MattFancy Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah I am with you and if reports are London wants a Ray Lewis contract then that is a problem. 22.5 million over 3 years is not going to work here. Ray made the Ravens who they are as a franchise but London even though he is a good player but was not spectacular like Ray and did not bring a Super Bowl to the Skins like Ray and the Ravens defense in the early 2000's Yup. Our defense is solid, but its not like we've had a dominate defense while Fletch has been here. I'm all for re-signing him, just at a reasonable price. If he was 32-33, then yeah give him a 3yr deal. But at age 36, how many players are still as good at that age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Um, what? He's not as flashy as Ray but he's still just as productive. HM21, respect you dude, but I stand by what I said. I think what I listed in my previous email is more than fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 HM21, respect you dude, but I stand by what I said. I think what I listed in my previous email is more than fair. Back at you, RWJ. Guess we'll just agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryGreenMonk Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 HM21, respect you dude, but I stand by what I said. I think what I listed in my previous email is more than fair. Fletchers numbers across the board entire career wise are very similar to Ray's. Tackles, FF's, and INT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Back at you, RWJ. Guess we'll just agree to disagree That cool dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 it's almost insulting that this guy isn't resigned yet Agreed. This man is a leader.. Age does not define Fletch - his play does. His tank is full - RE SIGN HIM! It is so refreshing to have a player like him on the team I love - his play does his talking... He brings the play up of those around him RE SIGN HIM! *but not for Ray Ray money... come on man. I gotta think the Skins will offer him the best deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 3 years, $24 million. I see nothing wrong with that. We've got loads of cap space, and this is a player who, if anything, was underpaid for what he's brought to this organization over the last several years. We need to make Fletcher a Redskin for life, well into a post-career to boot. Simply put, he's almost invaluable for this team. And we should be rewarding loyalty, because he could quite easily leave us behind and join up with a contender... I hear the Eagles are in the market for a premier middle linebacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big z Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 3yrs 18 million. It's easy when it's not my money! Resign him Bruce! It's not your money either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horton_Predator48 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It looks like the FO is taking the approach of letting guys see what they can get in the open market and try to match it. I think it's fair to see what other teams would pay for London as a starting point. That way both London and the FO know what his real value is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It looks like the FO is taking the approach of letting guys see what they can get in the open market and try to match it. I think it's fair to see what other teams would pay for London as a starting point. That way both London and the FO know what his real value is. Doesn't Fletcher have more value to a team like the Eagles, who feel like they're only a couple pieces away on defense from winning a superbowl? With no hole bigger than MLB, no free agent potentially more valuable than Fletcher. Tackling machine -- enormously essential in their Dline scheme, with Fletcher's favorite 4-3 defense -- and leader of leaders in a lockerroom that sorely needs one. I feel that if we let Fletch hit free agency, he won't be coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I feel that if we let Fletch hit free agency, he won't be coming back I'm nervous about that too. Fletch is the one player I'd be willing to overpay to keep here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskins Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yup. Our defense is solid, but its not like we've had a dominate defense while Fletch has been here. I'm all for re-signing him, just at a reasonable price. If he was 32-33, then yeah give him a 3yr deal. But at age 36, how many players are still as good at that age? I fully agree. Fletch is a good player who has gave it his all while here, but he is just not quite worth top dollar. I love him and would hate for him to leave, but he needs to be realistic too. He is realistically look at 1-2 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins3000 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Um, what? He's not as flashy as Ray but he's still just as productive. No Ray received one of those Peyton Manning deals simply because Ray has been the face of the franchise since the franchise existence. London is good but has not been here his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Led the NFL in tackles, I'd say he's earned 3 year/22 mill. Age isn't as much of a concern given production and his regimen he uses to stay in shape. We have 12 days still. When we're 4 or less days and a deal hasn't still been reached, then I'll worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 This is going to be interesing, since BOTH the organization and Fletch have leverage: -Fletch has leverage because the pickings are slim on ILB in both the draft and FA, which will naturally drive up the cost retain him.. Plus the skins don't have anyone to take over from a leadership stand point at that position. -The organization has leverage because, though Fletcher is the heart and soul of the Redskins D, he's also 37 years old. So the thinking would be "who is in dire need for a MLB to fork up a 3yr, $25 mill contract"? If he tests FA, i don't see a team desperate enough to committ that amount of money (Ray Lewis $$) for his services.. Thus he may be coming back with his tail btwn his legs.. We shall see............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 sorry we need to get a replacement if he is asking for a 3 yr deal at his age. I rather have someone who is a better fit in the 3-4 than London. Perry Riley is a beast and can take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If he tests FA, i don't see a team desperate enough to committ that amount of money (Ray Lewis $$) for his services.. Thus he may be coming back with his tail btwn his legs.. Eagles! ---------- Post added February-29th-2012 at 03:15 PM ---------- sorry we need to get a replacement if he is asking for a 3 yr deal at his age. I rather have someone who is a better fit in the 3-4 than London. Perry Riley is a beast and can take over. London lead the league in tackles -- yet he's not a good fit in the 3-4!?!? Perry Riley is already starting. Outside of Fletcher and Riley, we don't have any other inside linebackers even remotely capable of starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Eagles!---------- Post added February-29th-2012 at 03:15 PM ---------- you're absolutely right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Eagles!---------- Post added February-29th-2012 at 03:15 PM ---------- London lead the league in tackles -- yet he's not a good fit in the 3-4!?!? Perry Riley is already starting. Outside of Fletcher and Riley, we don't have any other inside linebackers even remotely capable of starting Hes a great run-stuffing LB but he is horrible in coverage. Riley is the only one that is good at it. With Kerrigan and Orakpo not good at pass coverage, we need another another pass covering LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If the 'skins do not re-sign Fletcher, I think I know somebody else who would be interested in his services. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Hes a great run-stuffing LB but he is horrible in coverage. Riley is the only one that is good at it. With Kerrigan and Orakpo not good at pass coverage, we need another another pass covering LB. Sorry skinfan, but you're wrong about that. 3 interceptions and 19 passes defended over the past two years for Fletcher. 0 interceptions and 4 passes defended over the past two years for Riley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Fletch will re sign, just a matter of contract language at this point Im sure. One thing our new GM is good at is contracts and I am sure Fletcher like most players thinks he can play forever, he just needs to let the Skins protect themselves if he can't. Fletch seems like a guy who will be invited back when his playing days are over to become a heck of a D coordinator, lets just hope Allen gets a deal done quickly and Fletchers agent doesn't get in the way of what could be a good fit for a post career. Who represents Fletch anyway? Is he with one of the big time sports agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The more I think about it the more I'd be open to him leaving. Time for new leaders to emerge and we have to be smart, and non sentimental in making contract decisions. There are decent younger alternatives out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibbidoe Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 We'd sure as hell better re-sign Fletcher. We have the cap space, we have a guy who's earned a good payday. PAY THE MAN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Who represents Fletch anyway? Is he with one of the big time sports agents? The same guy who represents RG3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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