Cooleyfan1993 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Draft gets a total F ...We didn't address the following positions: TE, C, DE, NT, OLB, WR, S Compare that to the positions we addressed: QB, RB, OT, OG, CB, ILB and you see clearly we addressed less positions than there are positions. Therefore, we failed. uhhh i think we're pretty good for the TE position with Fred Davis and Chris Cooley, atleast for next season. same with WR. Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks. And hey, we got some offensive linemen that fit our scheme. are you seriously giving the draft an F, even after getting RG3..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Isn't that the same logic as assuming we WON'T somehow get a first rounder in a trade?Trade implies we give up something to get there.Backup QBs almost never get #1s in trade. People went ga-ga for Flynn and Kolb, and neither one of them was traded for a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 B- for me didn't like the 3rd round pick only because we could have gotten him later, other than that solid, but not great for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 B- to C+ in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 uhhh i think we're pretty good for the TE position with Fred Davis and Chris Cooley, atleast for next season. same with WR. Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks. And hey, we got some offensive linemen that fit our scheme. are you seriously giving the draft an F, even after getting RG3..? I kinda feel bad for you right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Getting three first round guys and a second rounder, instead of getting RG3 with the pick we traded for...... hard to measure up to.Any one of those 1st rounders, including this year's, might have given us a franchise QB, if we're talking just potential. My point is, the RG3 pick hurt this year losing the #2. But losing the next two #1 picks will hurt more. That's the price you pay for being able to get a great QB prospect. Would you rather have Grossman and Tannehill? I sure wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 uhhh i think we're pretty good for the TE position with Fred Davis and Chris Cooley, atleast for next season. same with WR. Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks. And hey, we got some offensive linemen that fit our scheme. are you seriously giving the draft an F, even after getting RG3..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 B- for medidn't like the 3rd round pick only because we could have gotten him later, other than that solid, but not great for the time being no, we couldn't have. reports were KC was taking him if we hadn't. RG3 makes the draft an automatic A, 3 OL who all fit ZBS reinforces that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 What is it without the Cousins pick? I would give them a C-. My grade would've been a helluva a lot better without that decision. IMO, sends the wrong message, especially where Cousins was taken and the amount of other people available on the board on that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 B- for medidn't like the 3rd round pick only because we could have gotten him later, other than that solid, but not great for the time being There are various reports out there that the Chiefs were targeting him so that's why we pulled the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Trade implies we give up something to get there.Backup QBs almost never get #1s in trade. People went ga-ga for Flynn and Kolb, and neither one of them was traded for a #1. Flynn was a former 7th rounder and was a free agent. Obviously the Packers won't get something for him. Kolb threw for more INTs than TDs and got a 2nd rounder and DRC. Cousins if he shows enough can pull in a first rounder the way this league is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olejoe Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Okay - so on a case by case basis who would have drafted instead that would have made your draft grade an "A"? Only RG3 seems to be a concensus "A" pick. Everyone else is graded by you all ES experts as "B" or lower. What would have made it a perfect "A" at each pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Hunter #21 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I'm not entirely sure why anyone would feel threatened by the Cousins pick. Yes, it was a pick that was very unexpected but I don't see how this has anything to do with a possible QB controversy. Everyone knows that RG3 is the guy and the thought of developing another QB to be his backup gives me a better feeling than having Grossman still in the fold long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It's funny how most of the players people are complaining that we didn't take and were "better players" than LeRib, or than Cousins...pretty much all, universally, fell in the draft. Boykin fell to the middle of the fourth. Minnifield wasn't drafted at all. Dennard fell, Antonio Allen didn't get touched, Zerbie fell, Massie fell, Miller fell. All this so-called talent that we just couldn't pass up when we "reached" for our guys, and pretty much all of them fell into the round AFTER we picked up our guys. So what people are essentially saying is, not only are the Redskins stupid for not drafting certain people where they were "supposed to be drafted", but pretty much every general manager and scouting department in the NFL are ALSO stupid for not drafting certain guys. Funny how that turned out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I think we covered a lot of holes in the draft; Crawford will be used as a cornerback & Bernstine will be used as a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Eh. People been complaining that we haven't drafted OL for over a decade. We draft 3 OL, they complain that we should have drafted DBs. Our last two picks are DBs , and they're still mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Eh. People been complaining that we haven't drafted OL for over a decade. We draft 3 OL, they complain that we should have drafted DBs. Our last two picks are DBs , and they're still mad. Because it isn't about not drafting a certain position; it's about not drafting who they want, where they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 That's the price you pay for being able to get a great QB prospect. Would you rather have Grossman and Tannehill? I sure wouldn't.It would be Tannehill, whoever we got in the second round (someone like Janoris Jenkins or a really good OL or LB). And a blue-chip player expected to start next draft, and another blue-chip player expected to start the year after that that, possibly a QB if Tannehill busts.I really hope RG3 works out, but if this was another team last in it's division that made this trade, (Oakland, Bucs, Jaguars) I wouldn't call it an automatic "A". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Belichick drafted Ryan Mallett. He was a guy projected to be a 1st round pick and the ESPN talking heads didn't question it at all when the Pats drafted him. It was immediately thought of as a "trade bait" pick, development, etc. The Skins immediately get questioned and attacked for the Cousins pick. ESPN & the NFLN couldn't wait to rip into the Skins. Mayock is the one that didn't have a problem with the pick. Cousins is insurance, is a leader, will develop here, and he will most likely be dealt down the road for picks. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/57913/competition-already-for-robert-griffin-iii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 RG3 alone makes it an A. Seriously though....I would give this draft an A simply because of our top pick. Highest franchise quarterback we have ever drafted, it's going to be fun. I didn't really dig the Cousins pick but If we get a third round pick or better back for him in a few years I guess it could be a success. I like the other guys we drafted, especially getting three offensive linemen but I won't pretend to really know much about any of them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKSkinsFan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 We had the balls to go after a once in a decade prospect, for that alone it's an A+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Eh. People been complaining that we haven't drafted OL for over a decade. We draft 3 OL, they complain that we should have drafted DBs. Our last two picks are DBs , and they're still mad. Sad but true. We draft a Tackle and people want a Guard. Draft a Center? Then we should have drafted a CB. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It would be Tannehill, whoever we got in the second round (someone like Janoris Jenkins or a really good OL or LB). And a blue-chip player expected to start next draft, and another blue-chip player expected to start the year after that that, possibly a QB if Tannehill busts.I really hope RG3 works out, but if this was another team last in it's division that made this trade, (Oakland, Bucs, Jaguars) I wouldn't call it an automatic "A". We still came out of this draft with, what...9 players? Those guys can't be really good players? Complaining about the RG3 trade at this point is dead and buried. He's already our player. We can't project the "shoulda, coulda, wouldas" and what-ifs. We can't retroactively go back and change it, nor can we know for sure that whatever theoretical players we would get with those picks, nor can we know whether or not they'd be more or less likely to make us better or worse. It's all sunk cost now. Only way to go is to move ward. And Mike wouldn't have touched Jenkins with a ten foot pole attached to a twenty foot pole attached to the the Seattle Space Needle laying out it's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 There are various reports out there that the Chiefs were targeting him so that's why we pulled the trigger. I've seen a couple people mention this. But how do we know? And more importantly how did the Redskins know? This implies that the Chiefs' draft room was bugged or there is a psychic on the Redskins staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I've seen a couple people mention this. But how do we know? And more importantly how did the Redskins know? This implies that the Chiefs' draft room was bugged or there is a psychic on the Redskins staff. Well Todd Haley said his office was bugged... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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