several privacy groups that CISPA would give the U.S. National Security Agency unfettered access to customer data.

Well, that sure makes me feel safer.

I mean, nothing tells me that this is being done to protect national security, as opposed to building a database which will be used every time law enforcement needs to Google somebody, like saying that the NSA doesn't have access to it, but the FBI does.

---------- Post added April-20th-2013 at 06:17 PM ----------

Doesn't this law essentially allow the government to demand all information on anyone they choose from private companies it hour a warrant? No. All the talk of security isn't going to convince me either. Police powers are the most dangerous a government can be granted.

Well, I think the descriptions I've seen, is that it allows the government to encourage private companies to give everything they have, to the government, in real time, just in case the government happens to want it.

[ixcuincle]

Oppose the bill if you want, but be aware that the Chinese are a growing threat online and they're stealing our ****.

[Prosperity]

Oppose the bill if you want, but be aware that the Chinese are a growing threat online and they're stealing our ****.

and how is this bill going to do anything about it?

[Corcaigh]

Oppose the bill if you want, but be aware that the Chinese are a growing threat online and they're stealing our ****.

Why does the bill include the ability to disclose to goernment agencies (without a warrant or notifying the individual) the online behavior of individuals within the USA? If the threat is Chinese hackers.

[skinfan2k]

Why does the bill include the ability to disclose to goernment agencies (without a warrant or notifying the individual) the online behavior of individauls within the USA? If the threat is Chinese hackers.

domestic hackers haha

[Corcaigh]

domestic hackers haha

Fair enough, if that's a threat they are concerned about. But don't focus on stories of secret high rises filled with hackers in foreign countries, if the bill is also about something else.

[Larry]

domestic hackers haha

Now how about explaining why the unspecified data doesn't go to the agency responsible for protecting our electronic national security, it goes to the agency responsible for enforcing the laws against downloading music, pornography, and online gambling.

[Destino]

Why does the bill include the ability to disclose to goernment agencies (without a warrant or notifying the individual) the online behavior of individuals within the USA? If the threat is Chinese hackers.

Because this isn't just about hackers. It's about police powers without oversight or accountability.

[Renegade7]

How can the government help anyone if no one tells them how they got hit? It's not mandatory in every case to tell everyone what happened, its about sharing information so we can work together as a community to stay on top of cyber security.

Really, the private sector needs to be held more accountable for protecting at least themselves and taking security seriously for their customers (ie. us). I'm looking more for the federal government to invest more in their own security and methods for catching people attacking it. I found the "co-operation" between the US and China on cybersecurity interesting to say the least, but lets not forgot American companies have been spying and stealing from each other for a while now.

We all have work and catching up to do, but I'm glad we have at least agree on that in congress.

[Springfield]

I don't know how I feel about this yet.

One side of me says it's a good idea because we need to find these types of people and stop them before they do bad things. The other side says that they will finally discover my vast trove of illegally downloaded music, movies and porn.

[Renegade7]

nm, double post