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per Rick Maese twitter - Depth Chart updates **UPDATED** D depth on post 48

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sportjunkie07

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so, this year:

LDE: Carriker, Golston

NT: Coefield, Neild

RDE: Bowen, Scott

LOLB: Kerrigan, Alexander

ILB: Fletcher, Fox

ILB: Macintosh, Riley

ROLB: Orakpo, Jackson

LCB: Hall, Barnes

RCB: Wilson, Westbrook, Thompson

SS: Landry, Doughty

FS: Atogwe, Gomes, Doughty

last year (roughly):

LDE: Holliday, Carriker

NT: Haynesworth, Kemo, Bryant

RDE: Golston, Daniels

LOLB: Carter, Alexander

ILB: Fletcher, Blades

ILB: Macintosh, Riley

ROLB: Orakpo, Jackson

LCB: Hall, Buchanon

RCB: Rogers, Westbrook

SS: Landry, Barnes

FS: Doughty, Haris

what a difference a year makes! significant improvement in starters and depth

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I honestly dont think LL is much better then Reed in coverage. He is better close to the line due to his natural speed advantage. But in coverage he was found wanting when he was our FS. LL wont be in game shape expect to see Reed a fair amount at SS. Which is a spot he is a decent player.

Reed at FS is a worry but i have no issues with him being on the field as a SS.

I would agree with this. This team in recent years has had an unfortunate propensity to use players in positions or roles that aren't ideal. And sometimes, it's out of necessity. But then as a fanbase, we get on the player for not excelling in roles they have no business being in. Playing people out of position seemed to be what this team was all about for a while.

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Hitman21ST

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Probably shouldn't be. Really, he probably didn't even earn being on the roster, let alone active on game days. Maybe as the season progresses and he starts improving in practice he might get a shot. But I think those other guys are rightfully in front of him at this stage.

Just what did Niles Paul do to earn being in front of him?

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I would agree with this. This team in recent years has had an unfortunate propensity to use players in positions or roles that aren't ideal. And sometimes, it's out of necessity. But then as a fanbase, we get on the player for not excelling in roles they have no business being in. Playing people out of position seemed to be what this team was all about for a while.

no longer the case man.. as people said, the coaches needed at least a year to weed out the players that werent fit for the system and draft ones that were. considering our team depth and roster last year, and few picks in the draft, the coaches have done a great job in that regard.

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Hitman21ST

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I honestly dont think LL is much better then Reed in coverage. He is better close to the line due to his natural speed advantage. But in coverage he was found wanting when he was our FS. LL wont be in game shape expect to see Reed a fair amount at SS. Which is a spot he is a decent player.

Did you completely forget his rookie season when he took over after 21 passed away?

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sportjunkie07

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I'm nervous about the secondary, Reed Doughty in particular.

Reed's a a great guy, hard working, shows lots of heart...he just can't cover.

i think your concerns are well merited, we cant just expect Landry to ball out of the gate or stay healthy the whole season. but im comfy with doughty at SS and atogwe at FS. thats still one of the better safety combinations in the division.

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Agreed if we are talking about Landry having a boo-boo. But, with his achilles tendon and hamstring, Skins could easily wind up losing him for a good part of the season if he's rushed back too soon. I expect to see Doughty at SS against the Giants and I'm not worried about it. Skins D coaches may need to tweak things a bit to make sure he's not exposed too much with FS duties. The great thing about having Landry on the field is that opponents don't always know which safety will be mostly playing short/deep or run defense. But, Skins will be okay without him for a few games if really necessary to have him playing for the entire season. Note: he's not in game shape which is the main reason he pulled his hammy so soon after trying to practice.

You bring up another good point. Landry is the better of our 2 starting safeties, but I actually think we're worse off if we lose Atogwe because Doughty is a serviceable starter at SS but he is not a FS and gets burned a lot back there. The dropoff from Landry to Doughty is big, but you're right, I don't feel too worried if Doughty has to fill in a for a game or two at SS until Landry is truly healthy. That's a much more friendly scenario then Landry rushing back and reinjuring either his achilles or hamstring. The difference in our defense when Landry is healthy and in there is incredible, but I, like you, would rather wait on him until he's completely healthy. But if I had my choice of which player I would rather have healthy between Cooley and Landry, the answer is fairly obvious not only because Landry is the better player but also because of who their backups are.

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TheShredder

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I am excited about Austin I think he is poised for a very productive season. Suddenly with Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong and Austen, some good option are available. We need Hankerson to step up and be that big possession guy IMO

FYI, Gaffney is pretty much the same size as Hankerson. Gaffney is 6'2" 200lbs and Hankerson is 6'1.5" 209lbs. Gaffney is our big possession receiver. Hankerson is in training.

Moss is the slot guru this year. Armstrong and Austin are deep threats. I think people have our WR's mixed up a bit. Hankerson is the guy you want to go up high (36" or 3 foot vertical) and grab the ball (10.5" hands) deep down field. He's sure to run the fade and they will look for one on one match ups.

