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Rex is the second coming of Billy Kilmer


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Billy was a game manager, nothing more. George Allen emphasized defense and special teams. He asked his offense to play ball control and not lose the game for him with turnovers.

Mike Shanahan has a completely different approach. He needs a QB who can run the boot and attack all over the field.

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Never saw Kilmer play except for highlights. Question: if Kilmer were a young man today and the same type of QB he was, would he be universally accepted as our QB?

Not in a million years lol...and it has nothing to do with Kilmer.

It's actually not an unreasonable comparison, though I'd say Kilmer was much better at protecting the ball, and Grossman can throw it further.

Kilmer had an unreal supporting cast.

Kilmer's INT percentage: 4.9%

Grossman's INT percentage: 3.6%

---------- Post added October-14th-2011 at 03:46 AM ----------

Seems appropriate for this thread lol...

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Comparing QB stats from that era to now is just stupid. The game has changed. It used to be that 50% completion percentage was just fine. Go back and look at Joe Namath's numbers. That said, Rex actually throws a much better spiral than Kilmer. Thats where the comparison between the two ends at this point.

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Comparing QB stats from that era to now is just stupid. The game has changed. It used to be that 50% completion percentage was just fine. Go back and look at Joe Namath's numbers. That said, Rex actually throws a much better spiral than Kilmer. Thats where the comparison between the two ends at this point.

Yep, a big difference was that screens and draws were used to keep the pass rush honest while short passes were used to keep the defensive backs honest or in desperation when you couldn't deal with the pass rush. Now, the deep threat is used to keep the DBs from taking away the all important short game while screens are used as much to get RBs out in space the way sweeps were used back then.

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Kilmer knew how to run an offense that didn't make mistakes and turn the ball over. Grossman is still littering the field with too many fumbles and interceptions.

Kilmer's INT percentage: 4.9%

Grossman's INT percentage: 3.6%

I'm amazed at how many Skins fans continue to claim that Kilmer didn't turn the ball over but that Grossman does it all the time.

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In what possible way? :ols:

Billy Kilmer played all but one year of his career BEFORE 1978 when the NFL chose to turn QBs into Point Guards. Much of this was a time when beating up offensive linemen was pretty much legal, offensive holding was still illegal and this was how you covered (see especially, about 22 seconds in).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffSTUKhIAqk

Further, he played at a time before QBs were given tutus. They often had to continue passing even though they were seeing double, had their shoulders half torn off or worse.

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Billy Kilmer played all but one year of his career BEFORE 1978 when the NFL chose to turn QBs into Point Guards. Much of this was a time when beating up offensive linemen was pretty much legal, offensive holding was still illegal and this was how you covered (see especially, about 22 seconds in).

Further, he played at a time before QBs were given tutus. They often had to continue passing even though they were seeing double, had their shoulders half torn off or worse.

You are on very shaky ground when you start to claim you know how many of Kilmer's INTs were due to the rules back then and how many INTs were due to his making a crappy throw or bad decision. Even in the video I provided on the 2nd page, they show Kilmer throwing a pick-6 that was due to nothing more than it being a poor throw on a bad decision.

And even allowing for the different era, Kilmer's INT% still wasn't good...he regularly ranked in the bottom half or bottom 10 of QBs in terms of INT percentage. He had two years with the Skins were his INT % was better than normal...but that was also when he was paired with a league MVP running back, a HOF wide receiver and a HOF head coach.

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