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Definetly don't agree with Cooley as the number 1. Obvious reasons: he's coming off an injury, has not played one snap, He's not in GAME shape and Davis and Paulson are. they have taken the majority of the snaps and are in good game shape. He should earn it back from those guys who have particpated in preseason. I see Torain is number 3 on the depth chart......

Ok didn't take long to read a post here that makes no sense to me

First off anyone thinking like this that Logan Paulsen deserves to be in front of CC on a depth chart has been watching too much preseason

Guys it's CC, he's not a rookie that needs camp to learn this offense

Who cares he hasn't practiced...he was the #2 receiving TE in the league last year

Seriously give CC some credit, LP and FD sure as hell are NOT the pass catcher that CC is,

And as long as CC is here he is our version of Jason Witten and is the best option we have this year and every year

As long as he passes Coach Shanahan's eye test he is good to go

Really makes me sick to see posts like this disrespecting one of our very best players after he's put in years of service for us. Give the hate a rest

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Hitman21ST

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caught all the catchable passes thrown his way, ran decent routes and seemed to always be open, td saving tackle, good special teams performance, balled in practice, etc..

All four of his receptions. Got it. From what I could see Hank's routes were just as good as Paul's.

Don't get me wrong, I love that Paul made the roster, and he deserves to be higher on the Special Teams depth chart, but I didn't see anything from him on the receiving end that would scream out that he's better than Hank there.

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Don't presume for me, Totally different situation. Really surprised as a Redskin fan you compare the two? Number one Fred Davis is more than capable to run as the first line TE. He faster and stronger than Cooley like it or not, Reed does not come close to Landry. Landry has not practice and has been on the PUP list till recently but if he is not ready he shouldn't play as he stated himself. The Coach will play the best available which apparently is your beloved (sarcasm) Reed.

And if this was true then how come he has never seperated himself from CC and shown that when they are both healthy he can perform better then CC?

Is there some "conspiracy" holding FD back in your mind because in his time being here FD has never ever pushed CC for playing time or targets ever

And I think it's because FD isn't half the TE that CC is, and thinking FD is the better option is just silly

If FD the second round pick can't beat out CC the third round pick when he is younger faster and stronger as you say he is why have none of the coaches ever felt the same way?

This is just forum spin with no truth behind it. Coach has had competition at every position and believe if he thought as highly about FD as you seem to

He would be handling this situation different but he's not, CC is the best option we have and the true #1

Unless you know of some reason why FD has been "held back" you would like to share with us???

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All four of his receptions. Got it. From what I could see Hank's routes were just as good as Paul's.

Don't get me wrong, I love that Paul made the roster, and he deserves to be higher on the Special Teams depth chart, but I didn't see anything from him on the receiving end that would scream out that he's better than Hank there.

I think a lot of that was on the practice field. I kept hearing about Paul doing great in practice. I also kept hearing about Hankerson's dropsies. I didn't see any of it myself, so I can't say for sure.

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All four of his receptions. Got it. From what I could see Hank's routes were just as good as Paul's.

Don't get me wrong, I love that Paul made the roster, and he deserves to be higher on the Special Teams depth chart, but I didn't see anything from him on the receiving end that would scream out that he's better than Hank there.

of our receivers, Paul was most negatively affected by our qb play this preseason. it's something that wasnt very noticeable during gameday, but i suppose the coaches saw it as well when reviewing tape.

for instance, he had one easy TD that was overthrown, and a good slant for a first down that was tipped at the line.

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So what do we think happens with Buchanon after week 4? Then what to do with Moore when he is ready to come off the PUP?

trial by fire for westbrook, gomes, and thompson. whichever is doing the worst gets cut imo.. im not sure why moore was kept in the first place, i dont see him lasting long unless gomes fails miserably with any playing time he gets.

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1972FAN

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:ols:

I don't know whats funnier, the fact that you went straight for my fancard, or that you assumed i'm in love with #37 over #30. Maybe you should do some post history research before trying to make either one of those statements, because they both make you look foolish. The reason I make the presumption is because like some on here you were quick to point out your unhappines with the 47/86 situation while glossing over the exact same scenario going on between 30/37, and then try and justify it with some bull**** excuse. I don't have time to get into the whole 47/86 debate again this morning, I already went through that yesterday morning in the "trade cooley" thread. As far as 30/37 go, if you truly believe that a 100% healthy #37 in the SS position is more of a liability on the field against the giants, then a not healthy, not having played/barely practiced all preseason #30, then our conversation probably ends here with an agreement to disagree, because there's no way in hell i'm buying that. If we we're talking about the FS position, i'd agree with you. If we're talking about #30 not being 100% healthy but having played/practiced, then i'd agree with you. But I don't agree with you on the present situation, not as it stands now.

didn't read your post don't have time for insignificant people and your boring me.

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